Excessive phyiscal contact from a staight guy?

[Kyanimal]

Hey, Granat ...

That was So SWEET!

Yeah! It can be really ackward! Especially if neither one has any "experience" with such matters/situations. The thing is, SOMEBODY has to make a "move" ... like ... um ... "Hey! Nice T-shirt! Can I try it on?" Are you two roughly the same size? Could you wear each others' clothes? And I do mean swapping ALL of what you're wearing, at the moment.

The thing is ... now that the "ice" has been broken a little, the rest, if you both want more, should get easier, and easier. Both of you just need to find some ways to let each other know what it is you might be interested in doing, or not. It's all about Communication, now.

And ... should you decide to start another thread ... might you please post a link to it in this one? Would certainly like to continue following your story!

As always ... no matter what ...

Keep smilin'!! "Kiss" "Hug"
Chaz ;-)

(Darn "Smilie" Limit!!! "Tantrum!")

 

[Lube]

Actually can a moderator remove my previous post (#85)? I think it's inappropriate and serves no purpose here. Thanks.

Why? I agree with Kyanimal. It was very cute.

Glad things are working out. Go at whatever pace makes you comfortable. But as you'll soon find out, most guys will gladly go as fast as you want to go.

 

[p700granat]

So I think things are going pretty well with my newly-met gay friend. We had a good chat during the early hours today. We started out talking about our awkward and laughable experience Saturday night/Sunday morning, and as I guessed he was just as unprepared as I was. The kissing was the greatest surprise to both of us. Then we had a serious discussion about our expectations for the future, and it seems that we both like each other a lot and hope it could become a relationship. It's regrettable that we didn't KNOW each other until a month before we graduate, as I'll start working in West Coast and he's going to grad school in the Mid-West. I mean we first met during our sophomore year! Anyway, we agreed to just enjoy each other's company for the next twenty or so days, and hope for the best afterwards. We also met for dinner again tonight, and it would probably be pretty often.

One thing I have not yet discussed with him is I'm still hesitant to go too far sexually. I think we both enjoyed other's personality and we always had great conversations, but I'm somewhat worried that going too far sexually would complicate things. I'm not sure how to start a conversation about this even though he may actually agree with me on this, and certainly would not be too pushy even if he does not. I would really appreciate it if someone's willing to talk to me about this on PM.

As of deleting the last post, I was primarily concerned about his privacy. I told him about JUB and this post (when it was mostly about my furry friend). I wasn't sure if he'll be happy seeing those kind details between us posted here. Also that post wasn't really seeking advice or anything, which is why I said "it served no purpose". I still think it's better if someone can delete it.

 

[p700granat]

And as of my furry friend ... FrankMillersTylerSophia, come get him! He's all yours now. To Lube and Atomw7, I'm pretty damn sure he's straight, or even if he's bi, he's not seriously interested in me. That's not because he said he is, but many other things I described in some of my earlier posts, especially the way he looked at me. I mean, just last Monday during an event for pre-frosh, I caught him staring at me for long periods of time, almost like saying "I want a piece of you". I was totally shocked as he never looked at me like that before, until he asked me about ten minutes later, "where did you get that ice-cream?". He's interested in my ice-cream much more than he's interested in me! So you get the idea. If you still think every furry is at least bi, go to a furry convention and get a cute one yourself

 

[Lube]

So I think things are going pretty well with my newly-met gay friend. We had a good chat during the early hours today. We started out talking about our awkward and laughable experience Saturday night/Sunday morning, and as I guessed he was just as unprepared as I was. The kissing was the greatest surprise to both of us. Then we had a serious discussion about our expectations for the future,...

I'm not sure how to start a conversation about this even though he may actually agree with me on this, and certainly would not be too pushy even if he does not. I would really appreciate it if someone's willing to talk to me about this on PM.

Seems like you're doing fine! You seem to be able to bring up subjects and discuss them rationally. Just keep doing what you're doing. You're doing great!

 

[Atomw7]

If you still think every furry is at least bi, go to a furry convention and get a cute one yourself

Whose to say I haven't?

 

[p700granat]

Okay, I have some questions that are not quite related to the previous posts. As I mentioned before, I have less than a month before graduating from college. Among the many things I haven't done during college is getting drunk. There have been times when under peer pressure I had like one or two glasses of wine, beer or a small shot glass of liquor, but never exceeded that. The primary reason is I don't like their tastes, especially the taste of beer.

