Doesn't it seem like society favors women....

[Jersey Domino]

More than men?

 

[treanir]

I'll bite: why do you say that?


And now I'm going to hide out in my bomb shelter. Anyone want to join me?

 

[kevbo]

favors? no

objectifies? yes

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

More than men?

No. The other way 'round, but men are losing ground.
Not to women per se, but to the government, housing speculation and the job-market.

 

[Txgoodoldboy]

Pussy rules the world. Not directly, but the dictator behind the man.

 

[CudDULL]

Yes women and men are seen differently in society. To an extent women are favored over men and vice versa in different situations. But I do think women have the overall advantage outside of the workforce.

 

[G-Lexington]

Well, if you find society to be favoring women, why not join their ranks? You can start buy knocking your salary down 20% and wearing high heels to work.

Lex

 

[MystikWizard]

In some ways Yes and in some ways No.

In terms of the workforce, absolutely not.

However, you can be expected to be coddled to in other aspects, because men are just dying to get in womens' pants ... so they get their way in other aspects in society.

 

[Telstra]

No.

Women should wear suits and less colourful dresses or men should wear more colorful dresses.

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

Well, if you find society to be favoring women, why not join their ranks? You can start buy knocking your salary down 20% and wearing high heels to work.

Lex

From the minimun wage? I think not.

 

[StationToStation]

no society favors men. but like someone said earlier in a post, men are loosing ground.

working a female dominated industry i can say that women are women's worst enemy, men are not.

 

[G-Lexington]

>>>Men rule & women are second rate citizen. As it should be.

No wonder you're gay.

Lex

 

[Telstra]

>>>Men rule & women are second rate citizen. As it should be.

No wonder you're gay.

Lex

.....................

 

[Dduder]

More than men?

It depends on what you define as favoring. If you mean that little girls are treated more kindly, gently and are pampered more by adults than little boys, receive only a slap on the wrist for doing something naughty whilst a little boy doing exactly the same thing gets beaten by his dad with a belt until blood comes out, are protected by law from getting parts of their genitals cut off whilst a million boys a year in the U.S are mutilated and no one gives a damn, then yes they are. That women's lives are given priority over men's by the police in hostage situations, that their lives are given priority over men's by firemen when performing rescues on burning buildings, that they can become commander-in-chief of the armed forces, like Margaret Tatcher was during the Malvines war, but are exempt from getting drafted to die a horrible death on the front. That even an 80 year-old man with arthrites has to stand up to greet a 20 year-old girl and carry her bags, and then to thank her very much for allowing him to serve her, then yes women are priviledged. But look on the bright side! Only us men can become pope and serve as crew on nuclear submarines. Because, you know, suffering radiation poisoning is too much fun for us to allow women to join!

 

[justsimon]

No. .

 

[Jersey Domino]

It depends on what you define as favoring. If you mean that little girls are treated more kindly, gently and are pampered more by adults than little boys, receive only a slap on the wrist for doing something naughty whilst a little boy doing exactly the same thing gets beaten by his dad with a belt until blood comes out, are protected by law from getting parts of their genitals cut off whilst a million boys a year in the U.S are mutilated and no one gives a damn, then yes they are. That women's lives are given priority over men's by the police in hostage situations, that their lives are given priority over men's by firemen when performing rescues on burning buildings, that they can become commander-in-chief of the armed forces, like Margaret Tatcher was during the Malvines war, but are exempt from getting drafted to die a horrible death on the front. That even an 80 year-old man with arthrites has to stand up to greet a 20 year-old girl and carry her bags, and then to thank her very much for allowing him to serve her, then yes women are priviledged. But look on the bright side! Only us men can become pope and serve as crew on nuclear submarines. Because, you know, suffering radiation poisoning is too much fun for us to allow women to join!

Yeah this is what I was getting at.

