Flight from Kuala Lumpur disappears from sky at 35,000 feet on way to Beijing

[Kulindahr]

Its a comedy to me because it took images, videos and animations from everywhere to dramatize the story.

How long did you spend researching the images in order to determine they were "from everywhere"?

I'll answer that: you didn't, because you couldn't; as you already said, you couldn't understand a word. So you don't know at all that they weren't describing exactly what was being shown, even telling people -- as reporters often do -- that what's being shown is stock footage, not actual operations.

So you don't know anything at all about the subject, and as a result you make things up to satisfy yourself instead of actually acquiring information.

It could well be a comedy to you, but that's because you didn't bother to really try to think about it -- you just reacted.

That's a tragedy.

 

[Telstra]

How long did you spend researching the images in order to determine they were "from everywhere"?

I'll answer that: you didn't, because you couldn't; as you already said, you couldn't understand a word. So you don't know at all that they weren't describing exactly what was being shown, even telling people -- as reporters often do -- that what's being shown is stock footage, not actual operations.

So you don't know anything at all about the subject, and as a result you make things up to satisfy yourself instead of actually acquiring information.

It could well be a comedy to you, but that's because you didn't bother to really try to think about it -- you just reacted.

That's a tragedy.

Yes a lot of stock images packaged as "current"
That is why it is a comedy to me.

 

[Telstra]

It even include Hollywood movie clips in there LOL

 

[Jack Springer]

CNN suggests a black hole.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-don...a-black-hole-caused-flight-370-to-go-missing/

... meanwhile a mad rush to the Indian Ocean off Australia.

 

[Alnitak]

The debris field will have dispersed significantly by now. While that increases the chances of finding it, locating the wreck under the ocean will soon become practically impossible. If the latest debris is not from the plane, it probably will never be found.

 

[Alnitak]

New satellite data. The search area has narrowed considerably to a very small area far off the coast of Perth, Australia. It looks like whoever piloted the aircraft was heading for Antarctica and intended to lose the plane beyond recovery.

http://abcnews.go.com/International...ght-370-drastically-narrows/story?id=22975958

 

[White Eagle]

Just out of curiosity I brought up google maps and went SW from Perth and saw a similar image, however black rather than white. It looked the same position and size. Probably a glitch. And since the location it was probably copied years ago.

 

[Kulindahr]

CNN suggests a black hole.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-don...a-black-hole-caused-flight-370-to-go-missing/

... meanwhile a mad rush to the Indian Ocean off Australia.

LOL

They didn't really "suggest" it; the news guy was passing on questions their viewers had sent in.

This is the real comedy:

Mary Schiavo, a former Inspector General for the U.S. Department of Transportation, said, “A small black hole would suck in our entire universe, so we know it’s not that.”

Actually a small black hole could have gone right through the plane and left a puncture like a small bullet.

 

[Alnitak]

Actually a small black hole could have gone right through the plane and left a puncture like a small bullet.

A black hole large enough for you to see would be too massive to just be floating around. A centimeter black hole is heavier than the Earth, so it would screw with our orbit, the Moon, and certainly an airplane.

Check out this black hole calculator.

http://xaonon.dyndns.org/hawking/

 

[White Eagle]

Hasn't anyone seen Close Encounters of the Third Kind?
Or the Bermuda Triangle?

 

[palbert]

Theguardian.com live blog has put up an amateur YouTube video depicting the conditions in the area.

Daunting.

 

[Alnitak]

Yup those are the roaring forties. Wind simply swirls round and round with no windbreaks. The debris is now scattered beyond recognizing a crash site.

 

[Spiff]

I hope they find wreckage soon and let this story die. It's just too scary how insanely silly CNN has become with its coverage and use of toy airplanes to remind us what an airplane is and looks like. . .

 

[Alnitak]

I hope they find wreckage soon and let this story die. It's just too scary how insanely silly CNN has become with its coverage and use of toy airplanes to remind us what an airplane is and looks like. . .

We are now all experts in pitot tubes.

 

[Kulindahr]

A black hole large enough for you to see would be too massive to just be floating around. A centimeter black hole is heavier than the Earth, so it would screw with our orbit, the Moon, and certainly an airplane.

Check out this black hole calculator.

http://xaonon.dyndns.org/hawking/

This is annoying -- I can't get it to load.

When I said small, I was thinking of Tunguska.

 

[Alnitak]

This is annoying -- I can't get it to load.

Yeah the website is not working, but it is very handy. The equation for black hole evaporation time is just arithmetic and the only variable is mass.

For a Tunguska type meteroid the black hole would evaporate in

t = 5120*pi*(4.45e-21)(9.9e23 kg)

--------------------------------​

(6.63e-34)(8.1e33)​

t = (7.09e6-21+23)

------------------​

(5.3e1-34+33)​

t = 1.3 x 10^8 seconds

----------------------​

(60)(60)(24)(365)​

t = 4.2 years

(I only found a mass figure with two sig figs)

When I said small, I was thinking of Tunguska.

Well now you're talking about a black hole smaller than a quark. Schwartzchild radii are ridiculously small. We're talking about compressing the Earth into a pea.

 

[Alnitak]

^^^ Whoopsie made a mistake. The result of multiplication was 7.1e5

Such a black hole would evaporate in about 150 days.

You would need a cosmic ray with inconceivable energy in order to produce one. The most energetic particle ever detected was the Oh-My-God Particle, which was about as powerful as a 60 mph baseball. If that were converted into a black hole it would evaporate almost instantly, and would be meaninglessly small.

 

[Telstra]

Yeah the website is not working, but it is very handy. The equation for black hole evaporation time is just arithmetic and the only variable is mass.

For a Tunguska type meteroid the black hole would evaporate in

t = 5120*pi*(4.45e-21)(9.9e23 kg)

--------------------------------​

(6.63e-34)(8.1e33)​

t = (7.09e6-21+23)

------------------​

(5.3e1-34+33)​

t = 1.3 x 10^8 seconds

----------------------​

(60)(60)(24)(365)​

t = 4.2 years

(I only found a mass figure with two sig figs)



Well now you're talking about a black hole smaller than a quark. Schwartzchild radii are ridiculously small. We're talking about compressing the Earth into a pea.

wow Genius, no one understand that calculation ...

 

[Alnitak]

wow Genius, no one understand that calculation ...

If you stare at it long enough a unicorn pops out.

 

[Kulindahr]

Yeah the website is not working, but it is very handy. The equation for black hole evaporation time is just arithmetic and the only variable is mass.

For a Tunguska type meteroid the black hole would evaporate in

t = 5120*pi*(4.45e-21)(9.9e23 kg)

--------------------------------​

(6.63e-34)(8.1e33)​

t = (7.09e6-21+23)

------------------​

(5.3e1-34+33)​

t = 1.3 x 10^8 seconds

----------------------​

(60)(60)(24)(365)​

t = 4.2 years

(I only found a mass figure with two sig figs)



Well now you're talking about a black hole smaller than a quark. Schwartzchild radii are ridiculously small. We're talking about compressing the Earth into a pea.

wow Genius, no one understand that calculation ...

Telstra, that's not even advanced high school math -- it's middle school.

A, you should give the "naked equation" first so everyone can follow which numbers mean what. So, for Telstra:

Now, Telly, if you really want some "genius" math, you could read how they got that equation.