EU pays jobless migrants to come to Britain [MERGED]

[kallipolis]

Re: EU pays jobless migrants to come to Britain.

Here is an example of the "failed" immigrant class now a government minister....ironically, a conservative.....and a Muslim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sajid_Javid

 

[Brian Smith]

Re: EU pays jobless migrants to come to Britain.

The fact that he has superficial charm, is an immigrant and is a Muslim does not necessarily mean that he ought to be tolerated, although I do find him charming and would lay him in a New York minute. My GOD LUCIFER, he is sexy!

 

[bankside]

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The migrants bring their own failed cultures with them, and resist assimilation. Hence my concern for the great cultures of Europe--and the US.

You are mistaken if you think everyone comes to the US fleeing "cultural failure." A smart country sees the potential benefits of immigration when people arrive bringing cultural strengths that can enrich their new home.

 

[mikemizanin729]

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First, don't wave your finger at me. It makes a person look sophomoric. Furthermore, I have never been able to convince a moderator anywhere that I am allowed to speak truthfully about the character of a person who has none. Just because a statement is true does not mean that it is permitted.

To reiterate the same sentiments as before:

1) You are again casting migrants to your country as having less worth, as people, than those born there. This is hate speech. It is not a valid political view, but it is hate. It is disparaging the human worth of migrants to your country. You are aware that they have the same worth as yourself, ceteris paribus, and if you choose not to honor this fact, then this is an unforgivable defect in your character. As a society, we do have standards, and you are falling short if you do not honor the worth and dignity of your fellow man, regardless of his nationality.

2) When you find yourself in your time of need, do not forget that you once knocked the canteen away from the lips of those who were most thirsty, and you seem to be doing so out of the viciousness of your character, rather than out of want for yourself.

3) Your hostility toward migrants to your country is, as far as I can tell, identical to the hostility that people in my own country have toward Mexicans. I don't count them as members of the human race, so why should I count you as a member of the human race? Here in the US, we have a whole subculture of xenophobic lunatics known as the Tea Bag Party.

You are right-wing. This is sick, disgusting, and immoral. The right-wing should not be tolerated, regardless of nationality.

The things your pointing out about Mexicans aren't relevant here and NOT related to what's going on here.

There are a bunch of Jihadists on welfare in my country who pose a threat to the UK while our own can't get a house or a job THEY eithre have a job or claim all the benefire under the sun here while they plot harass our nation. Those people are also stealing all the jobs and you can call it a hate speech all you want but I guess I'm only saying what we all talk about here 24/7.

That too me is disgusting to use our benefit system and disrespect the very Country that housed, fed, and clothed them.

Here is an example of the Jihadists who abuse our system. This man has been clothed, fed, and he now has five bedroom house and that's one house less for us.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-thwarting-deportation-attempts-15-years.html

 

[T-Rexx]

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The migrants bring their own failed cultures with them, and resist assimilation. Hence my concern for the great cultures of Europe--and the US.

If you had walked down a street in Rome in 79 A.D., you would have heard a dozen different languages being spoken. Because the "great culture" of Rome was awash in immigration.

If you walk down a street in Rome today, you will hear a dozen different languages being spoken. Because the "great culture" of modern Italy is a melting pot for people from all over the world.

Immigration has always been a lifeblood for great societies. It brings new ideas and change that keep the "great cultures" of the world alive. Cutting off such contact is a guarantee of eventual death for a society.

And I reiterate. Your claim that abortion is the cause of the aging of European societies is absurd. You have a serious problem with facts and with truth.

 

[Brian Smith]

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And furthermore, I can assure you that body-English is spoken the same in all languages.

I cannot believe that the same culture that produced Judi Dench and Elton John can also produce racist hooligans.

The fact that there is such diversity in your own culture, between those of you who have character and those of you who don't, is all the more evidence that you should never judge people from other cultures, based on their nation of origin. A Briton is not Judi Dench, just because that person is a Briton and Judi Dench is also a Briton. A Briton can also be a squalid moron, besides being anything like Judi Dench.