 

[jaycee style]

It depends on what you define as favoring. If you mean that little girls are treated more kindly, gently and are pampered more by adults than little boys, receive only a slap on the wrist for doing something naughty whilst a little boy doing exactly the same thing gets beaten by his dad with a belt until blood comes out, are protected by law from getting parts of their genitals cut off whilst a million boys a year in the U.S are mutilated and no one gives a damn, then yes they are. That women's lives are given priority over men's by the police in hostage situations, that their lives are given priority over men's by firemen when performing rescues on burning buildings, that they can become commander-in-chief of the armed forces, like Margaret Tatcher was during the Malvines war, but are exempt from getting drafted to die a horrible death on the front. That even an 80 year-old man with arthrites has to stand up to greet a 20 year-old girl and carry her bags, and then to thank her very much for allowing him to serve her, then yes women are priviledged. But look on the bright side! Only us men can become pope and serve as crew on nuclear submarines. Because, you know, suffering radiation poisoning is too much fun for us to allow women to join!

this fuckin guy stole my whole post.

now all i can use is an example.

this was months ago, we're talkin like in January this happened, and I don't remember all the exact words, so i'm paraphrasing.

but there were some unfamiliars around my 'normal' group i was hangin with at that time. and this fat lady that wasn't one of the regulars hit me,
I guess she was playing or whatever but that shit fuckin hurt. and I just told her straight up "It happens once and it doesn't" happen again.
because it is not socially acceptible for me to hit you back and right now I really wanna blast you in your face.........blah blah blah. I flipped out a little more (I was sober, don't trip)

and we finished the evening as usual with frappacinos and a football game. but she never came around again.

 

[Alpha1851]

I think some societies protect women, but it really depends on the situation. For instance, a man hitting a woman here in the USA is a big deal, but if a woman were to hit a man, it's not really so much of an issue.

Of course, that's kind of balanced with the fact that women are often objectified.

It is a double standard, but I think it's b/c men are just physically stronger than we are. A man's slap, shove, or punch, has much more impact than a woman's. We're smaller, weigh less, and lack the muscle strength that men do. A man can outrun a woman as well which plays into it. The man can either restrain the woman, or get away from her, while she cannot do the same if he's the aggressor. Does that make it fair? No.

On that same note, women are less likely to receive the death penalty and their sentences are usually less harsh overall. Also, if a male teacher has sex w/ a student, he's an evil pervert, on the other hand, if a female teacher has sex w/ a student (it helps if she's attractive) then her student is lucky to have fucked her. You know, b/c every male is dying to fuck anything and everything he can from the moment he can get it up. It's as though a male cannot be sexually victimized by a female. So wrong!

If it helps, look at all the sexist phrases we use daily. Atta boy. Don't be a pussy. You throw like a girl. Be a man. Cowboy up. Son of a bitch.

It depends on what you define as favoring. If you mean that little girls are treated more kindly, gently and are pampered more by adults than little boys, receive only a slap on the wrist for doing something naughty whilst a little boy doing exactly the same thing gets beaten by his dad with a belt until blood comes out

Little girls are also more likely to be molested than little boys. I'm sorry if you were beaten growing up. That's child abuse, and I don't think child abuse is gender specific. Maybe boys are punished more harshly. Girls aren't allowed to do as much though, don't have as much freedom (just speaking from my own life).

are protected by law from getting parts of their genitals cut off whilst a million boys a year in the U.S are mutilated and no one gives a damn, then yes they are.

That's your opinion about circumcision.

That women's lives are given priority over men's by the police in hostage situations, that their lives are given priority over men's by firemen when performing rescues on burning buildings, that they can become commander-in-chief of the armed forces, like Margaret Tatcher was during the Malvines war, but are exempt from getting drafted to die a horrible death on the front.

I'm not sure if a woman's life is given priority anymore. Maybe. I imagine that saving children still gets top priority, so maybe that old school chivalry still exists w/ women as well. Maybe it's b/c men are stronger and no woman would get a life vest (or whatever) if not for chivalry. I mean, men would just take it from the women by brute force. I have no idea. In terms of fire rescue, the firemen save the folks as they can get to them.

