"Father builds 'child molester' sign to defend daughter"

[LeicsDom]

The age difference isn't much, nor is the 22yo being married – too young for the vows to stick/amount to much.

She is legally an adult in that state and 16 and 22 is hardly a huge age gap
The Father is laying himself open to a huge defamation suit
Also he is pushing the girl into her boyf's arms
He will lose her

 

[unloadonme]

... I can't even call it defamation of character as child molester isn't exactly an inappropriate term ...

I would say it's a highly inappropriate term. The girl was old enough to legally give consent. It'll be a field day for the libel lawyers.

 

[LeicsDom]

Has anyone read about Emmanuel Macron who may well be the next President of France? He started a relationship with his schoolteacher when he was 15 and she was 39. She's now his wife.

In the UK she would have been jailed for being an influential adult, i.e. teacher etc
If she had done anything with him before he was 18 it would be statutory rape

 

[luckynumbah7]

I would say it's a highly inappropriate term. The girl was old enough to legally give consent. It'll be a field day for the libel lawyers.

The issue with the laws and usa is they're different for every state. In my state he would've been jailed because it's considered statutory rape, as here 16 may consent with 16 but 16 doesn't have the basic maturity or knowledge of even the most below-average adult and as such, not a level playing field for consent to be on the table with an adult. A law I'm not particularly keen to change, as a matter of fact. I could see some wiggle room between 16-18 or thereabouts but wiggle room isn't the goal.

 

[luckynumbah7]

She is legally an adult in that state and 16 and 22 is hardly a huge age gap
The Father is laying himself open to a huge defamation suit
Also he is pushing the girl into her boyf's arms
He will lose her

16 and 22 is a tremendous age gap when talking about basic knowledge and maturity levels, that's like saying there's not much difference between ages 4-10; have you not regularly talked to either group when you weren't in the same category age-wise? Their goals are different and their conception of the world generally isn't even remotely similar.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

I mean, if we're going to bring up sexism and how it affects men in an article that didn't have sexism affecting men in a negative manner, (Unless you agree with a 22yr old fucking the 16yr old and think a parent being both skeeved and pissed is wrong) then I'm hearing echoes of "What about the Men", so let's be clear about it. Perhaps add some information to the commentary, maybe some statistics on age-range and common excuses adults like to use so they can fuck who they'd like with their very own emotional impunity. I'm sure some on the board will pop up any minute now, either declaring they were a special snowflake at sixteen or their lover was a special snowflake at sixteen. Or fourteen, or thirteen, or whatever age their considerably older ass wants to justify at the moment.

For the life of me I can't think of a socially-acceptable snickering mirror concept to the "if it bleeds/hit puberty ya'll can go to town". Possibly because guys are assumed to know their mind and subsequent actions. That's a definite detriment when tossing age into the mix because it's one hell of a false assumption. It's an assumption based on privilege, though, and that kind of "Men know what they want because being a Man is assumed competency" always has its downsides. As opposed to the "women don't know what they want, they need to be shown (by men). Or if you prefer, "They just need a good dick."

And one of those downsides is adults taking advantage of youth.

But again, if that's the topic of the conversation clarity is a virtue. Perhaps if you can beat it into the average skull that men aren't competent by virtue of their very existence and that women weren't some sort of product with an expiration date, you might get somewhere. Me, haven't figured out how to do that on a broad scale.

i think i'm in love with you

 

[Rickrock]

The father has opened himself up for a lawsuit. Even though men don't age emotionally as fast as women, that is too much of an age difference at that stage in their lives to be involved with each other, and that's not saying anything about the fact that he was married. The father probably went too far and it is unlikely (although not impossible) that it will help with his relationship with his daughter. I wonder if the 22 year old man's wife knew before this and what their relationship is like now. Although I sympathize with the father, I think that he went too far.

 

[luckynumbah7]

^^^I'm pretty sure women don't mature faster than men. Not at the 22yr vs a fucking measly 16, anyway. And a married 22 at that.

The brain is elastic and expectations breed experience because failing those particular expectations is not something most people consider contemplating beyond an eyeblink or three. Call it outside interference influencing the body (in this case, the brain) at least as much as the brain and body influence behavior. Boiled down, it's something along the lines of "you're responsible/be contained".

Call me highly suspicious

 

[luckynumbah7]

The joy of a cutoff, tho technically I suppose it could take a period and go.

The roundabout point was, men seem to assume competence as a 'right' while pretending it has the same definition as respect (it doesn't) and that, also, both are apparently inherited.

But somehow this blazing inherited competence that an abhorrent amount of guys lay claim to suddenly flies out the window! My bad, wait, no, it's only being laid claim to when it's 'advantageous to the situation'. Where'd it go, one wonders not-so-quietly to oneself. Surely the same adults that claim to be competent men and deal in adult matters don't suffer from a dearth of emotional understanding for adult issues and situations - the same ones they claim to be competent in?

which to me says if they're that emotionally incompetent then they really shouldn't be fucking anybody or hasn't the logical projection on that score not quite reach the masses yet? -
While women are expected to prove. Always prove and far past what you're used to. I think that's a pretty big difference in what tends to be more developed when. Coddling does no favors.

