Gay Marriage Updates By State

[hotatlboi]

yeah it lost by 8 votes. They picked up maybe 3-4 at most.

 

[Ninja108]

I know in N.H. the Republicians are already working on repealing the civil unions law. One of the reason we opted not to jobs that were offered to us there.

 

[scream4ever]

I counted the votes and there still aren't enough after Oppenheimer lost her race.

Fuck Ruben Diaz right in his deaf ear and into his pea brain.

You mean Oppenheimer WON right?

There are currently 26 confirmed Yes votes. Addabbo is likely to flip, so that would make 27. If Alessi commits that would make 28. We need 31 (a tie would give us a win since the Leiutenant Governor would cast the deciding vote, and Robert Duffy has already said he supports marriage equality). The 3 additional votes could possibly come from Kruger and/or other Republicans. I'd say it's still passable. Not as likely as it looked before, but still passable.

 

[scream4ever]

I know in N.H. the Republicians are already working on repealing the civil unions law. One of the reason we opted not to jobs that were offered to us there.

They likely won't reach a fillibuster proof majority though (Lynch has promised to veto repeal). There are still 26 Republicans who voted against repeal last year (and no Democrats who voted for repeal) seated, and I'm sure that number has ballooned by a significant amount since this last election.

Even the President of the Senate (a Republican) has said he thinks it's unlikely they will even vote on repeal in this session.

 

[metta]

Wedding Bell Blues: Filmmakers document marriage battle

http://ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=5334

 

[metta]

Renewed push to legalize gay marriage in RI


http://www.boston.com/news/local/rh...ri_lawmaker_to_reintroduce_gay_marriage_bill/


MD - Same-sex wars begin before session opens

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/local/politics/2011/01/same_sex_wars_begin_before_ses.html

Maryland Senate GOP Leader Tries to Derail Gay Marriage With Civil Unions Proposl
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/annapolis/2011/01/senate_gop_leader_in_md_to_pus.html

 

[Ninja108]

Hah! That is so awesome. The Rethugs in Maryland didn't even support our very limited domestic partnership bill in Maryland. All of a sudden they grasp at straws and offer up civil unions in an attempt to avoid the marriage boogeyman.

I love that the whole debate has been pushed far enough to the left to force the scumbags to support civil unions.

Also, speaking of Maryland gov't...

Apparently, there were suspicious packages sent to major government offices in Maryland today. It probably has nothing to do with the marriage debate, but it is pretty freaky.

You can be sure if the civil unions were passed it'd only be a matter of time before they tried to do away with those.

 

[Kulindahr]

The Rethugs

How is that term helpful? It doesn't illustrate anything, it just insults.

 

[Kulindahr]

Maybe they heard Theodore J. Boutrous, Jr say the Olson, Boies, et al. team is "going to pursue other opportunities in other jurisdictions".

 

[scream4ever]

Good news from Texas. An appeals court ruled in favor of a gay divorce, despite the attorney general appealing it.

http://www.dallasvoice.com/breaking...rce-rules-ags-office-austin-case-1059966.html

 

[Kulindahr]

^That isn't worth much. It wasn't really a ruling "in favor of a gay divorce", it was a ruling on standing -- the court ruled that given the circumstances, the AG's appeal wasn't relevant.

There was no actual ruling on the case.

 

[metta]

Gay marriage isn't revolutionary. It's just the next step in marriage's evolution.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/06/AR2011010604911.html

 

[metta]

Catholic Bishop Tobin lashes out at R.I. leaders for pushing gay marriage

http://www.projo.com/news/politics/content/TOBIN_ON_GAY_MARRIAGE_01-08-11_U0LRPF2_v23.507965.html

 

[Kulindahr]

Gay marriage isn't revolutionary. It's just the next step in marriage's evolution.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/06/AR2011010604911.html

Excellent read!

I always hear debates about marriage in terms of structure, but never anything about the forces behind the scenes -- which turn out, in a civil sense, to be the foundations.

I will note one error: the idea of marriage for love is older than just the last two centuries; that particular revolution was begun by the troubadors with their songs of love and devotion.

 

[Kulindahr]

Catholic Bishop Tobin lashes out at R.I. leaders for pushing gay marriage

http://www.projo.com/news/politics/content/TOBIN_ON_GAY_MARRIAGE_01-08-11_U0LRPF2_v23.507965.html

The Roman Catholics have never gotten over the fact that no one allows them to decide who gets to be king or president or whatever. Since we took away the divine right of kings, they've replaced it with the divine right of whining.

I MUCH prefer the actions of a Lutheran pastor here the last election when there was a gay issue and something else on the ballot that the local version of the FRC had an opinion about: at a congregation meeting, a number of people asked loudly that the church put up signs on these issues. Pastor J. asked for copies of the Bible to be handed out for any who hadn't brought one, and said that if anyone could before the meeting was over find a Bible verse where Jesus or an apostle instructed that God's people were to take over the government, he'd put the sign issue to a vote -- but if not, since proclaiming God's message was his job, the only signs going up would say "Love one another", that being in his judgment the best admonition Christ had for elections.

 

[Ninja108]

Catholic Bishop Tobin lashes out at R.I. leaders for pushing gay marriage

http://www.projo.com/news/politics/content/TOBIN_ON_GAY_MARRIAGE_01-08-11_U0LRPF2_v23.507965.html

IMO, an originzation that covered up the rape of boys and girls and allowed more of them to be victimized rather than face scandel has no authority to lecture anyone.

 

[Kulindahr]

IMO, an originzation that covered up the rape of boys and girls and allowed more of them to be victimized rather than face scandel has no authority to lecture anyone.

Part and parcel of still living in the seventeenth century.


And I still say they should have used a seventeenth-century solution: any offending priest whose victim(s) was under the age of fourteen goes to a monastery to be walled in, receiving meals through a window, and spend the rest of his life in prayer; fourteen to sixteen, up to the same depending on the details, and seventeen to eighteen, put 'em in the ring with their victims and let the kids get medieval on their asses.

They say it should be handled by the church -- I agree, But they rarely did any handling, just shuffling.

Maybe if they'd repent of the evil of requiring priests to be celibate, the priests would have an outlet, and God might even provide more priests (personally, I consider most of Rome's woes to be due to their arrogance in God's eyes on the matter of married priests).

But on that note they allow priests to marry, they can just STFU about marriage.

 

[metta]

New Hampshire legislator files two bills that would repeal marriage equality

http://sdgln.com/causes/2011/01/10/...iles-two-bills-would-repeal-marriage-equality

 

[metta]

Catholic Lawmakers Backing Gay Marriage

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/catholic-lawmakers-backing-gay-marriage

 

[Ninja108]

New Hampshire legislator files two bills that would repeal marriage equality

http://sdgln.com/causes/2011/01/10/...iles-two-bills-would-repeal-marriage-equality

Not surprised...they announced it as one of their goals the minute they got the majority in the house. I truly don't get what damn business it is of theirs if we get married or not.