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Don't know what to do anymore...

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There's something that's been bothering me for a while now...it started about a month ago.

I was talking to two female coworkers when they started commenting about how "cute" this one male coworker looked that day. (They always talk about him as if he was their adorable little brother...I have no idea why because he looks and is around their age. They're seniors in high school, around a year younger than me or maybe less since I was always one of the younger people in my class. I graduated last summer.) Then Girl A suddenly looked at me with a mischievous smirk and said, "You want him, don't you?" (By the way, at that point at work I hadn't told anyone or even hinted that I was gay, and according to 95% of people I've told I'm gay, I'm very straight-acting.) I happened to like this guy, but I wasn't about to give that away, so I said "Umm, no." Then out of nowhere they mentioned to each other how he's bi and laughed girlishly. I never suspected that because he always seemed like an ordinary straight guy to me. I said, "He's really bi? I didn't know that." Girl B answered, "Yea! You couldn't tell? I thought guys had gaydar." "Well, he doesn't seem bi to me. How do you know he is?" "Oh, I've known him long enough to be able to tell!" Then he walked by and Girl A asked him, "Hey [name], what kind of guys do you like?" "...Hot ones," he said with a smile before he walked away. "You see?!" said Girl A to both Girl B and me. More girlish giggles. Then they persistently asked me, even though I had given no indication that I liked him or was even gay, "You want me to tell him something? Do you?" I kept saying no, and then Girl A suddenly ran off to talk to him like she always seems to do when she sees him. I asked Girl B "why do you guys keep asking me that? Does he like me or something?" She glanced sideways and quietly said, "That's what Girl A tells me." I think I blushed, then she repeated, "You want me to tell him something?!" I told her "not yet" because all this new information was a little overwhelming at the time, and I'd also never suspected that he liked me because I never caught him staring at me or anything like that. I now wish I'd said "yes"...I'll get to that later. Then I told her that I think I might be bi (even though I'm pretty sure I'm gay). I asked her not to tell anyone and she promised she wouldn't. Girl A pranced back and I guess she sensed something because she said, "What?" I looked at Girl B and said she could tell her. "Are you sure?" she said. Then I decided to tell her myself. Telling her was mistake #2, as I would soon find out. Although I only told her I was probably bi, that was probably an obvious clue that I like him considering the situation. Nothing else significant happened that day, but I was pretty happy.

The next day he was not working but Girl A was, so I asked her, rather awkwardly, "So...what's this I hear about [name] liking me?" I expected her to get all giggly again, but instead...she became solemn and kind of avoided the question. "Umm...well...." She walked away a little, started putting stuff in order. "Umm...he doesn't date people from work...oh and he's talking to this one girl at school...." Later that day she said, "What were we talking about earlier?" I told her, and she said, "Oh yeah...about that....." Then people walked by and started talking to her. The rest of the night, right when she was about to tell me whatever was on her mind, someone walked up and she had to stop. It was extremely frustrating, and by the time I had to go home, she still hadn't been able to tell me. So I went home, very confused and disappointed. I texted her asking "About yesterday, was that all a joke?" She responded saying that it was all a joke and that he wasn't bi.

So after that I was secretly really mad at her. I know she didn't know I liked him, but her "joke" was still pretty careless. And it also caused me to expose myself. It felt like one of those sarcastic jokes people play on people that they think are so unattractive that it's funny if they pretend to like them. I don't think I'm that unattractive and some people even think I'm really good-looking, but sometimes I have a really low self-esteem and think that I'm ugly though I'm probably delusional during those times (sometimes my face will literally seem to change from day to day when I look in the mirror...but that's another story LOL). So anyway this really hurt me and pissed me off. I wanted to beat her up but of course I can't hit girls. Then I started to think he and Girl B might be in on it, and I started to get pissed at them too. If he was in on it, I definitely wanted to beat him up. But this was all speculation.

I was dreading the next day because he worked that day and I had a gut feeling that she told him something. So I was at work, and he walks past me and says hi...and I could've sworn he blushed, and I've never seen him blush before. It was also a little odd that he said hi first because I usually say hi first, if we say hi at all. We don't know each other that well and our longest conversation has probably been 8 sentences or something. I remember seeing him in high school but I never talked to him. Anyway, I said hi back and he went on to his duties. Things felt awkward between us (even though we didn't talk) for the rest of that day.

Now I was even more confused, so I decided to call Girl B. Now I don't know her or Girl A that well and I don't talk to them outside of work, but I had to find out what was going on. I felt extremely awkward bringing up the subject. I told her what Girl A told me and asked her if she knew what was going on. She seemed surprised and said she was just as clueless as me. I asked if Girl A seemed to be joking when she told her that [name] liked me. "She could've been...I'm not sure." She said she found out that he was bi from one of his friends. Later someone told me that they used to date. (PS: she seems trustworthy, unlike Girl A)

So I asked her to ask Girl A about it but later told her not to because I was tired of all this middleman bullshit and figured I wasn't going to get anymore information out of Girl A anyway. I decided if I was going to find anything out for sure, I had to start talking to him. But things were very awkward between us, and soon we didn't even say hi to each other. Each time I wanted to talk to him, I just couldn't. I'm a generally shy person, and this awkwardness only made things worse. A few days ago, somehow, I said started a conversation while he was doing his duties near me. "So [name], are you going to go to college?" "Yea." "Which one?" "[name of college]. It should be alright..." Then he walked away. You'd think that if he really liked me, he would've taken that opportunity to talk more...but he just walked away.

