Faggotty Me!

[StationToStation]

Wow, this week I'm really playing my gay karma card! Earlier this week I was called a faggot, at work of all places.

So today on the MAX, a couple enters the train and continues their conversation about how transexuals, and lesbians, and gay men are not natural behaviors/people. Of course right in front of me!

Yes, I'm that flame-red hair highlighted, uber make-up artist, Chanel sunglasses wearing faggot on the train.

I have to say, in a short and sweet way, that us faggots who stick out, get all the heat. I don't want to be straight acting, I don't want to be discreet, I don't want be a man's man, I'm not "bisexual."

I can handle it! The kitchen is hot, and I'm staying.

Granted, I didn't join in on their convo, since it would have not have solved anything. Instead I reapplied my lip moisturizer, ran my fingers though my lovely locks, kicked up my feet and gave a big fat yawn. I could careless, what you think is natural or unnatural as far as sexuality.

It's great not to feel threatened by these types anymore. My confidence comes from an internal place, not an external one. I don't need a straight couples seal of approval, cos I'm faggoty me, and I wouldn't settle for less. I respect all you other out and happy gay people.

 

[josher]

Good for you!

Stay true to yourself and ignore the ignorant, especially those at JUB.

 

[nafhoosier]

Wow, this week I'm really playing my gay karma card! Earlier this week I was called a faggot, at work of all places.

So today on the MAX, a couple enters the train and continues their conversation about how transexuals, and lesbians, and gay men are not natural behaviors/people. Of course right in front of me!

Yes, I'm that flame-red hair highlighted, uber make-up artist, Chanel sunglasses wearing faggot on the train.

I have to say, in a short and sweet way, that us faggots who stick out, get all the heat. I don't want to be straight acting, I don't want to be discreet, I don't want be a man's man, I'm not "bisexual."

I can handle it! The kitchen is hot, and I'm staying.

Granted, I didn't join in on their convo, since it would have not have solved anything. Instead I reapplied my lip moisturizer, ran my fingers though my lovely locks, kicked up my feet and gave a big fat yawn. I could careless, what you think is natural or unnatural as far as sexuality.

It's great not to feel threatened by these types anymore. My confidence comes from an internal place, not an external one. I don't need a straight couples seal of approval, cos I'm faggoty me, and I wouldn't settle for less. I respect all you other out and happy gay people.

I think this is a great post.

Good for you for being who you are not giving a shit!

 

[JB1986]

Damn, you go boy!

 

[gdude30]

You're awesome Dark Aquarius

I was wondering how you were doing. Well I'm glad you are still strong and doing well. GO TEAM BLUE!

 

[MystikWizard]

Yes, I'm that flame-red hair highlighted, uber make-up artist, Chanel sunglasses wearing faggot on the train.

The kind that contributes to the stereotype of Effeminate Gay Men. I see. The kind of stereotype that I really wish would end, to be frank.

I have to say, in a short and sweet way, that us faggots who stick out, get all the heat.

I hate to say it, but if you want to stick out and flaunt yourself in public ... then you are just asking for it. I'm glad you are willing to take it, but I seriously wish that this image wouldn't be attached to the other Gay Men out there who only want to blend in with the public ... in an effort to show Heterosexuals that we are just like them in every way, except Orientation.

I don't want to be straight acting, I don't want to be discreet, I don't want be a man's man, I'm not "bisexual."

I can handle it! The kitchen is hot, and I'm staying.

Again, that's good that you want to stand up for yourself. It's just unfortunate that the rest of us Gay Men have to pay the price and live with this stereotype, simply because you want to "stand out". It is this image that fuels the prejudices of Heteros ... which ultimately makes it more difficult for other Gay men to come out.

 

[josher]

^^Yeah, like those drags queens who stood up to the police 40 years ago at The Stonewall and began what came to be called Gay Liberation.

Who'd want to be associated with them?

And then there are all those feminine men from Act-Up who got the government off its ass to respond to the AIDS crisis in the 80s.

Who'd want to be associated with them?

Me, that's for sure.

But apparently not you.

 

[MystikWizard]

^^Yeah, like those drags queens who stood up to the police 40 years ago at The Stonewall and began what came to be called Gay Liberation.

Who'd want to be associated with them?

And then there are all those feminine men from Act-Up who got the government off its ass to respond to the AIDS crisis in the 80s.

Who'd want to be associated with them?

Me, that's for sure.

But apparently not you.

