Do you wipe off the handle of your shopping cart?

[eastofeden]

For the people who think it is nonsense or silly....

http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cart.asp

 

[xbuzzerx]

Asking that standards have rational bases, not arbitrary bases, isn't insisting on a black and white world. It's suggesting that our standards ought to be enacted for reasons. I would think those reasons ought also be good reasons. I find the idea that our notions of what is dangerous should be decided merely by personal fiat quite bizarre.

I don't enjoy living in a safety-obsessed society...so yes, my quality of life is diminished by other peoples' weird behaviors. I imagine other people might not enjoy living in a post-enlightenment society, or a sexist society, or an impoverished one, and they ought to speak their minds about the state of things, too.

Since carts are handled by countless unwashed hands and do carry germs there is neither "no reason" nor "no good reason" for cleaning them before use.

So your point seems a bit shot in the foot.

 

[Stardreamer]

I don't think anyone will deny that shopping carts or any shared publicly used surface doesn't have germs on it. Its the need some folks feel to try and sanitize everything they touch that puzzles me. Its an impossibility for one thing and I think in the long run counter productive except in certain cases.

 

[zoltanspawn]

For the people who think it is nonsense or silly....

http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cart.asp

You do realize that this article is an advertisement for Clorox and related products, right?

 

[xbuzzerx]

You do realize that this article is an advertisement for Clorox and related products, right?

You don't know what Snopes is?

No, it is not an advertising arm of chlorox.

 

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thankyou

 

[zoltanspawn]

Since carts are handled by countless unwashed hands and do carry germs there is neither "no reason" nor "no good reason" for cleaning them before use.

What I think you mean to say is, you believe there is "no reason" nor "no good reason" for NOT cleaning them before use, no?

In any case, I don't agree. An irrational "reason" for cleaning carts is dumb; and I'm unaware of any rational reason. "Lots of germs" doesn't convince me.

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You don't know what Snopes is?

No, it is not an advertising arm of chlorox.

I refer to the article in question.

 

[ronboy]

Nope. But I do keep small container of hand sanitizer in my car to use after shopping....

 

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thankyou

 

[blackbeltninja]

Many people in office environments do exactly that if they know their coworkers are sick. At a grocery store you have no idea who touched the cart or what they had.

Meh.

You have to die from something.



-d-

 

[blackbeltninja]

I make it point NOT to do most of those things and can say the same thing.

Likewise.

-d-

 

[blackbeltninja]

It is so silly to sanitize the shopping cart handle and then go into the store and touch any number of items from all over - after they have been touched by others.

Exactly.

If you aren't wiping your hands after placing each item in your shopping cart - who knows what manner of typhoid has come off the filthy shelf-packer, or the even filthier guy who packed the pallet which the shelf-packer then unpacked - you're really wasting your time with the handle of the trolley.

Of course you should be bleaching your computer keyboard and your cell-phone daily, both of which undoubtedly contain more germs than the plastic shopping cart handle, and you should pretty much burn your kitchen cloths straight after use if you are serious about hygiene.

Yeah, I have three degrees in microbiology, so I actually know what I'm talking about...

-d-

 

[xbuzzerx]

What I think you mean to say is, you believe there is "no reason" nor "no good reason" for NOT cleaning them before use, no?

In any case, I don't agree. An irrational "reason" for cleaning carts is dumb; and I'm unaware of any rational reason. "Lots of germs" doesn't convince me.

By that same logic there is no "rational" reason for people preparing your food to clean their hands after wiping their ass. "Lots of germs" doesn't convince you.

You can say you don't give a shit about contamination or germs but you what you can't do is posture this position as rational and everyone else's as irrational.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Meh.

You have to die from something.



-d-

It's not an irrational fear of death. It's not wanting to come to work sick for a week or two over something that was very easily avoidable. Yes, if someone sick sneezes in my face there is not a lot I can do about it. I can do something about touching a surface that has been known to have fecal matter and e-coli bacteria on it. It takes exactly 0.5 seconds for me to do with the free sanitizing towel provided for free at the entrance to the grocery store and what I find irrational in this thread is people who get a bug up their ass about anyone's voluntary decision to do the same.

 

[Alnitak]

Nope. But I do keep small container of hand sanitizer in my car to use after shopping....

Won't do much good against viruses.

 

[zoltanspawn]

By that same logic there is no "rational" reason for people preparing your food to clean their hands after wiping their ass. "Lots of germs" doesn't convince you.

The reason food sanitation scientists provide for washing hands after using the restroom and before preparing food isn't that people's hands have "lots of germs!" on them after wiping their ass. It gets more detailed than that, as it should.

 

[zoltanspawn]

Yeah, I have three degrees in microbiology, so I actually know what I'm talking about...

-d-

People seem to think, reasons schmeasons.

 

[xbuzzerx]

The reason food sanitation scientists provide for washing hands after using the restroom and before preparing food isn't that people's hands have "lots of germs!" on them after wiping their ass. It gets more detailed than that, as it should.

The difference between that and touching fecal matter on a handlebar and lifting some fruit or produce is...?

Oh right. Reason shmeasons.

 

[zoltanspawn]

The difference between that and touching fecal matter on a handlebar and lifting some fruit or produce is...?

Oh right. Reason shmeasons.

No reasons you can think of?

After using the restroom and before preparing food: a) provides a direct line of transmission b) sustains bacteria via human temperature and moisture c) provides for concentrations of bacteria (in the form of smears and lumps, e.g.) that help transmit disease d) follows evidence that feces in food causes salmonella typhoid, shigellosis, hepatitis and bad e. coli ....so on and so forth.

Before touching a shopping cart handle: ?

I don't think the vague worry that some surfaces have "lots of germs" is comparable.

 

[cgymike]

Exactly.

If you aren't wiping your hands after placing each item in your shopping cart - who knows what manner of typhoid has come off the filthy shelf-packer, or the even filthier guy who packed the pallet which the shelf-packer then unpacked - you're really wasting your time with the handle of the trolley.

Of course you should be bleaching your computer keyboard and your cell-phone daily, both of which undoubtedly contain more germs than the plastic shopping cart handle, and you should pretty much burn your kitchen cloths straight after use if you are serious about hygiene.

Yeah, I have three degrees in microbiology, so I actually know what I'm talking about...

-d-

Thanks ...I disininfected all that...and my hands free kit as well. Clearly there is a benefit in not getting ill!