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Gay but Can't Come Out

As usual, Rareboy is blunt but gets to the heart of the matter.

All choices come with opportunity costs. You can order the chicken sandwich, but that means you won't have the burger. You can buy the nice house, but it means you won't have the forced interaction of an apartment building. And you can play professional sports for a living, with the potential of a nice paycheck, adoration by fans, etc etc...but you'll have to either stay closeted or become some sort of poster child for "Gays In Sport", along with all the negative publicity and hate mail et al.

I'm not unsympathetic to your plight. I've oft discussed people in your position with others, and have often wondered if I would have the balls to make my sexuality known, even at the risk of an early (and perhaps abrupt) end to my career. But the fact remains - you knew this going in. Homophobia and/or the lack of gays in sports isn't a recent phenomenon. You must have known from the get-go that yours would not be an easy road.

My thoughts.

First off, I think you need to make a very clear choice which path you're going to follow. Either you're going to stay in the closet, or you're going to come out. At any point, you can opt to swap the closet for out, but of course, once you do, there's no turning back. And if at any point you ARE going to want to come out of the closet, you're going to want to own it. You do NOT want to be forced out because you were "seen last night at (gay club)", or a former lover reveals all to the press. Because at that point, you're not just gay. You're a coward, to boot. Pulling a George Michael (coming out once you've been caught red-handed at being gay) isn't an act of courage or "this is what I am" - it's a confession. And being gay isn't something that one is supposed to "confess" to. It's something that you simply make people aware of.

Given this, as long as you're going to remain on the closeted path, you have to do your damnedest not to get caught. Which means no going to gay bars, and no hooking up with guys. At all. It's very easy to feel cocky enough to think you can get away with it, but it's a Real World real world now. Much of what we do is done under the scrutiny of cameras and an audience, even if you're not Tiger Woods. Privacy is rapidly becoming a charming relic of the past, especially in the world of the celebrity. We no longer simply cheer for our favorite team - we read their posts on Twitter about their everyday lives.

Should you keep dating women? That's up to you, but I'd caution against it. You might think that'll keep the wolves at bay, but consider. First off, it's not entirely fair to the women involved. You're using them, even if some of them are using you, as well. And secondly, they might pick up on your lack of sexual interest, and there's always a paper sniffing around for a story like that. So tread extremely carefully there. You don't need to always have a woman on the arm to keep people from asking questions.

At some point, hopefully, you'll start thinking more about possibly coming out. I realize this is talking far in advance of the game, but if/when this happens, again, OWN it. Don't come out because pictures appeared on the internet, don't come out because people are asking questions. Come out because you feel it's time. Because you're sick of the duality you're living, and you're sick of the very idea that a guy can't be great at football/soccer AND like guys, as well. It should be clear that doing so will posit you in a MUCH stronger position. Will you take grief for it? Of course. But you'll be in a much better posiiton than if you wait for somebody to find something.

A final suggestion, and a strong one. Reading between the lines, I'd say this is the first gay website you've asked for advice on. And I feel we do have a good set of guys here who can suggest and advise. But I'd strongly urge you to check out another website - om"]outsports[]. It's a site specifically geared towards gay athletes and gay fans. (No porn there, although they have their share of cheesecake-type pictures.) It's mainly sports talk, much as you'd find on other websites, with the addition of "I think this athlete is hot" comments, and some talk about gays-in-sports. There have been a couple closeted athletes who post on that website, most notably an American lacrosse coach who eventually did take the step of coming out. I'd urge you to read his thread, and perhaps sign up and start posting as well. I would caution you to be VERY careful what you reveal, since some people (in general - not just at outsports) like to play amateur detective. But I have a feeling you'll get a lot of support and wise counsel there.

Best of luck to you.

Lex

Thanks for taking the time to write all that, suppose I'll have to think long and hard about what I want and if it's staying in the closet then working out how best to make sure when I do come out it'll be on my terms. I'll definately check out that website too, cheers :-)
 
Well, it sounds like you've answered your own question then.


Do you plan on making football a life-long career until you retire?
I would think so, I've got a fairly long contract so I should be around for at least 4 years and if I'm not good enough I plan on going to uni to do business and also take my coaching badges, turn my experience into coaching kids. It's my passion and what I'm best at, so may as well try to make a living out of it.
 
I cannot offer any advice that hasn't been given...

But your situation reminded me of a book I read a while back called "Out of the Pocket"...

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Out-Pocket-Bill-Konigsberg/dp/0525479961"]Amazon.com: Out of the Pocket (9780525479963): Bill Konigsberg: Books[/ame]


Its actually about american football (not soccer) -- and its quite an EASY read -- definitely no great LITERARY piece...