When I chatted with my newly met gay friend about a month ago, I mentioned this and he said we can get drunk sometime during a weekend. He doesn't drink much either, but he seemed to had enough to develop some tastes and preferences. The topic came up again at another point. Now I kind of want to try it at least once before I graduate. I find it pretty amusing to see other people drunk, and would like to see how it feels like. There are times when I was with a bunch of people on Friday or Saturday night, when many of them are drunk to some degree and I just couldn't fit into the conversation. Also when I spend time with my newly met gay friend, even during the past two Saturday nights when we are together behind a closed door, I find both of us being a bit too polite and cautious. I mean we had great conversations and we both enjoyed the cuddlings and kissings, but when the light is out and we are on the same bed, maybe it's time for our brains to take a break and let other parts of the body take over. So I'm seriously considering getting drunk real soon, perhaps the coming weekend.

So my first question is, how do I know I'm drunk? I don't want to get too drunk, e.g. have permanent health impact, have bad hang-over the next day, vomit, or do/say really, really stupid things. So I'd like to be able to stop once I know I'm drunk. Also, which kind of alcohol is the best to get myself into a drunk "state of mind" but with minimal long-term and short-term health impact? Is there anything else I should know? Thanks.

 

[Kyanimal]

Hmmm ... darn good questions!

I can understand the "taste thing". Alcohol, in all forms, is an "aquired taste thing". Like, say, coffee and/or olives, for instance. Do Your general preferrences tend toward "sour" or "sweet"? I would advise a "hard" liquor diluted (quite a lot) with a "mix". There are many simple cocktail recipes. But, until we know what you might like ... "fruity"? ... "tart"? ... it's difficult to make suggestions.

How will you know when you're drunk? Well ... if you're feeling a bit "dizzy", or "disoriented", or having some "small" problems controlling your body's movements, and realize that you don't care, all that much, about what you do, or don't do, then, odds are, you're drunk! And, if the room is "spinning", then you've definitely gone to far!

As for the long/short term health concerns, I wouldn't worry, all that much, considering this will be Your first time "out"! Just like anything else, it will take a bit of "experimentation" to find out exactly how Your body is going to react to alcohol! Everyone is different! It all depends on Your particular metabolism, Your weight, Your "build", and the specific type of alcohol involved.

In most cases, alcohol consumption is more of an "excuse" to "loosen up" than it is a real "cause", if you catch my drift. It is not so much about "freeing up your inhibitions" as much as it is about impairing your immediate "judgement".

And, a word of warning, alcohol's effects are "accumulative". If you drink rapidly, until you feel you've had "enough", then you've already overdone it! It takes awhile for the effects to reach your brain!

The objective should not be to become completely "plotzed"! But, rather, to work up to a mild "buzz". A mild state of "euphoria". Besides ... if you get completely drunk ... and an "opportunity" should "arise" ... your odds of getting "HARD" are going to decline with the more you drink! But ... then again ... You're still YOUNG!! (And ... THAT makes a big difference!)

Many will disagree with me, but I would advise Everyone to get drunk at least ONCE in their lives! Just to find out what it's like, of course! The most important aspect is what You think about it once You've done it! MODERATION is the key, here! How will You KNOW if You've had any "FUN" if You can't remember it???

The "cheap stuff" will most likely lead to a Hangover! And, trust me on this one!, THAT is NOT "FUN"! (I know because I've been "there"! )

So ... let "Us" know Your general "tastes", and perhaps "We" can offer some advice on putting together a comfortable time for You and Your Friend!

At least ... it's worth a "Try"!

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz ;-)

P.S.
This NEW "Smilie Limit" of 8 is a bit more tolerable! (Thumbs UP!)

 

[KaraBulut]

The term "drunk" is a matter of degrees.

There's "buzzed" drunk. And then there's "puking" drunk.

Hopefully, you're planning "buzzed" drunk. Anything beyond that is sometimes funny but seldom sexy.

But the agenda for both of you is to release your inhibitions, isn't it? The same thing can be accomplished with a can of whipped cream. Or a nice warm bath for two.

Imagination works better than alcohol anyday.

And initiative work pretty well, too. Take his hand into yours and take him where you want him to go.

 

[Jo-thin]

I think he's straight!
some guys are like so secure about their sexuality!
Like one of my friends I had a crush on would chew n bite my ears and dry hump me brab my dick and he never seem to pop a boner at all! When I would he would like tease me! lol

 

[p700granat]

I think he's straight!
some guys are like so secure about their sexuality!
Like one of my friends I had a crush on would chew n bite my ears and dry hump me brab my dick and he never seem to pop a boner at all! When I would he would like tease me! lol

Don't you just hate it when they are like that? But in the same time they're so cute and adorable that make it so hard to hate them?

