Gay marriage New York 2011

[scream4ever]

^^^Well then contact people you know in New York and make sure they contact their senators to support marriage equality.

 

[scream4ever]

"Just like California republicans? I hear that all the time. They are mostly anti-gay marriage. Yes, here is a news flash... most New York republicans (especially those representing areas not in NYC proper) and California republicans are mostly anti-gay marriage.

In other words, there is no way the Republican party in New York are going to break from the anti-gay marriage stance of the party on the national scale.

Meh. I used to think republicans were different in NeW York and California, but I won't hold my breath on that one."

The problem in California isn't so much the Republicans, but the Democrats who voted for Prop. 8. California is one of the most minority-majority states in the country, and we all know how most racial minorities tend to feel about gay issues. New York is different in that sense. Sure there are many racial minorities in New York City, but as a whole Democrats in that state are also socially liberal.

 

[rareboy]

"Just like California republicans? I hear that all the time. They are mostly anti-gay marriage. Yes, here is a news flash... most New York republicans (especially those representing areas not in NYC proper) and California republicans are mostly anti-gay marriage.

In other words, there is no way the Republican party in New York are going to break from the anti-gay marriage stance of the party on the national scale.

Meh. I used to think republicans were different in NeW York and California, but I won't hold my breath on that one."

The problem in California isn't so much the Republicans, but the Democrats who voted for Prop. 8. California is one of the most minority-majority states in the country, and we all know how most racial minorities tend to feel about gay issues. New York is different in that sense. Sure there are many racial minorities in New York City, but as a whole Democrats in that state are also socially liberal.

Your stats are wrong.

We've been over this 100 times in this forum.

 

[scream4ever]

Some promising articles:

As I was saying about New York Republicans:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/14/n...y-marriage-push.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

I swear, she needs to run for President:

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/19246/kirsten-gillibrand-my-goal-is-to-talk-to-all-of-them

This is great considering Jim Alesi is on the fence:

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/05/photo-of-day.html

 

[scream4ever]

Little increase in phone calls opposing gay marriage in New York:

http://www.gaycitynews.com/articles/2011/05/06/gay_city_news/news/doc4dc3817a38d50690239061.txt

Independance Party (which is about three times the size of the Conservative Party) chair backs gay marriage:

http://online.wsj.com/article/AP69167dbc2645416792ef3c8556ebaed6.html

Is Greg Ball going to vote Yes to gay marriage in New York? He seems like he's actively negotiating, which is a very good sign.

 

[scream4ever]

Apparently the number in the New York state senate is 27 for confirmed Yes votes (one senator is not officially announcing support yet) and 2 "leaning yes". I consider Kristin Gillibrand to be a reliable and trustworthy source, and this also confirms what Christine Quinn said earlier as well about how she got support from a "dissapointing no vote in 2009".

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/05/17/Gillibrands_Optimism_for_NY_Marriage/

My God, Gillibrand should seriously consider running for President someday!!!

 

[hotatlboi]

My God, Gillibrand should seriously consider running for President someday!!!

I hope so. Love her.

 

[scream4ever]

Cuomo now directly lobbying on the fence senators:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...0.html?mod=googlenews_wsj#articleTabs=article

 

[scream4ever]

Ex New York State Senate Republican leader supports marriage equality:

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/da...cuomo-republican-says-time-has-come-for-gay-m

 

[hotatlboi]

Ex New York State Senate Republican leader supports marriage equality:

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/da...cuomo-republican-says-time-has-come-for-gay-m

Key word ex.

Good luck getting any sitting Republicans on board.

21 days left in this session.

Don't see any Republicans moving away from their bigotry.

Crickets.

 

[laikaNYC]

Ruben Diaz won't be voting 'Yay'

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2011/06/state-sen-ruben-diaz-srs-opposition-to-same-sex-marriage-brings-threats-and-mo

 

[hotatlboi]

Ruben Diaz won't be voting 'Yay'

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2011/06/state-sen-ruben-diaz-srs-opposition-to-same-sex-marriage-brings-threats-and-mo

What a shocker.

 

[rareboy]

Ruben Diaz won't be voting 'Yay'

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2011/06/state-sen-ruben-diaz-srs-opposition-to-same-sex-marriage-brings-threats-and-mo

Gee.

I'll bet that just gave you a chub.

 

[laikaNYC]

Gee.

I'll bet that just gave you a chub.

Thread topic: Gay marriage New York 2011

 

[rareboy]

Thread topic: Gay marriage New York 2011

Gee. You're in New York.

Diaz is in New York.

It is about gay marriage.

And the reactions of New Yorkers to the Democratic Pentecostal preacher's opposition to the rights of homos.

That has to make a republican tingle down there.

 

[scream4ever]

Key word ex.

Good luck getting any sitting Republicans on board.

21 days left in this session.

Don't see any Republicans moving away from their bigotry.

Crickets.

Greg Ball has pretty explicitly indicated he'll vote yes assuming religious protections are included.

There are 10 undecided Senators, up from 8 not too long ago:

http://www.actonprinciples.org/marriagenysenate/

 

[frankfrank]

^ [scream4ever]

Interesting is that 7 of the 10 UNDECIDED are Republicans. That might be a good sign. What was the breakdown when it was 8 instead of 10? Maybe some Republicans are reassessing their Party's stance.

 

[scream4ever]

Here's the previous list:

http://ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=8513&MediaType=1&Category=26

 

[frankfrank]

Ah, so two more Republicans have moved to the fence, huh? Probably good news. It's easy to assume what side they were PROBABLY on before becoming undecided...

 

[Perfidiosity]

I actually don't think that it will even be brought up for a vote. From what I've read the senate is republican controlled and none of them are likely to vote for equality and that none of them did the last time when the proposal was actually voted on awhile back. What's more is that there are even Dems that won't support it. It's sad but I don't see this happening.