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Does a guy's sexual history matter when dating? Should it?

^So you don't believe he, I don't know, got tested to be sure?

That brings up an interesting question of "how common is comprehensive testing." I really don't know. I get the whole suite tested for in between boyfriends, just to be sure. But I get the impression a lot of people just get HIV tests.
 
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That brings up an interesting question of "how common is comprehensive testing." I really don't know. I get the whole suite tested for in between boyfriends, just to be sure. But I get the impression a lot of people just get HIV tests.

I have had them all at different times as part of the comprehensive physical exams...all negative....

I don't know what I would do if I was single now....
 
Too some extent, for example, I would stop dating someone if I knew they were into scat in some point of their sexual lifes.
 
I have a long sex history, and I would not be surprised if my sex partner has one too.

It does not bother me, be it a one night stand or a date. Neither would it bother me if that person becomes my partner. In as much as I would have my partner accept me and my sex history, I would similarly accept my partner's sex history. I would be a hypocrite if I do not.
 
I don't think I'd be bothered by someone who's had a lot of sex partners. It's simply someone who has enjoyed the physical/sexual pleasures afforded them.

The guy that has had a string of "boyfriends" on the other hand, would send me running for the door. Guys who constantly need to have someone are emotional baggage and sex is just a hook.
 
To Matt's and Paul's responses, that brings to the fore the question of behavior and disease, and we live in a society that has been focused on venereal disease long before the advent of AIDS in the West.

Couples, and dating implies couples to some degree, have always dealt with the gamut of pairings, from monogamy to open relationships. And, there have always been people who presented as monogamous but didn't live that way. Sometimes those were men who had long-running monogamous affairs on the side, and others with more of a herd sexual pattern. Of course, either could be the vector of infection to his partner at home. That has always been true, but it changed when AIDS became a possible "gift" to the partner. To be sure, other VD had been fatal in the past, but not as certainly as AIDS was before the drugs.

On an asexual line of thinking, a wife today could be taking her children to the park, to the store, to the daycare, and by natural course exposing them to mutated flus, the incurable version of TB, or worse, but society doesn't view her behaviors as being avoidable risks that expose her partner to contagion, possible lethal. The risk just seems low and "normal."

Would we view the promiscuous sex behaviors as irrelevant if we were living in pre-AIDS society? I really don't think so, even though there was an era of more active exploration between the 60's and the 80's in much of the West. Society, including religion, is responsible for the norms and mores of pair bonding, but not exclusively. But, at a deeper level, biology and evolution have promoted pair bonding in humans. A species with offspring who take fourteen or more years to come to develop secondary sexual characteristics requires more than one adult to be a nurturerer. Society today illustrates the point even better with the higher single parenthood rate. Sometimes those divorced or unmarried models have stepped up to try to compensate, but more often, they have simply failed the children.

It is not exceptional nor even Puritanical that children grow to adulthood and still retain the instinct for exclusive pair bonding. It isn't universal, nor is it necessarily accompanied by a morale code, but it remains part of the biological imperative, not matter how many studies only consider the sex drive.

Perhaps homosexual preferences DO vary significantly from the heterosexual population due to the much higher lack of bonding that has a goal of procreating offspring. It will be interesting to see data over the coming decades to see if that is true and if there will come changes with the increase in gay-marriage-tolerant societies.

And I think EastofEden's comments about monogamous expectations being tantamount to owning one's partner are challenging for most ears. Theoretically, one falls in love because one has needs. One needs to love and to be loved. EastofEden, as other posters, has reminded us again that needing sex and needing love are different. Granted many people do not separate the two. As I ponder his argument, I keep returning to the question of whether his experience is typical and whether it matters to a potential partner. Assuming testing is trusted and the inbound partner has allayed the concern about VDs, the question comes down to expectations of the bonding, which again returns to the OPs question and to Derek's response. It matters for whom it matters, but the why is more complicated than merely the need to "own" one's partner. For most, the partnering, if long-term, carries with it an expectation of the pairing being more important and therefore being reliable and enduring. Few seem to be able to carry off the polyamorous model with that stability.

Society is evolving to make room for more variations, but it remains to be proven that they will largely supplant the monogamous models that societies have maintained for many centuries and longer.

To me it's brutally simple:

  • I don't want to fuck random people who are bad at sex.
  • I want anyone I fuck to be good at sex...good enough to want it again and again.
  • I want them to also be the sort of person I'd like to hang out with to go to movies with, go on holiday with, eat dinner with, spend a life with. Call me greedy. I'm better off with someone I can do all those things with than someone who is merely a good lay.
  • when you have that, you really don't care about all the strangers you're not fucking.
  • when you're even just looking for that, it focusses the mind.

And on the question of disease:
Who does anyone seriously think gets sexually transmitted diseases:
  • People with low mileage looking for monogamy.
  • People having random sexual encounters with strangers.