Regarding the military, no one has been drafted since Vietnam. It's true that only men have to sign in w/ selected service, but make no mistake that women are front lines too! They are right there w/ the men as combat medics, EOD, transportation, etc. Women are not allowed to be in the infantry, armory, and other positions. It doesn't matter how strong she is, how healthy she is, how well she performs under pressure, or how smart she is, women are banned from those positions. Period. The kicker, is that those positions have higher sign on bonuses! So, don't feel as though you're only gender that gets screwed over by the military. If you want us to fight that's fine, but give us the same opportunities and pay us the same bonuses too!

That even an 80 year-old man with arthrites has to stand up to greet a 20 year-old girl and carry her bags, and then to thank her very much for allowing him to serve her, then yes women are priviledged.

That's true. I guess some women think it's sweet, and some find it annoying. I have no idea why men rush to the door to open it for me, or open my car door first, or carry out my groceries when it's just one Coke, or any of the other things they do. But, why shouldn't we ALL be polite and help one another? It's men, not women who aren't playing along. Why doesn't a younger man offer his seat to an elderly fella? Why don't men help one another carry heavy items? Why don't men help one another w/ luggage at the airport? Why don't men hold the door open for one another? AND, why won't some men accept help from a woman? Maybe I'm the only one who's experienced this, but when I try to hold the door open or offer up my seat to a man, that man always refuses.

Only us men can become pope and serve as crew on nuclear submarines. Because, you know, suffering radiation poisoning is too much fun for us to allow women to join!

You've got the Pope and submarine duty in there. Goodness. Well, being Pope is a privilege, and isn't required. So, it's not as though men are forced into the job. As far as the sub goes, well, I'm countering that w/ sexuality. If a man enjoys sex, he's normal. If a woman enjoys sex, she's a whore. If a man goes out and fucks a bunch of women, he's a stud; but, if a woman does the exact same thing, she's a slut. If a man is aggressive, he's just being a man; but, if a woman is aggressive, she must be on her period.

 

[Alpha1851]

Pussy rules the world. Not directly, but the dictator behind the man.

I can't believe I didn't catch this earlier b/c your post is perfect.

Pussy rules the world? See, even you, a gay man, objectifies women. We aren't people. We're just a pussy. A body part. A place to stick a dick.

Not directly, but the dictator behind the man? Dictator? Again, a strong woman is a dictator, but a strong man is a good leader. That's saying nothing of your stereotype that women are behind their men. This aint Leave it to Beaver.

 

[Dduder]

Little girls are also more likely to be molested than little boys. I'm sorry if you were beaten growing up. That's child abuse, and I don't think child abuse is gender specific. Maybe boys are punished more harshly. Girls aren't allowed to do as much though, don't have as much freedom (just speaking from my own life).

The difference is that child molestation is extremely rare. Whilst it may be true that say, one out of every thousand little girls are molested compared to one out of every ten thousand little boys, all little girls are treated by Society much better than little boys. Understand the difference? I hardly think that the higher statistical odds of girls being molested than boys make up for the better treatment that all girls get than boys since the odds of children of either gender being molested are so low.

That's your opinion about circumcision.

It's easy for you to say that because you're a woman and this could never happen to you. No, it is not my opinion: it is an unconstitutional bias in favor of one gender over the other. No law can be created that discriminates one gender in favor of the other, and yet little girls are protected from having their clitoral prepuces excised by law whilst little boys aren't protected by law from having their penile prepuces excised as well. That's a double-standard.

I'm not sure if a woman's life is given priority anymore. Maybe. I imagine that saving children still gets top priority, so maybe that old school chivalry still exists w/ women as well. Maybe it's b/c men are stronger and no woman would get a life vest (or whatever) if not for chivalry. I mean, men would just take it from the women by brute force. I have no idea.

The problem is that I wouldn't have a problem with this if the men shared the life vests with the women equally. Say, if there are 500 life vests and 1,000 men and women in equal number, 250 men and 250 women each get a vest. Nevertheless, this is not what happens: the men will give all the 500 life vests for the women and all the 500 men will drown.