I therefore see no reason that an immigrant from another country could not manage to be more like you than some of your own countrymen, unfortunately.

 

[mikemizanin729]

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Jihadist with 'open links to Osama bin Laden' will stay in UK thanks to Human Rights laws.


This Jihadist will be clothed, fed, and kept by the taxpayers. We also have human rights and we have RIGHTS as taxpayers to be able to walk up the road without the worry of Jihadists chopping our heads off.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/59...Extradite-European-Convention-on-Human-Rights

 

[Benvolio]

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You are mistaken if you think everyone comes to the US fleeing "cultural failure." A smart country sees the potential benefits of immigration when people arrive bringing cultural strengths that can enrich their new home.

Of course most come here to escape failed economies and political systems. But both are a function and result of the local culture-- which is not the same race. Contrast the success of the English soeaking countries--UK, US, CAnada, australia, New Zealand-- economically and democraticaly wth that of the Hispanic countries, or the Islamic countries. The difference is ultimaly the result of culture. No, not race. People are fleeing to the English-culture countries and away from the others.

 

[AgisMole]

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Well said I could say T-Rexx. Correct. Of course there could be a huge plethora of very deep considerations about that but if for the middle class ppl raising children is getting more and more difficult in Italy could it be because this "middle class" is simply disappearing there?. And what about elsewhere?

 

[Benvolio]

Re: EU pays jobless migrants to come to Britain.

Jihadist with 'open links to Osama bin Laden' will stay in UK thanks to Human Rights laws.


This Jihadist will be clothed, fed, and kept by the taxpayers. We also have human rights and we have RIGHTS as taxpayers to be able to walk up the road without the worry of Jihadists chopping our heads off.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/59...Extradite-European-Convention-on-Human-Rights

When the muslims become a larger part of the British population, will they respect the religion, art, music and archtecture of the British, much of which is Christian, or seek to destroy it as they do in other countries? I think we know the answer.

 

[Brian Smith]

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The things your pointing out about Mexicans aren't relevant here and NOT related to what's going on here.

You have never heard of drug cartels, have you? Mexican drug cartels are several times more violent than the Russian Mafia, and they are about one fourth as ethical as Daesh.

However, I can assure you that the boy who shot up a church recently in Charleston, South Carolina, USA was born American, and so were the fools who influenced him.

There are a bunch of Jihadists on welfare in my country

Then they are so much like you! They are ridiculously ungrateful and hypocritical, and they are intolerant of people from other cultures. They think more like you than the majority of your own countrymen. Why don't you identify more closely with these Jihadists? You have so much in common with them.

who pose a threat to the UK

Oh, they certainly do pose a threat to you. They threaten to expose you as hypocritical racist scum by living moral, decent lives. Of course, you are terrified of them. You are terrified that they will upstage you by proving themselves more worthy as Britons.

while our own can't get a house or a job THEY eithre have a job or claim all the benefire under the sun here while they plot harass our nation. Those people are also stealing all the jobs and you can call it a hate speech all you want but I guess I'm only saying what we all talk about here 24/7.

Conservatives in the US whine about Mexicans 24/7, and those of us who have a moral conscience want to kick them very very hard.

That too me is disgusting to use our benefit system and disrespect the very Country that housed, fed, and clothed them.

You didn't house and clothe them. Moral and upstanding human beings voted to do so. You voted against it because you are neither moral nor upstanding.

Here is an example of the Jihadists who abuse our system. This man has been clothed, fed, and he now has five bedroom house and that's one house less for us.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-thwarting-deportation-attempts-15-years.html

That is like judging all Mexicans because because of one drug kingpin. We produce plenty of our own scum, so why shouldn't Mexico be entitled to produce their own? We produce murderous white supremacists, here, and we also produce dipshit war-mongering Republicans. They are all equivalently evil, regardless of where they come from.

 

[Benvolio]

Re: EU pays jobless migrants to come to Britain.