That's absolutely correct. I don't want to be associated with them. They give Gays a negative, stereotypical image which further increases the hatred of Gays and makes it even more difficult to fit in with the public.

If the Queens out there didn't feel the need to flaunt themselves in public, chances are that we wouldn't nearly have the negative Effeminate image that are attached to so many of us ... which would undoubtedly make coming out a lot easier.

It's no wonder Gay Men are given such a negative stereotypical image. Again, we have those people to thank for making it more difficult than it really should be.

 

[bripatrick]

I think it takes WAY too much work to pretend to be something you're not. Why should someone have to change who they are just because it may fit into a stereotype?

 

[josher]

Oh, I see. MystikWizard,you're just another homophobe at JUB.

What a sad, sad post.

Well, just one more basher to put on ignore.

 

[sabot3ur]

Again, we have those people to thank for making it more difficult than it really should be.

making what difficult?

you control your own life, no one being who they are (or putting on a silly front) can make anything more difficult for you.

 

[MystikWizard]

I think it takes WAY too much work to pretend to be something you're not. Why should someone have to change who they are just because it may fit into a stereotype?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it takes more work to dye your hair Red, wear makeup, etc. as opposed to acting like a normal guy. Maybe that's just me, though.

No, people are going to do what they are going to do. I don't have to like it though. And it does make me very angry, because these are the people who help contribute to making the process of coming out, more difficult than it really needs to be. This image reinforces the stereotype that society has of Gay Men. I just don't appreciate it a single bit.

Oh, I see. MystikWizard,you're just another homophobe at JUB.

What a sad, sad post.

Well, just one more basher to put on ignore.

Yeah, I know all about it. Anybody who disagrees with one thing some Gays may do is automatically labeled a "homophobe". I could simply say that I don't like women who try to flaunt themselves in public, either. Would you then automatically label me as a "misogynist"?

Spare me your criticism.

making what difficult?

you control your own life, no one being who they are (or putting on a silly front) can make anything more difficult for you.

At 2:54 in the morning, I am not going to get in a big discussion about this. Maybe tomorrow when I get back from helping my brother move, I will continue on with this discussion. However, my opinion isn't changing, so it's probably fruitless.

 

[gdude30]

You know MystikWizard.

Unfortunately you are one of those who can fall victim to the "I'm going to live my life like a straight man"

There used to be a group around before the Gay Movements really started. They were the Mattachines or something like that. All they did was dress like the heterosexuals, behaved in a very calm and serious manner, and only marched. No rioting or fighting. They got nowhere. It wasn't until gays started actually showing their colors and than stonewall for the gay movement to get started and gay groups and organizations starting around the country.

And furthermore. What you are doing pleases heterosexuals and people who want to change us because you know why?

By doing that you are giving into them and being exactly like them and EXACTLY like they want us to be. You are giving them the control and power. They don't deserve it.

By being a hairdresses, wearing drag, being a leatherman, or acting feminine or being loud and different is just a big "FUCK YOU" to them that they don't like.

So yes it does piss them off. But after all that society has done to gays. Do you really just want to go, "Oh I want to be just like them"

Now if you really aren't part of the "Gay Community" like you are trying to say than that's fine. You don't have to be. However, don't criticize us or blame us who put ourselves out there and show all our colors and go "FUCK YOU" to those who want to change us or don't want our existence to be known.

Sorry for not backing down and giving into what people want of us.

But that doesn't mean you should blame us. Because you know what. Eventually people are going to figure out, "Some gays are normal straight acting people. And some are flaming homos that are loud, wear drag, leather, or feminine and I suppose that's just the way the world is and that's that."

You are correct though. We do give gays a bad name and make people think we are perverts, feminine, or odd. And I bet a lot of us are damn proud of it. Girlfriend.

 

[StlKj]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it takes more work to dye your hair Red, wear makeup, etc. as opposed to acting like a normal guy. Maybe that's just me, though.

No, people are going to do what they are going to do. I don't have to like it though. And it does make me very angry, because these are the people who help contribute to making the process of coming out, more difficult than it really needs to be. This image reinforces the stereotype that society has of Gay Men. I just don't appreciate it a single bit.





Yeah, I know all about it. Anybody who disagrees with one thing some Gays may do is automatically labeled a "homophobe". I could simply say that I don't like women who try to flaunt themselves in public, either. Would you then automatically label me as a "misogynist"?

Spare me your criticism.




