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Elena Kagan Nominated to US Supreme Court [MERGED]

Re: Obama to choose Lesbian as Supreme Court Nominee

palemale said:
Justice Kennedy has been a swing vote, siding with the liberals on a number of issues, such as abortion and civil rights.

And Timm, Bush appointed right-wing, result oriented judicial activists.
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Nope.

He appointed distinguished legal scholars and jurists well within the mainstream.

Miguel Estrada was unanimously vetted as "well qualified" by the ABA, but the Democrats had to filibuster him because they couldn't allow a non leftie Hispanic into the appeals courts because that would have made him a likely nominee for the first Hispanic Supreme Court Justice and they really couldn't have that.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110004305

Bill Clinton nominated an extreme left wing, results oriented, ACLU lawyer who was confirmed 96-3 because Republicans believe elections have consequences, just like BO.
 
JasunStrikesBack said:
Um.. people.. she's not a lesbian.

Why are people saying that?
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Umm, yes. She is a lesbian, card carrying, carpet munching, plaid wearing, Ford F10 drivin', Home Depot visitin' les. You expect to see her laid out backwards on a Harley to open a gay pride parade.
 
sentirpromesas said:
she is apparently against same-sex marriage: http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/05/supreme-irony-kagan-nomination-ends-gay.html
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That doesn't say she is opposed to same sex marriage. It says she said there is no constitutional right to it. That statement can be read any number of ways. If you take it literally, it could mean that there is simply no enumerated right for that in the text of the constitutional, which would be a correct statement. That doesn't mean she couldn't find that an injustice against gay people could fall under some other part of the Constitution though, such as equal protection.

She does have a history of supporting equal treatment of gay people, so how she would rule on a gay marriage case remains an open question imo.
 
Re: Obama to choose Lesbian as Supreme Court Nominee

PrivateTimm said:
Bill Clinton nominated an extreme left wing, results oriented, ACLU lawyer who was confirmed 96-3 because Republicans believe elections have consequences, just like BO.
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This doesn't describe anyone currently on the SCOTUS.
 
Re: Obama to choose Lesbian as Supreme Court Nominee

justapixel said:
http://www.queerty.com/obama-will-pick-that-rumored-lesbian-elena-kagan-for-supreme-court-20100509/

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Most news sites are referring to Elena Kagan as "the never married Elena Kagan".

She is also against DADT


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...general_elena_kagan_to_the_supreme_court.html
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She is a cutie - are you sure that's a woman?
 
Re: Obama to choose Lesbian as Supreme Court Nominee

Knucklehead said:
I want a left wing extremist.I'll have to read up more about her, but so far, she doesn't seem left enough for me.She seems a little too cozy with right wingers for me..
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Before you can cross the Tiber you have to build a bridge.

Cause nobody wants to swim there..

He's not going to be the best president by going supernova. Strong strides...not leaps. Kagan seems like a good chioce for a year and a half into an 8 year term. He's only a fifth of the way through. He's done okay for that amount of time.
 
Re: Obama to choose Lesbian as Supreme Court Nominee

bankside said:
Before you can cross the Tiber you have to build a bridge.

Cause nobody wants to swim there..

He's not going to be the best president by going supernova. Strong strides...not leaps. Kagan seems like a good chioce for a year and a half into an 8 year term. He's only a fifth of the way through. He's done okay for that amount of time.
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4 year term. ..|
 
Re: Obama to choose Lesbian as Supreme Court Nominee

bankside said:
Before you can cross the Tiber you have to build a bridge.

Cause nobody wants to swim there..

He's not going to be the best president by going supernova. Strong strides...not leaps. Kagan seems like a good chioce for a year and a half into an 8 year term. He's only a fifth of the way through. He's done okay for that amount of time.
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This isn't summer camp, where one-fifth of the way through you get a "good job!" for a dive that's more like a belly-flop.

He's President of the United States with an overwhelming Dem majority Congress appointing a Supreme Court Justice who'll interpret our laws for maybe the next 30 years. Including, I might add, same sex marriage. Now is the time to perform a perfect dive; "okay" is not good enough.

I'm not saying Kagen is a belly-flop, but this typical defense of Obama is ridiculous.
 
Lack of Judicial experience BULLSHIT.

WE DONT NEED JUDGES ON THE COURT

you dont have to be a judge to be on the court, i dont know why people are obsessed with this.
 
I wonder why no one is talking about Obama not naming a black person.
 
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NickCole said:
This isn't summer camp, where one-fifth of the way through you get a "good job!" for a dive that's more like a belly-flop.

He's President of the United States with an overwhelming Dem majority Congress appointing a Supreme Court Justice who'll interpret our laws for maybe the next 30 years. Including, I might add, same sex marriage. Now is the time to perform a perfect dive; "okay" is not good enough.

I'm not saying Kagen is a belly-flop, but this typical defense of Obama is ridiculous.
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Let me borrow your analogy for a moment...this isn't summer camp where you can win "Camp Leader of the Year" and then completely remake the camp according to your own principles, rebuilding it from the ground up.

It's a country! They don't turn on a dime. And the only reason I would rate him as okay is for the very reason that he is not trying out for a merit badge; he's shaping history, and only through the lens of history can we properly appreciate greatness. I think he's entering the water in perfect form, but only time will tell.
 
Re: Obama to choose Lesbian as Supreme Court Nominee

JonesHere said:
^^

From what I've heard, what you advocate is specifically what Obama is trying not to do, because having a more liberal consensus builder is more advantageous than fueling a left-right split.

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this case, though in general I think he tries for too much consensus building with a group that refuses to participate.
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Then did you applaud Bush for not trying consensus building? After all, he didn't try much for consensus building with a group that refused to participate.

What Obama is doing is in good historical tradition: appointing justices as agreeable to everyone as possible.
 
Re: Obama to choose Lesbian as Supreme Court Nominee

Knucklehead said:
Yeah,but you said it yourself,how can you build concensus with a group that refuses to participate?

I keep scratching my head, wondering why he keeps trying to include the right in any debate.Time after time, they show up,listen to what he has to say,throw in some wild slurs, then ALL vote against whatever he is advocating..

The time has come to quit playing games with these people.Put in a hard line liberal who WILL stand up to their excesses..
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A hard line liberal is as dangerous to the Constitution as a hard line right-winger.
 
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