In terms of fire rescue, the firemen save the folks as they can get to them.

Wrong. When there is a man and a woman to be saved and it's not possible to save both, the firemen will save the woman.

Regarding the military, no one has been drafted since Vietnam.

This applies only to the U.S and a few other countries. In most of the World, men are drafted whilst women are protected by law from having to die in the battlefield. And women have been allowed to run for president, or commander-in-chief of the armed forces, since the early twentieth century when there was a military draft and women were exempt from it.

It's true that only men have to sign in w/ selected service, but make no mistake that women are front lines too! They are right there w/ the men as combat medics, EOD, transportation, etc.

Big fucking deal. As you point out yourself, they don't have to be there, and even when they are there none of the positions they serve on involve dodging bullets regularly.

Women are not allowed to be in the infantry, armory, and other positions.

My point exactly.

It doesn't matter how strong she is, how healthy she is, how well she performs under pressure, or how smart she is, women are banned from those positions. Period.

Yes, because women's lives are deemed more valuable than men's. No one wants women returning home on body bags. You need to be really stupid to actually want to serve on the infantry front line where the odds of dying are so high.

The kicker, is that those positions have higher sign on bonuses!

Those positions also have a much higher mortality rate than the others that women are allowed to serve on. So you're basically saying that a few more bucks compensates for a 3,000% higher odd of dying? How can't you see that the fact women are not allowed to serve there is a compliment to their gender as it clearly indicates that Society values more their lives than men's?

So, don't feel as though you're only gender that gets screwed over by the military. If you want us to fight that's fine, but give us the same opportunities and pay us the same bonuses too!

No problem. I'll gladly change the job where I earn 2X and yet have a 50% chance of getting blown to pieces or maimed for life for one where I earn only X but have only a 5% odd of getting killed or maimed. The thing is, you see, that most countries in the World won't give me that option,. If I have testicles, I get to die whilst the girl that serves in the military with me gets to live.

That's true. I guess some women think it's sweet, and some find it annoying. I have no idea why men rush to the door to open it for me, or open my car door first, or carry out my groceries when it's just one Coke, or any of the other things they do. But, why shouldn't we ALL be polite and help one another? It's men, not women who aren't playing along. Why doesn't a younger man offer his seat to an elderly fella? Why don't men help one another carry heavy items? Why don't men help one another w/ luggage at the airport? Why don't men hold the door open for one another? AND, why won't some men accept help from a woman? Maybe I'm the only one who's experienced this, but when I try to hold the door open or offer up my seat to a man, that man always refuses.

He refuses because his mother told him that men are only men if they serve women, and that he is a failure as a man if he doesen't protect and defer to women. So it is you women who are to blame for the way men are, since you treat them brutishly from a young age to mold them into your slaves that only exist to carry things for you and pick your checks.

You've got the Pope and submarine duty in there. Goodness. Well, being Pope is a privilege, and isn't required. So, it's not as though men are forced into the job.

I used the pope as an example of something "good" that men are exclusively allowed to but not women. The pope example is perfect because few people want to be pope, since it involves living a restrained life and never getting to have sex. The same goes for the nuclear submarine: you get to live on a tin can for years and then get as a reward sterility and cancer from radiation poisoning.

As far as the sub goes, well, I'm countering that w/ sexuality. If a man enjoys sex, he's normal. If a woman enjoys sex, she's a whore. If a man goes out and fucks a bunch of women, he's a stud; but, if a woman does the exact same thing, she's a slut.

Actually, men are judged on their ability to sexually satisfy women. Just look at all the experts on sexuality and they all emphasize that women's orgasm comes first.

If a man is aggressive, he's just being a man; but, if a woman is aggressive, she must be on her period.

Conversely, if a man is hurt and cries he's an embarassment. If he shows any weakness people laugh at him and he becomes a worthless person in the eyes of most. If a woman is hurt, everyone sympathizes with her and tries to help her. Men can't complain: it is unmanly. Women complain and people listen and care about what's bothering her.