Funny anti-religious Internet pics

[Kulindahr]

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Some people are bound to be hurt by some of the pics in this thread in exactly the same way some gay people are bound to be hurt by the anti-gay images the Phelps use.

Some of this borders on intentionally hurting people's feelings, just as the Phelps' signs are beyond the pale.

Criticism, satire and discussion in the realm of such a fractious and heartfelt topic is appropriate.

Ridicule is puerile and shitty.

The dead christians in the dumpster is perhaps a step beyond ridicule. It reminds me of other very controversial images that do little to make us understand one another.

Many of the cartoons also serve the same way the Phelps' signs do: to show how base and bigoted the person holding them up is.


BTW, I cracked up at the dead Christians one, because I recognized the name on the dumpster as a business name, and saw the pic as satire on how the English language puts words together with unintended meanings.

 

[Kulindahr]

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This one I love because creationists don't realize that they're reading a hard book:

 

[Kulindahr]

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You're confused and maybe need to read the conversation from the beginning. He posted a quote of me stating that evolution was fact and not only just a theory. I correctly referred to that as a statement. Now you're telling me I didn't state that? If I didn't, then he had no point to begin with.

No, I didn't tell you that you didn't state that.

And like I used to do with my college remedial reading comprehension students, I'm going to let you figure it out.

It isn't about you stating anything.

 

[belamyi]

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That was a pope with a sense of humor.

No wonder: Catholicism is a riot... but of course then there's Mormonism, and Shiism, and Haredism...

 

[belamyi]

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No, it doesn't. Claims that it does are based on the pick-and-choose approach to the Bible, which is as asinine from atheists as from fundamentalists.

This one I love because creationists don't realize that they're reading a hard book:

Kul, the Bible, like the Qur'an, is a mess of contradictory statements, and the problem with it is that they are not supposed to be just any other book, but a block of truths... that contradict each other. They books made by men about what God reportedly said "word by word".

It's the old problem of the letter and the spirit, and that's how theology and discussion about morals has been going on for centuries: you "pick-and-choose" one part of the book and forget about the rest that denies it. In the case of Islam that is accounted for as further proof of the Wisdom of the Almighty: but that looks at the real mystery in the religion credo. It's true that they are both hard books exposing a bigger problem than the squaring of the circle.

 

[chrisw87]

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well, I've enjoyed giggling at some silly pictures in this thread. While I am a christian I can see the funny side, but being a public arena I expected there to be drama.

This thread needs more fuzzy kittehs though.

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

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[chrisw87]

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^^ someone gets it, and this is not a spiderman thread now, but a kitteh thread.

 

[hotatlboi]

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what's depressing? the chart or the fact that people are using it to imply the ridiculous belief that Christianity caused the dark ages?

(which, obviously, ignores the fact that the idea of the "dark ages" itself is just a myth)

I think there is some legitimate dispute as to what extent Christianity played in the dark ages, however the idea is not a myth.

Most modern historians no longer refer to it with that term, as it is a bit simplistic, but the basic idea that the level of advancement civilization saw in ancient Rome seriously regressed over the next several centuries is completely accurate.

 

[belamyi]

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I think there is some legitimate dispute as to what extent Christianity played in the dark ages, however the idea is not a myth.

Most modern historians no longer refer to it with that term, as it is a bit simplistic, but the basic idea that the level of advancement civilization saw in ancient Rome seriously regressed over the next several centuries is completely accurate.

After the collapse of the political system of the Ancient West (i.e. the Roman Empire: the Neoroman empire of Constantinople was as Roman Empire as Charlemagne's or Zarist Russia), there was nothing left but the Church, that had already been parasiting the Empire, but that was as clueless as it was helpless to take over, and since it had also opposed everything in the old system, science and healthy habits of every kind included, (just like young punks oppose systematically everything coming from old from their elder ones), all that the Church had left was the pompous, airy sayings of the sort "be patient and endure everything in the name of...", just like the leaders of communist Russia asked their people to follow the communist "vows" of labor and poverty while they looted the whole country.

 

[Kulindahr]

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Kul, the Bible, like the Qur'an, is a mess of contradictory statements, and the problem with it is that they are not supposed to be just any other book, but a block of truths... that contradict each other. They books made by men about what God reportedly said "word by word".

It's the old problem of the letter and the spirit, and that's how theology and discussion about morals has been going on for centuries: you "pick-and-choose" one part of the book and forget about the rest that denies it. In the case of Islam that is accounted for as further proof of the Wisdom of the Almighty: but that looks at the real mystery in the religion credo. It's true that they are both hard books exposing a bigger problem than the squaring of the circle.

If that makes you feel better to believe it, go ahead, but those items aren't true.