I'm in a really bad mood right now. I was coding (writing computer program) for a final project until about an hour and half ago with two other people. It was due six hours ago at 10PM Friday but we tried to finish it with some points off for lateness. In the end we still couldn't get the damn thing fully working, and decided to hand in whatever we have, which would definitely get us most of the points. The thing that really pissed me off is we all missed a major dance party because of that. Now I don't really party much, but I really wanted to go that one because most of my friends were there, and for me the last big party in college where I could see them all. And I missed it, while in the same time turned in the project late, and without fully finishing it.

When I finally got down stairs to the lounge the there're only a few people left, including my furry friend. He was also working on the same project with two other people, but they gave up much earlier, handed in the not-working version before the due time and went to the party. And when he saw me obviously pissed off, he tried to comfort me, with words and with his usually feely-touchieness, even more so than usually. You imagine that would make me feel better, but no, I'm not sure why. That all together was just a little too much for me. I mean the whole thing is really not a big deal when I think about it, but one by one they just got me into a pretty damn bad mood. It was probably a best time to get drunk but I didn't have alcohol around, which further infuriated me. I guess I still do that later today (Saturday), when I wake up and hopefully get rid of the bad mood.

Anyway, that was some stupid rant. Sorry about that and I'm going to bed.

 

[tommyj]

Wow get wasted with him tonite - its Saturday!

 

[foxtrot_mike]

Sound hot.

There have been lots of occasions when I have been in a similar situation, for example we used to sit beside each other ie on the bus or car and discreetly like to have our legs pressed together, sometimes with shorts on feeling our warm soft legs rubbing against each other, similarly with our arms.

Once a frined of mine came around to stay and in the evening alone we would enjoy a little body contact and touching occationally and at one point i was feeling his legs for some time, it didnt go any further than that for a reason I cant remember but I wish It had.

 

[p700granat]

So things happened last night. We had a bottle of wine (from Oregon) together. Not enough to get either of us drunk, just a little light-headed. We had some great conversation, followed by a not-so-great movie. And then some R-rated actions ensued, for the first time . Not exactly like in the porn but it turns out we are quite complementary to each other in that regard . We didn't get up until almost 3pm today lol!

Also yesterday I saw my furry friend shirtless for the first time. I was going to meet my gay friend for lunch but he saw me as I go down stairs and asked me to wait for him and two others to go to lunch together. He then changed from his pajamas and stuff right in front of me . Not bad at all for us computer science nerds who rarely go to the gym. But since I told my gay friend to meet at the dining hall at 1pm, I had to leave them before they're ready to go, to my furry friend's obvious displeasure. They arrived and saw me not long after I sat down with my gay friend, and joined us for lunch. It was a bit awkward in the beginning: I could see my gay friend trying hard not to burst into laughter as he saw me getting poked, and my furry friend keeps giving me and him weird looks, obviously unsure why I left them to meet with this "friend of mine from sophomore year".

 

[FrankMillersTylerSophia]

HA! THe furry is totally going to come post on here about liking some guy and not being able to tell him because he was "Straight", but then he saw his unattainable man with a dude he "knows" is so gay and now he thinks he missed his chance. And he will get all sorts of advice, and meanwhile no one will ever realize you are both on here.

I am probably just thinking about to many romantic comedies I should be embarrassed to have watched, it isn't at all realistic, but reading the latest update that just seems inevitable. I cant get over thinking this furry guy wants you. I know you are sure he doesn't like you in real life, but at least the text version of this guy definitely wants your balls.

 

[moto]

HA! THe furry is totally going to come post on here about liking some guy and not being able to tell him because he was "Straight", but then he saw his unattainable man with a dude he "knows" is so gay and now he thinks he missed his chance. And he will get all sorts of advice, and meanwhile no one will ever realize you are both on here.

^im thinking exactly the same thing!! yeah so what if your furry friend turns out to be interested in you, thats gonna reeaaaaaaally interesting huh?? ^

so i just read this whole thread, and men it feels good to actually feel like i can totally relate to you
(i had the same experience with a straight guy in the past, but im so over it now and got myself my own boyfriend, which is another issue! hehe)
and ive read a number of threads having the same concern, but yours is just great. thank you for keeping as all updated and letting us know how things turned out. And now your totally moving on and giving advice to other guys

im so proud of how you handled things, its like reading my story in flashback

and im not that old! im only 21 and still in the closet while having a secret relationship with a hot guy for 11months now.

so i feel like your going the same path i did, and i just can totally relate to how your brain always taking over, and being in the closet and your experiences etc....

