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On-Topic Edward Snowden: NSA Whistleblower Revealed, Interview

I just read he has been officially charged. Does anyone has a simplified layout of what he did exactly? I mean if he was a contractor, was he allowed to obtain these documents? Did he illegally obtain them and did he leak to the the press in the states or abroad? Also, he couldn't possibly think this would end well for him? He had to know the life he has if officially over, not to mention the fallout to his family. He will be on the run for the rest of his life but more than likely he will be turned over shortly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/edward-snowden-charged_n_3480984.html
 
justdra said:
I just read he has been officially charged. Does anyone has a simplified layout of what he did exactly? I mean if he was a contractor, was he allowed to obtain these documents? Did he illegally obtain them and did he leak to the the press in the states or abroad? Also, he couldn't possibly think this would end well for him? He had to know the life he has if officially over, not to mention the fallout to his family. He will be on the run for the rest of his life but more than likely he will be turned over shortly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/edward-snowden-charged_n_3480984.html
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He already answered all these questions from his video interview. LOL
Surprised you didn't watch.
 
Update:

Thanks Telstra, I just went and read the interview. It was quick and to the point. The way its been all over news, none of which I've sat down and listened to, I figured it would be a long drawn out interview and I just don't have the patience for it. I still think his family will be questioned thoroughly and I still stand the he will be sent back to the US. Hong Kong will get something out of the deal. He is just fodder for slow news and soon as he gets behind bars, they will move on, just like they done with the Bradley guy and only his family and friends will be concerned about him. He made vaild points, all of which I'm sure any thinking person knows, we are in everyone business in the world, who else sets up shop in other country's back yard? That will never change. We are the bully in the world, always will be and not to say we don't do good because we do, but its usually for a price but would I live anywhere, hell nawl. I got the freedom to say shit like this.
 
justdra said:
Update:

Thanks Telstra, I just went and read the interview. It was quick and to the point. The way its been all over news, none of which I've sat down and listened to, I figured it would be a long drawn out interview and I just don't have the patience for it. I still think his family will be questioned thoroughly and I still stand the he will be sent back to the US. Hong Kong will get something out of the deal. He is just fodder for slow news and soon as he gets behind bars, they will move on, just like they done with the Bradley guy and only his family and friends will be concerned about him. He made vaild points, all of which I'm sure any thinking person knows, we are in everyone business in the world, who else sets up shop in other country's back yard? That will never change. We are the bully in the world, always will be and not to say we don't do good because we do, but its usually for a price but would I live anywhere, hell nawl. I got the freedom to say shit like this.
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I'm glad you realize this. I would invite all of those who complain about losing their rights/freedoms or the government being out to get them to live in a country where the government is indeed out to get you and you have no rights. People make these lofty claims because they've experienced nothing different to compare it to.

As far as Snowden is concerned, regardless of his motives, he broke the law. As a government employee, I have many channels that I can go down to report what I may perceive to be abuses of powers. I even have a method that is set up by the government for me to send concerns directly to members of Congress (including classified information) if I feel that other avenues aren't panning out. This guy had many LEGAL options to pursue and he chose the way that didn't follow the law and so he is being charged with the crimes he committed. Same thing with Bradley Manning. If you take a job and sign the lifetime obligations to protect and not disclose classified information, you become a criminal and a dishonorable person when you break those obligations.
 
tigerfan482 said:
I'm glad you realize this. I would invite all of those who complain about losing their rights/freedoms or the government being out to get them to live in a country where the government is indeed out to get you and you have no rights. People make these lofty claims because they've experienced nothing different to compare it to.

As far as Snowden is concerned, regardless of his motives, he broke the law. As a government employee, I have many channels that I can go down to report what I may perceive to be abuses of powers. I even have a method that is set up by the government for me to send concerns directly to members of Congress (including classified information) if I feel that other avenues aren't panning out. This guy had many LEGAL options to pursue and he chose the way that didn't follow the law and so he is being charged with the crimes he committed. Same thing with Bradley Manning. If you take a job and sign the lifetime obligations to protect and not disclose classified information, you become a criminal and a dishonorable person when you break those obligations.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Co-sign 100%.

I'm sure Snowden's glad that his "supporters" aren't even willing to give up Google internet searches. He's going to need someone or something, like an act of God, to stay out of jail.
 
There seems to be a slow leak of more information from Mr. Snowden.

UK's GCHQ has tapped into the fibre optic network that transports bulk internet transmissions. This 'wiretapping' is being shared with the US.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-communications-nsa

If all the data is being swallowed and retained for analysis, from all and any communication in the world, and the US and the Brits are doing it, then imagine this being done by the Russians and Chinese.

In the last week, we found out TianHe 2 is the world's fastest supercomputer built in China, developed by China's 'National University of Defence Technology'. At almost 34 Petaflops per sec, all those encrypted business and account transactions happily being hoovered up and 'processed'...
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articl...mputer-worlds-fastest-tianhe-2-processing.htm
 
tigerfan482 said:
I'm glad you realize this. I would invite all of those who complain about losing their rights/freedoms or the government being out to get them to live in a country where the government is indeed out to get you and you have no rights. People make these lofty claims because they've experienced nothing different to compare it to.

As far as Snowden is concerned, regardless of his motives, he broke the law. As a government employee, I have many channels that I can go down to report what I may perceive to be abuses of powers. I even have a method that is set up by the government for me to send concerns directly to members of Congress (including classified information) if I feel that other avenues aren't panning out. This guy had many LEGAL options to pursue and he chose the way that didn't follow the law and so he is being charged with the crimes he committed. Same thing with Bradley Manning. If you take a job and sign the lifetime obligations to protect and not disclose classified information, you become a criminal and a dishonorable person when you break those obligations.
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Easy said than don't.
You not in Snowden or Mannings shoes. If you are them, you will become them ;)
 
Edward Snowden is SO cute! I'd get him arrested, handcuffed and then do gay things to him.
 
Telstra said:
Easy said than don't.
You not in Snowden or Mannings shoes. If you are them, you will become them ;)
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What does having to be in their shoes have to do with anything? It's not like their family was kidnapped and threatened with death unless they revealed government secrets. These traitors willfully chose to divulge classified information. So if you're saying I've never been in the shoes of someone who chose one day to just break the law and damage the national security of their country, then you're right. I never have been there and I never will be.
 
Right,he goes to countries that our hostile to us and we consider him a hero?
 
Ninja108 said:
Right,he goes to countries that our hostile to us and we consider him a hero?
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That the United States authorities have requested Hong Kong to honour its extradition treaty with the United States it makes good sense to me and presumably to Mr. Snowden that he transfers to a jurisdiction without an extradition treaty with the United States.
 
I suspect that very soon, he will just disappear. Literally.
 
He landed in Moscow. The russians are trying to keep him there, but it is said that he wants to leave for Venezuela. Russian officials said that, contrary to HK, they don't shy the confrontation with the US. But imho this would be a bad move, as it would label him even more of a "traitor". On the other hand, I doubt that he is safe in Venezuela ...
 
If he wanted to do this,there were places and people for him to go to here. Sorry,I'm not on board with him.
 
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