If you had walked down a street in Rome in 79 A.D., you would have heard a dozen different languages being spoken. Because the "great culture" of Rome was awash in immigration.

If you walk down a street in Rome today, you will hear a dozen different languages being spoken. Because the "great culture" of modern Italy is a melting pot for people from all over the world.

Immigration has always been a lifeblood for great societies. It brings new ideas and change that keep the "great cultures" of the world alive. Cutting off such contact is a guarantee of eventual death for a society.

And I reiterate. Your claim that abortion is the cause of the aging of European societies is absurd. You have a serious problem with facts and with truth.

That is a bad choice. The massive immigration of other cultures into Rome weakened the character of the people, making susceptible to the military take over of Caesar and later Augustus, and eventually weakening their ability to resist the barbarian invasions.
Today, Rome, officials warn is on the verge of collapsehttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/11741933/Rome-is-on-the-verge-of-collapse-and-needs-urgent-repair-leaders-warn.html
The people of rome do not appreciate the invasion.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...Italian-opposition-to-migrants-increases.html
A little immigration brings new ideas; too much totally changes the society and usually, not for the better. Ask the Celtic Britons, driven out by the Anglo Saxons, or they in turn subjugated by the Normans. The barbarian invasions of Rome lead to a long period called the Dark Ages.
We are on the verge of giving political and economic control of our country to people and cultures who have made messes of their own counties.

 

[mikemizanin729]

Re: EU pays jobless migrants to come to Britain.

You have never heard of drug cartels, have you? Mexican drug cartels are several times more violent than the Russian Mafia, and they are about one fourth as ethical as Daesh.

However, I can assure you that the boy who shot up a church recently in Charleston, South Carolina, USA was born American, and so were the fools who influenced him.

Then they are so much like you! They are ridiculously ungrateful and hypocritical, and they are intolerant of people from other cultures. They think more like you than the majority of your own countrymen. Why don't you identify more closely with these Jihadists? You have so much in common with them.

Oh, they certainly do pose a threat to you. They threaten to expose you as hypocritical racist scum by living moral, decent lives. Of course, you are terrified of them. You are terrified that they will upstage you by proving themselves more worthy as Britons.

Conservatives in the US whine about Mexicans 24/7, and those of us who have a moral conscience want to kick them very very hard.

You didn't house and clothe them. Moral and upstanding human beings voted to do so. You voted against it because you are neither moral nor upstanding.

That is like judging all Mexicans because because of one drug kingpin. We produce plenty of our own scum, so why shouldn't Mexico be entitled to produce their own? We produce murderous white supremacists, here, and we also produce dipshit war-mongering Republicans. They are all equivalently evil, regardless of where they come from.

Because you seem to be ignoring the links I posted above and babbling on i'll ask you this question.

Should Jihadists be allowed to stay in a country and claim welfare that they pose a threat too...???

I'll add that I won't deny that we have our own born criminals here like everywhere but why should we have to put up with the ones who weren't born here...???


The murder of Lee Rigby should've been an eye opener for us to kick this bunch out.

 

[Brian Smith]

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Because you seem to be ignoring the links I posted above and babbling on i'll ask you this question.

Should Jihadists be allowed to stay in a country and claim welfare that they pose a threat too...???

Will denying them keep them from posing a threat?

Broken and disillusioned, young fools are the people who become Jihadists.

You aim to make them less broken and less disillusioned by being more hostile and less hospitable toward them. Boy, I admire many Britons, but I don't admire them because they are Britons. I admire them because they are the polar opposite of you. They are intelligent, educated, charitable, worldly, and, moreover, patient and welcoming toward people from other cultures. They do everything that makes a culture come across as admirable, and you do everything that makes a culture come across as shameful and tacky.

Americans who are racist against Mexican-Americans make me feel like the American flag ought to be buried in soft peat and forgotten somewhere until we have come to our senses and purged them from our country. If we can't be arsed to do so, then let the damn thing decompose.