So I'm still as clueless as ever and I don't know how I'll ever find anything out. I'm still mad at Girl A for not being straight with me. I can only think of a few possibilities:

1) He really does like me but he doesn't think it's a good idea to get involved with someone at work (even though we'll both be gone by this fall). Girl A wasn't supposed to tell anyone but she has a big mouth and it got around to me anyway. He got mad at her and she felt bad so she lied and said it was all a joke to try to fix things.

2) He's bi but he doesn't like me and Girl A really was joking. When she found out I liked him back, she felt bad and figured I would be better off thinking he wasn't even bi in the first place.

3) He really isn't bi and when he said he likes "hot ones" he was being sarcastic like a lot of straight guys are.

I've thought about this a lot and I'm convinced there's nothing else I can do to find out the truth...but I have to somehow because it's bothering me so much and I think about it every single day!!! I posted this in case someone has some special insight. Please help!
 
wow

It's not advisable to date from the work pool. Keep your crush to yourself, and find someone not attached to two cows.
 
It's always a mistake to talk to girls about guys; to talk to two giggling ones about a guy and then try to use them as intermediaries is positively stupid. Don't ever do that again.

Whether he's interested in you or not we can't know, but he saw the three of you huddled together for crying out loud. He's going to have his guard up if he's at all sane.

Starting a conversation like you did was the the right move. Doesn't mean anything that he was monosyllabic; once you've broken the ice it becomes easier to exchange a few words whenever there is a chance. If there is an interest on his part he will eventually open up a little...

... except all this happened a month ago and you haven't progressed?
 
...sometimes my face will literally seem to change from day to day when I look in the mirror...but that's another story LOL

LoL, I thought I was the only one who felt that way. Sorry, I don't have any actual advice to go along with this reply
 
Whether he's interested in you or not we can't know, but he saw the three of you huddled together for crying out loud. He's going to have his guard up if he's at all sane.

I don't want to reveal what my job is, but 80% of the time I'm "huddled together" with one or two other girls, and most of the time we're talking to each other, so I don't think that looked out of the ordinary. My job isn't feminine, I just happen to be the only male with my specific job in my workplace.

Starting a conversation like you did was the the right move. Doesn't mean anything that he was monosyllabic; once you've broken the ice it becomes easier to exchange a few words whenever there is a chance. If there is an interest on his part he will eventually open up a little...

Well the thing is, we used to actually talk to each other once in a while before all this happened, but this time he just walked away without really trying to continue the conversation. That's why I'm confused...

... except all this happened a month ago and you haven't progressed?

Well all that stuff with those girls happened in less than a week, than nothing happened for a few weeks other than feeling awkward around him, and he seemed to feel awkward too. Then a few days ago I stopped being a wuss and tried talking to him.

PS: He and Girl A are close friends so he must know what's going on...either that or she told him a bunch of lies, though I don't know why she'd do that.
 
Keep talking to him. That's the only way I see to resolve this. Try to become friends and leave the attraction at the door for now.

The better you get to know each other, the more honest you guys can be. And then it won't matter if he's gay or straight. He'll respect you as a friend.
 
This sounds more like junior high than a professional work environment. Just get back to work. If he wants to get to know you better, he'll make the effort.

Otherwise, just leave him alone or you and girl A and girl B may all be looking for a new job.
 
Keep talking to him. That's the only way I see to resolve this. Try to become friends and leave the attraction at the door for now.

The better you get to know each other, the more honest you guys can be. And then it won't matter if he's gay or straight. He'll respect you as a friend.

I see what you mean...it's just that it's so hard under the present circumstances and i don't see it happening. He knows that I know something and I know that he knows something...so things are very awkward. Before this happened we might've become friends...now it's very unlikely. But I'll try.
 
This sounds more like junior high than a professional work environment. Just get back to work. If he wants to get to know you better, he'll make the effort.

That's not necessarily true...there have been many hot guys who I didn't really try to get to know 'cause I didn't have the right opportunities but mostly because I didn't have the guts.
 
Hmm... I get this impression from you story that Girl A/B may have actually had a thing for you, and they were being playful about you liking the other guy. When you actually showed interest, it may have discouraged them, which could explain why they were a bit remorseful with you afterwards.

Lol, you have a good point. But Girl A has a boyfriend who she seems to really love, and sometimes she seems to talk to me condescendingly...but she does it a lot more these days...so I don't know. As for Girl B...she seems to respect me a lot more...and now I remember that the same day they talked about me liking [name], Girl A made an offhand comment that went something like, "I think you two want each other!"

