Fascination of Grown Gay Men with Boy Bands/Justin Bieber

[gsdx]

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Take a look at the Justin Bieber thread in the Celebrity forum. It's rather frightening to see what some of those 'fans' there would do with him. One of the most recent fantasies by an 'experienced man' is "fucking him into submission". I never cared for Justin's music, and I hate what he has become, but even he doesn't deserve to be raped, not even in a fantasy.

 

[rareboy]

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I try to live my life without prejudice and without judging people. So when I find that something confuses or disgusts me, I try to understand it. It's an opportunity to learn and remove some bias and ignorance from my perspective.

That leads me to the obsession with Justin Beiber, One Direction and boy bands, boy artists of similar age.

I am not a fan of Gaga or Beyonce or Madonna but I understand why some gay men might obsess over them. Not for me, but I get it. However, I just don't understand the obsession with these borderline prepubescent boys... and I need someone to explain it to me. Because there are some guys (mostly here on JUB or online though) that express some desires and thoughts that make me think "pedophilia" and I just don't want to think that way about someone who is probably just a normal person.

So could someone enlighten me? I'm not looking for any insults or condemnation. I just truly want to understand and since there seem to be a lot of JUBbers who love these guys, I thought this is the best place to ask.

One of the things you might keep in mind is that for some of the twinks swooning over One Direction or the Beebz...it is because they have grown into adulthood right along with them. I doubt if most guys over 25 even care the least about these pop bubblegum 'stars'.

 

[bankside]

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It wasn't that long ago that 19 year olds were getting married and starting families, or at the very least, moving out.

Now, the economy has changed and people spend many more years completing their education. They're staying in the family home to an older age. But we seem to have forgotten that young adults are actually adults.

 

[LuckysRevenge]

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One of the things you might keep in mind is that for some of the twinks swooning over One Direction or the Beebz...it is because they have grown into adulthood right along with them. I doubt if most guys over 25 even care the least about these pop bubblegum 'stars'.

I guess I was perusing some forums here at JUB and other places and was shocked at older men and the comments they were making. But should not take that as representative of anything.

 

[palbert]

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Not bad to look at.

With the sound off.

 

[nycguydowntown]

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I think it's creepy when an older guy is exclusively obsessed with young twinks let alone a boy band--that is just crazy-----and is not interested at all in guys his own age or older.

 

[gsdx]

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I think it's creepy when an older guy is exclusively obsessed with young twinks let alone a boy band--that is just crazy-----and is not interested at all in guys his own age or older.

Is it creepy when younger guys are exclusively obsessed with older guys? There are guys like that, you know.

 

[sixthson]

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There is just something creepy about guys in their 40s being attracted to guys that young, even if they are legal.

 

[sixthson]

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Is it creepy when younger guys are exclusively obsessed with older guys? There are guys like that, you know.

Assuming the younger is not just attracted to older guys as sugar daddies who will take care of them, there are lots of reasons why younger guys find older guys appealing, such as maturity, life experience, stability, etc. I still highly doubt many can make this kind of relationship work with the age difference. For the older guy who is attracted to younger, it seems to be more a physical attraction with youth and sex. For older guys attracted to boy band members, it is definitely all about youth and sex. Period. What else could it be?

 

[G-Lexington]

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It seems everywhere we look, the barely-legals are held up as the epitome of sexual desirability...but we're going to call it "creepy" when somebody over the age of 30 (re: dead) actually IS attracted to people that age?

Cross-generational relationships are quite common. Are they prone to failure? Perhaps somewhat more than others, but then again, what percentage of same-age-bracket relationships fail? If it last a year, five years, ten years, was it a failure? I do think people in such relationships need to be aware of the potential pitfalls, but I also think other people need to stop being such judgmental pricks.

Lex

 

[Alnitak]

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Is it creepy when younger guys are exclusively obsessed with older guys? There are guys like that, you know.

Touche....

 

[zombiekiller]

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Assuming the younger is not just attracted to older guys as sugar daddies who will take care of them, there are lots of reasons why younger guys find older guys appealing, such as maturity, life experience, stability, etc. I still highly doubt many can make this kind of relationship work with the age difference. For the older guy who is attracted to younger, it seems to be more a physical attraction with youth and sex. For older guys attracted to boy band members, it is definitely all about youth and sex. Period. What else could it be?