 

[JohnnyAnger]

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The things your pointing out about Mexicans aren't relevant here and NOT related to what's going on here.

There are a bunch of Jihadists on welfare in my country who pose a threat to the UK while our own can't get a house or a job THEY eithre have a job or claim all the benefire under the sun here while they plot harass our nation. Those people are also stealing all the jobs and you can call it a hate speech all you want but I guess I'm only saying what we all talk about here 24/7.

That too me is disgusting to use our benefit system and disrespect the very Country that housed, fed, and clothed them.

Here is an example of the Jihadists who abuse our system. This man has been clothed, fed, and he now has five bedroom house and that's one house less for us.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-thwarting-deportation-attempts-15-years.html

I'm sorry, this thread was meant to be about EU migrants I thought? Or are we importing jihadis from Poland now? The typical move by people losing an argument is to jump wildly to a new topic, something I think you are doing here.


I can assure you, we haven't had any terrorists turn up from the EU nor do I see it happening any time soon.


Anyway, most of the terrorists are not immigrants, so this topic is completely pointless. We do need to do deal with why second, third and fourth generation kids brought up in Britain are turning to something their parents do not deem normal. But hey, that is for another thread - you can detail how you intended to identify someone with certain thoughts, and how we can then stop their 'benefits' (what do we do if they have a job or something!!)

 

[JohnnyAnger]

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Because you seem to be ignoring the links I posted above and babbling on i'll ask you this question.

Should Jihadists be allowed to stay in a country and claim welfare that they pose a threat too...???

I'll add that I won't deny that we have our own born criminals here like everywhere but why should we have to put up with the ones who weren't born here...???


The murder of Lee Rigby should've been an eye opener for us to kick this bunch out.

How do you work out which person is a 'jihadi'? By kick the bunch out should I just take it you mean all Muslims? Or all non-white people? Or what?

 

[AgisMole]

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That is a bad choice. The massive immigration of other cultures into Rome weakened the character of the people, making susceptible to the military take over of Caesar and later Augustus, and eventually weakening their ability to resist the barbarian invasions.
Today, Rome, officials warn is on the verge of collapsehttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/11741933/Rome-is-on-the-verge-of-collapse-and-needs-urgent-repair-leaders-warn.html
The people of rome do not appreciate the invasion.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...Italian-opposition-to-migrants-increases.html
A little immigration brings new ideas; too much totally changes the society and usually, not for the better. Ask the Celtic Britons, driven out by the Anglo Saxons, or they in turn subjugated by the Normans. The barbarian invasions of Rome lead to a long period called the Dark Ages.
We are on the verge of giving political and economic control of our country to people and cultures who have made messes of their own counties.

Ben sorry in 79 A.D. Octavianus Augustus was already dead. 65 years before...

 

[otters]

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The worst kind of trash will always look for someone else to blame.

Look at Benvolio hijacking the thread with his usual bullshit.

LOL Exactly my thought.

 

[mikemizanin729]

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How do you work out which person is a 'jihadi'? By kick the bunch out should I just take it you mean all Muslims? Or all non-white people? Or what?

No.

There are a bunch already identified claiming welfare here.

Why are those ones even still here?

Jihadi preacher Hani al-Sibai is now living in a five bedroom house in West London and taking from the taxpayers after spreading his spew he has been rawarded.

 

[Brian Smith]

Re: EU pays jobless migrants to come to Britain.

No.

There are a bunch already identified claiming welfare here.

Why are those ones even still here?

Jihadi preacher Hani al-Sibai is now living in a five bedroom and taking from the taxpayers after spreading his spew he has been rawarded.

And there are Klansmen in the US who are drawing welfare benefits!!! There members of the BNP who are drawing welfare benefits.

And this is because we know that, if we did not attempt to stupefy their minds on empty calories and bland television programming, they would be even more dangerous than they already are. Welfare is the most effective policing agency ever created. Welfare does what tear-gas and water-cannons failed to do.