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Explosions, shootings reported in central Paris

As usual with western people, Africa doesn't exist at all because the news doesn't press it directly into their eyeballs. No oil there, after all. Or white people. So we can very conveniently not talk about what the Christian regimes have been doing there to people-- often with the missionary & financial & political international support of Christian organizations based in the U.S. and western countries.

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Not particularly. Not above the account of anyone else anyway, especially those in Paris at the time.

I've since made a separate thread, but her words were historic.
 
The world is doomed. These people will continue to attack until they have forcefully converted us all to Islam. What will help them along? Extreme political correctness that dictates that we're supposed to lay back and let it all happen otherwise we're racists.
 
My solution is not remotely to eradicate the religion. You're putting words in my mouth.

You're also avoiding answering my question.

Two-parter:

What is your solution to tackling and destroying ISIS in 2016, 2017, 2018?

What is your solution to preventing in people's minds the ideology of extreme Islamist jihadist hatred?

In response to the second question, I'd suggest that Western countries stop trying to create puppet regimes in the Middle East, stop arming the ally-of-the-moment (because they turn into tomorrow's enemies), and stop sending drones into the Middle East to kill civilians.
 
In response to the second question, I'd suggest that Western countries stop trying to create puppet regimes in the Middle East, stop arming the ally-of-the-moment (because they turn into tomorrow's enemies), and stop sending drones into the Middle East to kill civilians.

Thank you for saying it so succinctly and adroitly.

Let's not forget there was serious discussion of arming ISIS at one point, when they were a fringe splinter group and the Syrian government was aligned only with Russia and ISIS was fighting it. Wouldn't that have turned out to be a great idea?
 
The world is doomed. These people will continue to attack until they have forcefully converted us all to Islam. What will help them along? Extreme political correctness that dictates that we're supposed to lay back and let it all happen otherwise we're racists.

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I was trying to find the thread where we were all outraged and Madonna was crying over the killings of hundreds and hundreds of people by ISIS, PKK and western bombers this past month in Syria and Turkey...can someone remind me where it might be?
 
You always get these lone nutcases doing stuff like this. It doesn't reflect anything.

I wonder if gsdx knows about this and if it was near to him. He lives in Peterborough.

There was a case over here in the U.K. of someone leaving a pig's head at the entrance to a mosque, and another one of someone who put strips of bacon on a door handle or something. Someone got a jail sentence over it.

Far more relevant and pertinent is that Canada is part of the coalition air strikes. Is your new prime minister supportive of this action, or is he seeking to withdraw Canada from the fight against ISIS?



We can talk history of religions until the cows come home, but what is important right now is what's happening in 2015 and what the years to come might hold.

The future is one of increasing agnosticism and increasing Christian secularisation, in sharp contrast to increasing Muslim extremism, radicalisation, sectarian violence, bloodshed, and war.

Even if we followed rareboy and embraced pacifism and stood down our military, and even if all Western nations withdrew completely, do you seriously think the problem of ISIS would ever magically disappear?

We'll be witnessing their slaughter for decades to come. We can either sit around and watch and do nothing, or we can try to ACT to defeat them.

You haven't been paying attention. Our new Prime Minister has withdrawn our jets from bombing missions because that is what the majority of Canadians want. Canada is returning to our more traditional role of providing humanitarian assistance. We realize that bombing the fuck out of innocent civilians and destroying the infrastructure of a country has diminishing returns.

Given Tony Blair's apology for getting Britain mired in the Iraq clusterfuck because he and George Bush secretly decided to 'spread democracy' and bomb themselves rich....maybe Britain should be re-evaluating why, since Churchill helped create the mess in the Middle East we all have to live with today....the nation persists with being another mercenary for Saudi Arabia in a sectarian religious civil war in the mid-east.

In the meantime.....yay Canada for showing those muslims in Peterborough how tolerant we are.
 
I don't know what your point is . . .

Rhetorical post?

People who think buddhism can be judged by buddhism today are pretty clueless

I'd argue that it is simple. Amerocentric and Brit progressives wanted a counterculture philosophy that would reject the dominant culture and its religion. They chose Buddhism, or a strain of it, in the 19th century and over time, Zen Buddhism prevailed at the philosophy of choice.

The movement was uncomfortable with religion itself, so redefined Buddhism as philosophic, ignoring the very real and majority adherent practice of worshipping actual gods, not merely "seeing them as symbols only" which is the mantra in the West.

Likewise, since the Western Zen practicioners adopted only a sliver of larger Buddhism, they distanced themselves from the thousands of years of Buddhist history, replete with genocides and massacres which were conducted alongside. That doesn't make Buddhism evil, only another religion as incapable of stopping human atrocities as the next religion.
 
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Good grief JUB is full of defeatists..this place making me really questioning motives of some people here..ck ck :##:
 
Are you seriously advocating a repeat of an incredible historical injustice?

incredible historical injustice..yeah sure. What era we live today? We can learn from past and throw better management to those migrants..complete with surveillance cam, refugee testimonies, security guards, etc..

if my quarantine muslims- program might sounds unrealistic to you because of the Saudis, then I do think so. They play pivotal role aren't they Saudis?^^
 
No deaie, what you two mentioned is history, in the past. Everyone else is witnessing the present so we can prepare for the future. Do try to keep up.