At 2:54 in the morning, I am not going to get in a big discussion about this. Maybe tomorrow when I get back from helping my brother move, I will continue on with this discussion. However, my opinion isn't changing, so it's probably fruitless.

I'd rather sit next to the OP while he applies his lip moisturizer in public any day, than sit next to you trying to appear all butch to placate a bunch of people who don't give a shit whether or not you're straight acting. The ones who really don't like us don't care how we are--they don't like what we are. Whether you're a fem or a butch, you're still just a queer to them.

 

[treanir]

Excellent post, StationtoStation! Keep on being you!

And that's the whole point here: to be you, not someone society wants you to be. And if 'you' is the "flame-red hair highlighted, uber make-up artist, Chanel sunglasses wearing faggot", then that's the person you should be. If, on the other hand, you're a suit-and-tie guy whom no-one would peg as gay, that's perfectly fine too.

It all goes wrong when you're trying to be something you're not. I've seen straight-acting guys. You can see the femininity just begging to come out. On the other hand there are also those who feel they should be a hip-swishing homo in order to fit in, so they camp it up against their own personalities. Both don't work in the long run.

 

[bripatrick]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it takes more work to dye your hair Red, wear makeup, etc. as opposed to acting like a normal guy. Maybe that's just me, though.

I can't say it's just you, but I disagree with you. Look at what you just wrote: "acting like a normal guy." Normal to you seems to be fitting into what you consider to be acceptable behavior, appearance, etc. for a man. For someone who clearly just does not possess whatever qualities you perceive with being a "normal guy" to be told to stop perpetuating a stereotype which just-so-happens to be who he is is a bit hypocritical, no?

Your choice of hair color, clothes, etc. is not who you are; it's a reflection of who you are. And no, I don't think putting in a bottle of Garnier to color your hair is really a whole lot of work. Straight men, women...all sorts of people change their hair color and wear some kind of makeup.

 

[Ares]

in an effort to show Heterosexuals that we are just like them in every way, except Orientation.

Heterosexuals aren't all the same. Some wear makeup, dye their hair, and stick out.

The people in your life will recognize that you don't fit that stereotype anyway, since they can see you are not doing these things.

 

[mega]

Just when I think the hell with it, lets just pack it up and go home, I'm meet someone like the OP. Thanks honey, keep up the good work.

 

[Corny]

Again, that's good that you want to stand up for yourself. It's just unfortunate that the rest of us Gay Men have to pay the price and live with this stereotype, simply because you want to "stand out".

It's not about standing out, it's about being who you are. If you are a damn effeminate boy .. so you are. Whether you are gay or straight doesn't matter - yes there are straight effeminate guys. But they don't dare to live it, they do the straight-acting thing (it's called acting for a reason .. ) and become unhappy persons. I don't go well with effeminate men either .. so what? I don't go well with beer-belly-macho-long-haired straight guys either, and so do many other straight guys. Never heard anyone of them telling them or football hooligans or whomever that they give straights or just men in general a bad stereotype.
I recently posted this in another thread - stereotypes are existent for a reason. A stereotype is the most significant (in whatever terms) representation of a group. You are an american. You must be fat because you eat at McDonalds all the time. Als you must be very uneducated and unable to distinguish China from Russia on a world map. Are you feeling upset now? Probably - because it's a stereotype, and everybody knows that not *all* of you are like that. Do you go around at McDonalds and try to stop those people from eating there because they are advocating a stereotype about americans? I don't think so. So stop trying to advocate other gay people on how they should live their lives ..

 

[jackoroe]

You know, I'm a terribly dull person. I don't wear makeup or do drag. I can't decorate worth a shit and I hate to shop.

But I love men. I've lived a fairly open life with my partner for 10 years. My neighbors know us to be gay and are very accepting. Too fucking bad for them, if they weren't.

But what about people who live their lives differently? What about those who do drag, makeup and all the other variations of the gay life? I admittedly don't understand the attraction to some of what they do, but it isn't my place to judge what others may like, so long as they don't hurt anyone else in the process.

Do these folks hurt or help our cause for equality? Well, I'm sure my neighbors enjoy the fact that I don't have circuit parties in the yard every weekend. They appreciate my homogenous lifestyle. I don't live my life the way I do for their approval, but because I want to. Everybody isn't me, nor should they be. Further, they shouldn't have less rights than I do, because they aren't.

So, while I may not understand or appreciate what some of us do, I support your right to be how ever you want to be. And you should be treated no different than anybody else.