It's like some people think getting an STD has more to do with luck than choice.

So I'd add one more to the first list:
  • I don't want to meet someone who blows my mind, head over heels in love, and say "Listen, about this disease I caught from fucking someone whose name I don't even know on some weekend I can barely remember, for an orgasm that was really, truly, incredibly, mind-blowingly okay.."
To me it's just way easier not to fuck that random source of contagion in the first place.
 
Quite simply put, I can't change his past. I can't change my past. So if I wanted something of a relationship with him, I would just have to get past his past.

That said, our relationship would be monogamous. So if was hoping to settle down with me and play on the side because that's what he's used to, well then he's barking up the wrong tree. But that's a different matter entirely.

-d-
 
And on the question of disease:
Who does anyone seriously think gets sexually transmitted diseases:
  • People with low mileage looking for monogamy.
  • People having random sexual encounters with strangers.

To be fair and pick nits, any number of people have caught a disease in a supposedly monogamous relationship from a turned-out-to-be-non-monogamous-after-all partner.

If we've learned anything it's that STDs are very much equal-opportunity things.

-d-
 
^True in SA where hygiene is an afterthought. The rest of the civilised world take this issue rather more seriously.
 
To me it's brutally simple:

  • I don't want to fuck random people who are bad at sex.
  • I want anyone I fuck to be good at sex...good enough to want it again and again.
  • I want them to also be the sort of person I'd like to hang out with to go to movies with, go on holiday with, eat dinner with, spend a life with. Call me greedy. I'm better off with someone I can do all those things with than someone who is merely a good lay.
  • when you have that, you really don't care about all the strangers you're not fucking.
  • when you're even just looking for that, it focusses the mind.

And on the question of disease:
Who does anyone seriously think gets sexually transmitted diseases:
  • People with low mileage looking for monogamy.
  • People having random sexual encounters with strangers.

It's like some people think getting an STD has more to do with luck than choice.

So I'd add one more to the first list:
  • I don't want to meet someone who blows my mind, head over heels in love, and say "Listen, about this disease I caught from fucking someone whose name I don't even know on some weekend I can barely remember, for an orgasm that was really, truly, incredibly, mind-blowingly okay.."
To me it's just way easier not to fuck that random source of contagion in the first place.

I need a second to let the elitism and slut-shaming waft over me. Hope the dizziness ends soon too...
 
There's a difference between a guy with a past and a guy that hasn't moved on from his past.

Agreed with this.

It doesn't matter to me if a guy slept around before he got into a relationship with me and that doesn't affect the relationship at all. I don't assume that it will unless it is shown to me that it would hinder our relationship.
 
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To be fair and pick nits, any number of people have caught a disease in a supposedly monogamous relationship from a turned-out-to-be-non-monogamous-after-all partner.

If we've learned anything it's that STDs are very much equal-opportunity things.

-d-


To pick nits. I think a permethrin-based lotion would be easier, wouldn't it?(!)

Any number of people have caught a disease in a supposedly monogamous relationship, from someone behaving exactly in the way I'm critical of.

And equal opportunity? Equal? Like mathematically, statistically equal? That I'm not over in the health forum asking about a strange blister on my arse or a funny smell coming from the end of my cock has some connection to me not blowing strangers in the bushes and getting fucked by strangers in the back room of the club.
 
To pick nits. I think a permethrin-based lotion would be easier, wouldn't it?(!)

Any number of people have caught a disease in a supposedly monogamous relationship, from someone behaving exactly in the way I'm critical of.

And equal opportunity? Equal? Like mathematically, statistically equal? That I'm not over in the health forum asking about a strange blister on my arse or a funny smell coming from the end of my cock has some connection to me not blowing strangers in the bushes and getting fucked by strangers in the back room of the club.

WOW...you are actually worse than I thought you were already.....
 
I need a second to let the elitism and slut-shaming waft over me. Hope the dizziness ends soon too...

Noooo! Not slut shaming! Slut education!

And it's not elitist at all! Anyone can apply these simple techniques. You don't need a trust fund or family connections.
 
You can choose to have sex with a million partners or you can choose to have sex with one partner a million times. I choose the latter. If that makes me elitist, then I own it. Those you charge slut shaming are usually the first to try to shame those who choose not to live as they do, as if their sex lives are somehow superior to those who choose differently.
 
Sexual promiscuity often has roots where people have little of no self esteem due to circumstances beyond their control...and many were molested or raped or abused and believe it is their fault..that they did something wrong to deserve it

The slut shamers drive it home..again and again and again.....

Everytime I read one of you (and thankfully there are only a few..but always the same ones)...I think about all my friends that died...and how many more people who have HIV and read you...and how you would blame them instead of the disease...and I am so glad I didn't know you or anyone like you in my life.
 
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