you know what, uhm . . ah. . . well i dont really know hehe, i just have some issues going on right now that you might have in the near future-you know being in a relationship while still hiding in the closet and all the other minor complications. sometimes being in the closet and school/work related stress can affect you big time . . ow wat em i saying... well bottom line is Good Luck on your "journey" being a 21 and closet gay is such a long-confusing-exciting-sad-sexy-whatever you wanna call it -journey


.....................(sigh)

 

[p700granat]

What happened last Saturday in the dining hall had totally just repeated tonight in one of our late-night eateries. I haven't talked to my gay friend since last Sunday so we decided to meet and have some snacks together. I arrived first, got my food, and sat down in one of the tables. Then four of my friends including the one with a tail appeard, and saw me. I was pretty surprised because I intentionally arrived about 40 minutes earlier than I (and they) usually go there. While they were getting food, I moved to a smaller table, good for only 2 people. Well that was not able prevent them from joining me, as they moved a tables and some chairs and sat with me, leaving no seat for who I was expecting. I was kind of freaked out for a few minutes, not sure what to do, giving my friends these really unwilling looks as they sat down, and twice walked away from the table for some random, made-up reasons. One of them noticed that and said, "hmm, XX seemed unhappy to see us today", for which my furry friend replied, "yeah, his totally trying to run away from us". Then my gay friend arrived, got some food, looked at us hesitantly for a few secs and moved a chair to the edge of table and sat right next to me (the only space avaiable since I was almost surrounded).

So again I was in this situation where the furry was sitting on one side and my gay friend the other side. I feel bad for my gay friend because I was planning to the spend the time with him, so I tried to chat mostly with him, and join the group only when they're talking about something that everyone's interested in. It was kind of awkward, but the weired looks from my furry friend made it a lot more uncomfortable for me. I observed my other friends at the table, and they all seemed oblivious and didn't give us those kind of weired looks. He also started poking me and doing things with one of my arms (grabbed and almost bit it) and knees. Now these are not unsual by itself, but today it's very obvious that his trying to grab my attention while I was talking to my gay friend. It got to a point that really annoyed me (and I was rarely annoyed by his feely-touchieness) and I yelled at him "STOP THAT", and then said "kids, don't disturb when two adults are talking". Even that was not able to stop him. My gay friend just sat amused (I told him all about the furry before), but I really felt bad as I'm not sure if he's actually somewhat displeased with what's going on between me and my furry friend.

A few things may have been changed by this event. My furry friend had most likely sensed that something's going on between me and my gay friend (who btw is not actually a "stereotypical", out gay). He also appared to be much more attention-needy than I realized before, and I am suspecting that he has been doing all these physical stuff to me because he discovered such things can attract my attention. And now he's somewhat pissed off as he lost a source of attention. Oh well...

 

[p700granat]

My furry friend is leaving for the summer break tomorrow, and since I'm graduating it's likely I'll not see him again after tomorrow, at least in the foreseeable future. He will be working as an summer intern in a software company in the San Francisco Bay Area starting in June, where I'll be working as a full-time in another software company starting mid-July. He said yesterday that he'd like to hang out when we are there, but since we'll be an hour and half away, I'm not sure if that's going to happen.

He had become a lot more physical than usual in past couple of days, such as almost alway put his arms around my shoulders when we walking together, and I know I'm going to miss that. Also yesterday when a few of us were talking about a movie we saw in our lounge, and I said I left early because I couldn't find a place to sit, my furry friend said I should have sat on his lap! It's too late! I thought I'd leave with a firm understanding that he's straight and not interested in me, but now I think he'll be a question mark in my memory forever.

So unless anything dramatic happens in the next couple of hours, this will probably be the last update about my furry friend. I'm also thinking of posting here a picture of his tail (no face revealed) which he had on facebook so that people who have been reading my thread could know what I've been dealing with for the whole time. I believe it's not against JUB policy to post that but I'm not sure.

 

[KaraBulut]

Well, you could always get a picture of you sitting in his lap. That would be a fun way to end this thread.

Congrats on graduating.

 

[p700granat]

So that's it. He left a few hours ago. I managed not to show too much emotion, just a friendly tap on his shoulder and said "have a safe trip home". He did the same, and said we should keep in touch and try to meet up in the Bay Area in the summer. But I feel it's probably a good time to move on. Just had dinner with my gay friend and had a good chat.

Well, you could always get a picture of you sitting in his lap. That would be a fun way to end this thread.

Unfortunately I don't have a pic of me in his lap. There are a few pics of me with him in funny positions, but all reveals his face so I'll just post this one with his tail (admins, feel free to remove it if it's against the rules). Enjoy, and thank you all for the advices and support these two months.