PS: Girl A is one of the weirdest people I've ever known...she looks, talks, and moves like one of those hot, stuck-up, responsible, rich preppy girls who will go to a good college and who all the boys want in high school. But...she comes from a pretty redneck-ish family (at least according to the things she's said about them), is pregnant with her boyfriend's baby (and she's actually excited about it), and is friends with at least one of those odd, extremely goth people (at least according to her description of him)...and defends goth people as being completely different and better than the "emo" people. I'm not saying any of these things are bad...they are just in stark contrast to how her type would normally be...sometimes I think she's a psycho (other people I know think so too)...true psychotics seem completely normal on the outside. lol
 
Oh yeah, one thing I forgot to mention. Once I had to change the paper towels in the bathroom but I needed someone to teach me how since I'm relatively new (this is after the whole thing with those girls happened). Girl A told [name] to help me because he happened to be nearby. So anyway, I was struggling to make the new paper towel roll snap into place, and when he leaned in to help me, his arm kept brushing mine. It seemed to be deliberate. It wasn't one of those quick accidental brushes...he just kept his arm there for the whole time he was helping me. Maybe I'm over-analyzing this, idk
 
Arkward, weird...I know how it feel, I hated when pepople play joke on me.
 
well in my opinion when you have 2 girls and all they do is giggle 9 times out of 10 they are fuckin with ya. i wouldn't trust either, no questions asked. neither of them will ever tell you the truth about anything and i'm sure they are talking to each other about everything they say because they are bitches. never the less like it was said earlier, don't date it the same work pool
 
well in my opinion when you have 2 girls and all they do is giggle 9 times out of 10 they are fuckin with ya. i wouldn't trust either, no questions asked. neither of them will ever tell you the truth about anything and i'm sure they are talking to each other about everything they say because they are bitches. never the less like it was said earlier, don't date it the same work pool

Idk, I can just tell when I can trust people, and Girl B I can trust. We talk a lot when we work at the same time and I can tell she's not the type to fuck with people like that, especially not for such a long time (plus I can sense that she doesn't look down on me unlike Girl A). She doesn't know anymore than I do. Girl A is the definite liar who started this whole thing on her own. No wonder a lot of people say she's "fake".

I know everyone thinks it's a bad idea to date someone from work, but I think that's a dumb reason not to be with someone who might have turned out to be your soul mate. Plus Girl B and [name] used to date and there doesn't seem to be any problem between them at work. Girl B would even tell me how she thinks [name] is adorable and that he's a "peach". She didn't seem bitter about anything. There's 2 other girls I work with (one of them being Girl A) who currently date guys at my workplace and they seem just fine.
 
I know everyone thinks it's a bad idea to date someone from work
Think of it as a rule of thumb, but you have to use your own judgement.

If your breakups (or his) are typically followed by bad feelings and tension, then there is the obvious potential for bad feelings flowing over in the workplace...

if on the other hand you can maintain respect for each then I don't see a problem.
 
Idk, I can just tell when I can trust people, and Girl B I can trust.

I am just curious -- how long have you known Girl B? For me anyway, it takes a very long time for me to trust someone, especially someone I only know during working hours. And for the record, I don't mix business with pleasure. If I have crushes at work, that is what they stay and I continue with my priority: work! Aren't there other guys that you could pursue outside work .. geez, there must be at least a handful.

I know everyone thinks it's a bad idea to date someone from work, but I think that's a dumb reason not to be with someone who might have turned out to be your soul mate.

If he was your soulmate, the forces of nature would not place him in your workplace to deal with this difficult situation. Think about it that way.
 
I am just curious -- how long have you known Girl B? For me anyway, it takes a very long time for me to trust someone, especially someone I only know during working hours. And for the record, I don't mix business with pleasure. If I have crushes at work, that is what they stay and I continue with my priority: work! Aren't there other guys that you could pursue outside work .. geez, there must be at least a handful.

Actually there really isn't. I'm temporarily living with my parents in my hometown until this fall because I dropped out of college last fall, and all my friends aren't here anymore. The only place I really meet people is at work.



If he was your soulmate, the forces of nature would not place him in your workplace to deal with this difficult situation. Think about it that way.

Well maybe not soulmate but we still could've had some fun...haha jk. I see what you're saying. I think I'll just forget about him. I'll be gone this fall anyway.
 
Think of it as a rule of thumb, but you have to use your own judgement.

If your breakups (or his) are typically followed by bad feelings and tension, then there is the obvious potential for bad feelings flowing over in the workplace...

if on the other hand you can maintain respect for each then I don't see a problem.

Idk how I'd react...I've never had a real relationship like that. I've never tried to get a girlfriend, and it's really hard for me to find gay guys that I like because the ones I like are like me and don't act "gay", so it's almost impossible to figure out who they are. Anyway, I think I'll just forget about him for now.
 
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