According to source I read: we need more dead BODIES than just a mere 129 something..need more bodies to make the blinds see...
 
O yea..this page also need this copy:

Let’s see if I understand this correctly...
-The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
-The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
-The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
-The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
-The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
-The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
-The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
-The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
-The Moscow Theater Attackers were Muslims
-The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
-The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
-The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
-The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
-The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
-The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
-The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
-The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
-The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
-The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
-The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
-The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
-The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
-The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
-The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
-The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims

Think of it:

Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confucians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

***WHEREAS...

Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

***SO THIS LEADS TO...

They're not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan

***So, where are they happy?...

They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in Norway & India

They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!

And who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves...
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!

And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally they will get hammered !!!!

Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR DIRECTIVE
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION AND A LOT MORE !!!!!!!

I'm sorry, I'm completely stumped...... Any idea who's causing the problem???
 
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Good grief JUB is full of defeatists..this place making me really questioning motives of some people here..ck ck :##:

Last I checked, the western nations are still bombing the shit out of the Middle East....and manufacturing more terrorists each day. Just like we've been doing for the last 100 years.

Who says we're giving up?
 
If the republicans would stop being down on Obama and America by politicizing his every decision there would be peace.
But why would they do that, they can attack a black man and call for more war spending at the same time. Who cares how many French people die as long as that military spending keeps going up. Republicans want America to be afraid. Big governments love big crisis, they can rip apart domestic rules easier.
 
O yea..this page also need this copy:

Sometimes, doing one's own thinking, and doing one's own research can help to prevent one from making a fool of oneself.

On the first section you quote, you may want to check the figures and compute the percentages of the terrorist attacks in the EU which were committed by non-Muslims. They might surprise you, although I suspect the surprise would be unwelcome, and I've noted over the years that the ignorant often don't really care to be enlightened.

In the entire second section you quote what is labelled as being "no problem" is very often problematic, and close to half of the assertions are simply untrue, while many of the rest are at least questionable, to one degree or another.
 
On the first section you quote, you may want to check the figures and compute the percentages of the terrorist attacks in the EU which were committed by non-Muslims. They might surprise you, although I suspect the surprise would be unwelcome, and I've noted over the years that the ignorant often don't really care to be enlightened.

I've lived in Europe all my life and I'm well aware of the many many terrorist attacks by ETA and other radical secessionist groups, IRA, RARA, RAF (Baader-Meinhof Gruppe not the Royal Air Force), Mafia, Armenian, Maluku and Neo-Nazis to name but a few, but I'm still convinced Islamic terrorism is a great danger to our societies.

Consider what we've lost already in terms of civil liberties.
 
O yea..this page also need this copy:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

But of course we know that the terrorists are radical Islamists. Of course they are. They learned during the European colonization of North Africa and the middle east that terrorism is effective. They learned during the destruction of Palestine that terrorism is effective. They learned (quite literally) from the US during the proxy war with the USSR in Afghanistan that terrorism is effective. They learned during the partition of India that terrorism is effective.

There's not much question here.

And like the Sikhs and the Hindus terrorizing one another...or the Irish Republican Army terrorizing the Protestants in Great Britain....or Bader Meinhoff Red Army Faction terrorizing Germany, the Islamists know that nothing catches the attention of media and citizens like some good old fashioned slaughter. And over the years, Russia, China, the US, Britain and France, not to say Israel, India, and a host of African countries have all trained and financed terrorism in conflicts all around the globe. Covertly and overtly.

And it is all of this and all of that, that has resulted in us being where we are today.

Which is a sad day. It isn't as sad as at the height of the Second World War where the 'civilized' western nations were slaughtering one another by the millions between 1938 and 1945....but it isn't nearly as out of control as that period either.

What most people today lack is simple perspective...and certainly...as I can guarantee in your case, the understanding and perhaps even the ability to understand how each point in time is simply the culmination of centuries of historical conflicts....and tomorrow and next week and next year it will still be the same. We are doomed to keep fighting 3500 year old tribal war against one another until we finally discard all religious cults and bronze age texts and antiquated ideologies.

The one thing to bear in mind is that the WWI...only 100 year ago, was the conflict between the medieval and the modern mass industrial age. Many parts of the world have never experienced this scale of upheaval until the last few decades and many rural tribal societies still have yet to come into this same age.

Europe, America and much of Asia did not get to 2015 without some of the most breath-takingly savage conflict in the past 100 years that no one on this board carrying on about 129 people killed in Paris can even begin to comprehend. It is a testament to the resilience and adaptabilty through capitulation that now allows us all to live in relative harmony with one another.

There may be yet hundreds of thousands of lives lost before the different sects of Islam reach that accommodation with each other and with the rest of the world as well.

That is the simple harsh reality.
 
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