I beg to differ. If you look at my last 4 boyfriends, you would definitely think I have some kind of boy fetish. My current one is 22. My last one was 23. The one before that was 20. And the one before that was 23. But what about the 38 year old before that? Or the 60 year old a few years ago?

We seek out what's available to us.

By the way, I'm not attracted to lesbians. Which is why I'm not attracted to Justin Bieber at all. Ewww...

 

[zombiekiller]

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There is just something creepy about guys in their 40s being attracted to guys that young, even if they are legal.

Love has no age boundaries. Back when I was 25ish (can't remember exactly when), I dated a guy that was in his 60's. People left and right were telling me I was being molested and it was creepy. Why? One guy even told me the fact that I was Asian and so I looked years younger than my age made it worse. Why? Why are we so obsessed with the age differences?

Every time my boyfriend and I go to the bars, we'd get a few looks here and there. I know what they're thinking. I'm 30, and my boyfriend is 22. He looks like he's 19, though. People look at us with disgust. Why?

I dated a guy once that looked like he was like 15 even though he was my age at the time (around 25ish). He always had trouble going into the bars because people wouldn't believe his ID was real. Looking back, I'm glad nobody called the cops on us.

 

[eddielee]

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I don't pass judgement on people that like younger guys, as long as they are not underaged. The only "boyband" I've ever care for is the Backstreet Boys, but then again, they are hardly boys and not far from my age. If guys my age happen to like Bieber or One Direction, more power to them. When I was 18, I dated a guy in his mid 40's because I was attracted to him. Now that I'm much older, I would not date a guy much younger than me, but I don't condemn guys who do.

 

[Kulindahr]

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Assuming the younger is not just attracted to older guys as sugar daddies who will take care of them, there are lots of reasons why younger guys find older guys appealing, such as maturity, life experience, stability, etc. I still highly doubt many can make this kind of relationship work with the age difference. For the older guy who is attracted to younger, it seems to be more a physical attraction with youth and sex. For older guys attracted to boy band members, it is definitely all about youth and sex. Period. What else could it be?

This is the sort of ignorance that perpetuates all sorts of negative stereotypes about gay men. I'd see it reveals a lot about the writer -- like, an obsession with youth and sex.

These have more insight:

Love Liam from One Direction, know nothing about him except what he looks like, and apart from the song below i've never listened to a song all the way through, have no plans to see them in concert for follow them on twitter, etc etc.

Would love to be in his position though.

That last is certainly true for many gay men with a fascination for the younger, though perhaps not in the way Bender meant it. I had no clue who One Direction might be (I've never known who any group or band was until seriously after their fame had peaked -- fame and celebrity have never been of much interest to me), so I looked them up. And many of the pictures slapped me across the mental face with the predominant feeling from my life all through my teen years: loneliness. How does that work? Well...

But, when you think about it, you must realize that many gay guys have been robbed of, or, cheated out of, the chance at having a normal (out of hiding) childhood, and what should have been the happy teen years that most straight kids are [almost] granted - the guys (kids) who were shoved deepest into the closet lost/missed out the most. They had to do their growing up as someone else.

I'd imagine a good many grown gay men might enjoy these shows/stars you're talking about, perhaps in vicarious/by proxy kind of ways that have little to do with any sexual desires - just being happy for, and watching, a kid who gets to be loved and can enjoy himself.

Like many gay men I've gotten to know, the teen years were years of isolation, years of not understanding why they had to be different, years of resenting that they weren't "normal", years of not fitting in despite the best efforts to appear just like everyone else. Pictures of guys from that age group who look happy together ring bells that have nothing at all to do with sex -- in fact for my part, I would be delighted to just spend a weekend at the beach with (for example) One Direction, tossing a frisbee and wrestling in the sand and cavorting in the surf, but if any of them made sexual moves I'd most probably just be disgusted.

Beauty is a very important quality engrained into humans. That said, young is seen by the general public as beautiful. We aspire to keep a younger look. Sexuality is limited by numbers, contrary to what laws seem to state. I have never understood how someone can call sexual attraction towards someone who is sexually matured, pedophilia. It just doesn't make sense. If you look around the animal kingdom, I can't think of one example where another species takes age into consideration over sexual maturity.