But -- you might enjoy it...

:):):)
 
Well. If no one in football comes out, of course it's going to be hard, but once one or two people have done it it becomes much easier. Why can't you? Wouldn't it be nice if you could make it easier for people in your position ten years from now? You already have a back up career. If you did come out, it would give people a reason to remember you, rather than just being a middle of the road, obscure footballer.
 
MIB, it's not the easiest but you can still meet men and not disclose your personal life. Once you meet guys and are in a relationship, you'll be more willing to come out.

Tried to PM you back, but you're a popular dude and filled up your PM storage and you have to erase some messages.
 
>>>Tried to PM you back, but you're a popular dude and filled up your PM storage and you have to erase some messages.

That rates a "zero" on the Lexington Shock-o-Meter. :)

Lex
 
BTW why is it that my spidey senses are tingling?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

6 posts and you've filled up your mailbox.
 
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

6 posts and you've filled up your mailbox.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Sorry I can't control how many people send me a PM. Have I done something to offend you mate?? All I've came on here for is advice and you just don't seem very nice. Your parents not teach you "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"???
 
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Sorry I can't control how many people send me a PM. Have I done something to offend you mate?? All I've came on here for is advice and you just don't seem very nice. Your parents not teach you "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"???

I don't think he was being mean, matey. He was just stating a fact.

According to your profile, you only joined JUB 2 days ago and have only posted 6 times. Yet somehow you've managed to fill your 500 allocated message limit of your inbox. That's quite some feat, even for the most popular person!
 
For new users the message limit is 10 messages.
There are some spammers that just spam per PM and that severely limits them from doing so.

10 messages are quickly used up - it's just 5pms and the replies ..

After a few posts and a few days of membership you get the 500 messages limit.
 
I'd be interested in knowing if the majority of JUBbers who sent you private messages are also closeted and fearful.

Would you mind sharing that info?

This may sound off topic, but it is not.
 
My guess is that they're football fans. But I've always been a rather cynical gargoyle. :D

Lex
 
For new users the message limit is 10 messages.
There are some spammers that just spam per PM and that severely limits them from doing so.

10 messages are quickly used up - it's just 5pms and the replies ..

After a few posts and a few days of membership you get the 500 messages limit.

Okay, Thanks for the info Corny. That explains a lot. I stand corrected. m( _ _ )m
 
6 posts and you've filled up your mailbox.

Sorry I can't control how many people send me a PM. Have I done something to offend you mate?? All I've came on here for is advice and you just don't seem very nice. Your parents not teach you "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"???

don't think he was being mean, matey. He was just stating a fact.

No, I'm just so impressed.

I didn't think there would be that many football fans rushing the gates.

So. You don't think I'm nice. Oh well. Sometimes the very best honest advice you're going to get in your life is from someone you may not think is being very nice.

Everyone else will make up for it.
 
My cousin was a pro soccer player 20 years ago. Now his son is trying to follow in his footsteps. So I pm'd the guy.

Plus you guys are being really bitter these days. It's like a cycle. Last time you did this some had to be told to lay off. Then you left awhile came back and posted o.k. and then just couldn't handle being nice and started up again.

Even after the guy tried to be cordial by saying lay off.

Honestly trying to figure out who you are is really difficult for people in difficult situations. His situation I would say is unique. He posts the question and asks for help and he gets the take it or leave it posts instantaneously followed by the back up defending posts of he's just stating the obvious.

Isn't a new poster at least allowed a post or two to mull it over or for you to try to reason with the guy some more before you drive him off?
 
Thanks for all the help, think I've decided to stay in the closet for the time being and see what the future brings.

I've thought about it long and hard and came up with a plan on how to deal with it, I also took the advice to tell someone I trust and told my best mate. He took it alright and actually said he had a feeling I liked lads. Feels a weight lifted from my shoulders.

All the best for the future ..|
 
Cool deal. Just don't get over-cocky and think you can sneak around and have nobody notice. It seems everybody thinks this, and nearly everybody gets bitten on the ass when they try it. Maybe not the first time, or even the second, but eventually. If you start feeling the urge, talk to your friend, or post here so we can smack you around and make you see some sense. :)

Lex
 
Yeah, it's always better to come out as an out, proud gay than to be "caught", in which case you're guaranteed to look like a fool.

Forever.
 
that's great news about your buddy. congrats on not hanging around a douche bag. by the way, you're still pretty young so your feelings on this will likely change a million times as life unfolds. for now, just have fun with your friends, suck some dick, forgive your parents, kick ass on the ball field and save your money. all will most likely be just fine.
 
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