Tho I ain't surprised a few posters called the sixteen year old, who cannot be legally trusted to join anything without their parent's signature unless they've been emancipated a homewrecking whore. Sterling example of who shouldn't be fucking youth, there.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Re: "Father builds 'child molester' sign to defend daughter"

Now there's a crack-of-dawn'n thought, it being damn near 5am; we could play twenty questions!

Starting with "how does someone develop emotional maturity when they're held less responsible as a class o'people for their own actions, let alone their own emotional reactions? Squishing down all those emotions seems t'me to be a badly-done panic defense across the board, just replace 'gay' with 'competent/male' when discussing social expectations. Makes no goddamn sense to me, willful ignorance of anything never bred competence. Last I checked that whole conundrum of trying to pretend emotions are wimmin's work was putting guys in early successful suicidal graves - and let's not forget homicidal, the statistics on - those - are certainly telling. Usually in a violent manner and generally in a messy way, because that particular category loses the ingrained via expectation caring 'bout cleaning up the mess. Hell, with homicide the mess (in its various forms) is often part of the goal. Also why more women fail- because they're trained and expected to care about the mess left behind, and all the obvious, relatively easy, painless sure fire ways are messy. Just in case someone wants to pipe up "what about the men, let's actually consider the men.

On the other hand, I'm sure it's more....emotionally comforting to pretend you can understand interactions involving people without bothering with the old "do unto others" of understanding emotion. You know, what should be basic shit. Leads squarely backed to that imagined competency at the cost of emotional and intellectual maturity because admitting you don't know or do care is considered weak. I suggest quite a few men should "woman up" and quit pretending pride is an adequate replacement for actual knowledge.

 

[sixthson]

Just because something is legal doesn't make it right. She might be 16 but she is her father's baby. He's protective and wants the best for him. A 22 year old married man is not the best for her. I wonder how many other teenagers he has seduced. His wife is probably 14.

 

[Rickrock]

Good comments sixthson.

 

[Kahaih]

Just because something is legal doesn't make it right. She might be 16 but she is her father's baby. He's protective and wants the best for him. A 22 year old married man is not the best for her. I wonder how many other teenagers he has seduced. His wife is probably 14.

I find it peculiar that you would post such implications based on nothing but your own speculations about a person whom you have never known anything about other than his [alleged] age, marital status, and what he has been accused of. The article didn't even give a name.

The young man's name doesn’t even appear in the photo:

Perhaps you felt encouraged to do so due to previous ramblings of lunatics. I don’t bother with that sort.

More importantly, though, the fact that your speculation/guess-work about a complete stranger is so dark/negative/damning has me wondering about you. Where is your head?

 

[Telstra]

The issue with the laws and usa is they're different for every state. In my state he would've been jailed because it's considered statutory rape, as here 16 may consent with 16 but 16 doesn't have the basic maturity or knowledge of even the most below-average adult and as such, not a level playing field for consent to be on the table with an adult. A law I'm not particularly keen to change, as a matter of fact. I could see some wiggle room between 16-18 or thereabouts but wiggle room isn't the goal.

Do you agree that some law are stupid and the judges who carry out these law should be punished ??

 

[luckynumbah7]

Do you agree that some law are stupid and the judges who carry out these law should be punished ??

I suggest not trying to stir the pot on this one. I also can't answer you in a manner you would understand because I suspect you know jack shit about how laws are created or modified in the USA, let alone state vs federal regulations.

 

[Zeno Lorea]

Has anyone read about Emmanuel Macron who may well be the next President of France? He started a relationship with his schoolteacher when he was 15 and she was 39. She's now his wife.

Correction: he fell in love when he was fifteen, she didn't give in to him until he was no longer her pupil. They only moved in together when he was an adult, and they got married only ten years ago.

 

[Zeno Lorea]

Do you agree that some law are stupid and the judges who carry out these law should be punished ??

Yes to the first part and no to the second.

 

[dpnice]

Correction: he fell in love when he was fifteen, she didn't give in to him until he was no longer her pupil. They only moved in together when he was an adult, and they got married only ten years ago.

Thank you for correcting that.

I should have done it as soon as I saw the post but didn't have the time.

 

[Zeno Lorea]

http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/35266395/father-builds-child-molester-sign-to-defend-daughter


I was wondering how you guys felt about this?


I am pretty much in the middle.

I am not in the middle at all. I can understand a man is upset when he suddenly realises his little baby girl has become a young woman who falls in love and wants to have sex. What I cannot understand is that he thinks he can keep her from growing up. And when he puts up a sign for all to see NAMING his daughter's 21-year-old partner (because other news outlets have corrected the age as 21) then he really loses any sympathy I may have felt.

Sixteen-year-olds are not children. When I was fifteen I had a 25-year-old sports teacher (straight as an arrow) that I would have fucked in the showers at the slightest suggestion.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Correction: he fell in love when he was fifteen, she didn't give in to him until he was no longer her pupil. They only moved in together when he was an adult, and they got married only ten years ago.

Not quite the reflection of a 22yr old married cheater, is it.