Yes! The essence of the sex drive is to be attracted to those at the peak of their ability to reproduce. The mystery is why anyone should be attracted to any individual not in the age realm.

The reason, of course, is learned behavior. For those fortunate enough to have escaped the warped, perverted experience of growing up under cultural and religious oppression, their image of what is attractive ages with them, for the most part. For those who were twisted by the distorted view of themselves and reality that required them to put a great deal of their normal human development on hold, it isn't surprising at all that their attraction should be back to the 'time' when they were prevented from actually living.

That has to be hard to relate to for those who have lived with actual freedom to be themselves.

 

[rareboy]

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When I was in my late teens and twenties, I adored the attention of more mature (ie over 30) guys. One of the hottest and handsomest guys I ever hooked up with was about 60. And he had amazing stamina too.

I don't see why there is any issue with guy's in their 40's talking about wanting to fuck some One Direction member. Really. But I don't think it is very common.

 

[dereperez]

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Assuming the younger is not just attracted to older guys as sugar daddies who will take care of them, there are lots of reasons why younger guys find older guys appealing, such as maturity, life experience, stability, etc. I still highly doubt many can make this kind of relationship work with the age difference. For the older guy who is attracted to younger, it seems to be more a physical attraction with youth and sex. For older guys attracted to boy band members, it is definitely all about youth and sex. Period. What else could it be?

Youth, vitality, inexperience, a work-in-progress. Just like how a younger guy may be attracted to the experience of an older guy, who may represent a 'tutor' or 'teacher' to him....an older guy may be attracted to the inexperience of a younger guy, who may represent the 'student'. It could be a nurturing type of attraction without being flat-out sexual in all cases.

 

[vulgar_newcomer]

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idk, does Justin Beiber fans generate a quasi-violent "mosh pit" where kids crash into each others chests or body surf while young ladies sit high on shoulders lifting their shirts to expose their private parts? like at a Slipknot concert? idk

Nothing new here. However that genera of music has always been my fare, and its certainly not the shocking display of drama as shih Tzu Tylenol makes it seem in the quote above. Yet I can understand how they are sort of new fangled things to some people in 2013.
Mosh pits were smoking messes 25 yrs ago. We were doing this at slayer, Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, & Exodus in 1989 and 1990's. Mosh pits ruled the punk scene and true emo punk scene in the 1980's before I could ever even go to a club. Just spread out in the 1990's.

Woman were flashing there tits at Woodstock and everyone was nude dancing in the mud smoking pot and LSD. Woman were flashing there tits at The Beatles shows.

Just like the rest of this post is the same old same old . There must be a certain age at which people seem to forget their past and what the things were like in those various decades regarding music, entertainers, & pop culture. Or maybe they just never got out into these scenes? Technology changed a lot for the shut ins exposing them to things they wouldn't see as easy because there weren't 500 cable channels or even cable for many of people. Less time was spent on coverage because there wasn't the time. Unless it was Jim Morrison showing his cock in Miami. I bet Morrison had a lot of old fags hitting on him in his day to suck the lizard king off in the green room?
I don't know how this happens, is it dementia? Or some people getting on their moral high horse and these events didn't happen to former boy bands or singers of previous eras. At one time the Stones, Who, Beatles, etc were marketed in a boy band manner. Of course there were a lot of better examples of that same time period who were musically about the same as this post suggest and quickly disappeared.
Gay guys at the bar seemed to like Justin Timberlake and those boy bands way back in the 1990's just like they do today.

None of this type of music is something I personally follow.

To suggest that because some older adult guy is attracted to a entertainer who is younger adult thus connecting it with pedo is whacked shit. Nut jobs are always a threat rather male or female, straight or gay, young or old to any public entertainer but paranoia will destroy ya.

 

[gsdx]

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Personally, I simply do not see the appeal of such a vain, egotistical, hypocritical exhibitionist like Justin. For me, there has to be some personality behind the attraction, and Justin's personality is a complete turn-off for me, no matter how many times he flashes his ass or bares his chest.

 

[bike10]

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The boy bands are designed to please an audience of teen girls who go ape over the boys. Got to have at least on gay boy or two in the group. Look at early days of Ricky Martin my gaydar went off first time I saw Ricky and I was not wrong.