Anyone who picks and chooses isn't doing theology. That's one reason I will have little to do with churches where the preacher/pastor/priest decides what to preach on every Sunday; give me the ones with systems for reading and preaching the whole Bible (except maybe the 'begats', which don't tell anyone much of anything), whether it's a one-, two-, or three-year system (three gives better coverage with shorter readings to work with).

 

[Kulindahr]

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well, I've enjoyed giggling at some silly pictures in this thread. While I am a christian I can see the funny side, but being a public arena I expected there to be drama.

This thread needs more fuzzy kittehs though.

The label's not quite right. "Jesus cat rules physics", or "Physics obeys Jesus cat" would be better.

But where are the nearly-drowning twelve disciple cats?

 

[belamyi]

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If that makes you feel better to believe it, go ahead, but those items aren't true.

If repeating that makes you feel better, you are free to believe for the sake of your own peace if mind, but you know that what you say is simply not true.

Anyone who picks and chooses isn't doing theology. That's one reason I will have little to do with churches where the preacher/pastor/priest decides what to preach on every Sunday; give me the ones with systems for reading and preaching the whole Bible (except maybe the 'begats', which don't tell anyone much of anything), whether it's a one-, two-, or three-year system (three gives better coverage with shorter readings to work with).

What has religion got to do with theology. No, seriously: theology is about discussion, religion is about prevalence (like with cancer) in the name of absolute indisputable truth; that's why Liberation theology and the like are considered filthy dissidents and heresies.
Religion is organized and vertical: it's not about people's feelings or the search of truth, is about the spreading of and commitment to, by the force if necessary, of an ideology leaded by a few to cynically parasite people's minds and bodies as much people as possible.

If you want to read the "whole Bible", you just need to learn Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic.

 

[Kulindahr]

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After the collapse of the political system of the Ancient West (i.e. the Roman Empire: the Neoroman empire of Constantinople was as Roman Empire as Charlemagne's or Zarist Russia), there was nothing left but the Church, that had already been parasiting the Empire, but that was as clueless as it was helpless to take over, and since it had also opposed everything in the old system, science and healthy habits of every kind included, (just like young punks oppose systematically everything coming from old from their elder ones), all that the Church had left was the pompous, airy sayings of the sort "be patient and endure everything in the name of...", just like the leaders of communist Russia asked their people to follow the communist "vows" of labor and poverty while they looted the whole country.

Talk about revisionism....

Where do you get that "the Church... had ... opposed everything in the old system, science and healthy habits of every time included"? I've taken three different courses that covered the collapse of Rome, and never ran into any indication of that.

Not a lot of technology from Rome was lost. The problem was that the integration of that technology was lost, the application to a widespread system. The Church was instrumental in preserving a great deal of it; the problem was that they weren't interested in spreading it around or restoring it where it had been lost. The part of the Church that preserved it, and even advanced it, was the monastic arm -- but for a long time they tended to keep it, including their innovations, to themselves. Overall, the technology level only dipped briefly after Rome collapsed; what dipped was the universality of the availability of the technology. But that's historically true any time an empire collapses, of technology not directly available to individuals: what takes organization gets lost.

 

[Kulindahr]

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THis old classic is still good:

 

[Kulindahr]

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If repeating that makes you feel better, you are free to believe for the sake of your own peace if mind, but you know that what you say is simply not true.

So you're reaffirming your clinging to falsehoods?

What has religion got to do with theology. No, seriously: theology is about discussion, religion is about prevalence (like with cancer) in the name of absolute indisputable truth; that's why Liberation theology and the like are considered filthy dissidents and heresies.
Religion is organized and vertical: it's not about people's feelings or the search of truth, is about the spreading of and commitment to, by the force if necessary, of an ideology leaded by a few to cynically parasite people's minds and bodies as much people as possible.

No, Liberation Theology is considered heretical because it tends to start with premises other than the Bible.

Theology is the examination of the teaching of religion. Religion with theology is claptrap.

If you want to read the "whole Bible", you just need to learn Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic.

And have you?

That's another reason I have little to do with the kind of churches I mentioned: their idea of "using" Greek and Hebrew is to read their English, look at what some guide says the Hebrew or Greek mean, and stir that into what they were going to say anyway; I was taught that you're not using Greek and Hebrew until you're consulting contemporary sources in those languages, not just looking at the original and referring to your English translation.

It's so much more fun that way, anyway -- there are rather profound things in those original languages that no one has ever translated and published. Though it's rather anticlimactic to take a facsimile of a recently uncovered ancient document and start working on it only to realize it's a servant's task list for the day -- insightful for daily life at the time, but disappointing.

 

[Kulindahr]

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This is just twisted:

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

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[Kulindahr]

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More kittehness:

 

[Kulindahr]

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This one shows a sad truth: Christians came in and stole the Intelligent Design concept:

Our Intelligent Design bunch in college had people who had come to various faiths, including agnosticism and deism, because of science, and reference to holy books as authoritative was forbidden.