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Gay Marriage Updates By State

As to Hawaii --

I have a sister-in-law there, part native blood, who is furious with the way the provisions for honoring the native ways have been kicked off to the side. Hawaii had same-sex unions that weren't just permitted, but honored. What we see these days is just a continuation of the missionary imperialism that almost wiped out native culture in the first place.
 
Malcom Smith said the same thing as Sampson and yet it still came to a vote (months later, but still). Hopefully the Leutenant Governor will be vocal about casting a Yes vote in the event of a tie.

With what you've said it seems much more likely to gain all three then I originally thought. It's true that New York is one of the few states to not be affected by the Tea Party movement. It won't help either for them the fact that Palandino is batshit crazy (he's really giving Rachel Maddow a lot of airtime!).

As for Kruger, it's not just allegations. He's being investigated by the FBI. We'll see where it leads.
 
Kulindahr said:
As to Hawaii --

I have a sister-in-law there, part native blood, who is furious with the way the provisions for honoring the native ways have been kicked off to the side. Hawaii had same-sex unions that weren't just permitted, but honored. What we see these days is just a continuation of the missionary imperialism that almost wiped out native culture in the first place.
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That's true to an extent among Native Americans on the mainland as well. Many tribes have conducted/honored same sex relationships throughout history.
 
I won't hold my breath either about them, but still.

When it comes to holding a vote, you always have some that are classified as "undecided/won't say" who will vote Yes when the bill is brought to the floor. Even with fewer then 30 confirmed Yes votes (last year there were like 22 confirmed Yes votes), it would likely be enough to outnumber the confirmed No votes.
 
scream4ever said:
That's true to an extent among Native Americans on the mainland as well. Many tribes have conducted/honored same sex relationships throughout history.
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Right. The thing is, the Hawaiians' customs/traditions/whatever were supposedly protected in the state constitution. They shouldn't have needed a fight at all!
 
I haven't been following many of the races as intently as others here, probably because I am an expat living in Norway now - but one senator I've had much respect for in California, Barbara Boxer, seems to be fighting an uphill battle against Carly Fiorina. And that in the crucial "gay battleground" state! Any (reassuring) news from there?
 
Teddybear71 said:
I haven't been following many of the races as intently as others here, probably because I am an expat living in Norway now - but one senator I've had much respect for in California, Barbara Boxer, seems to be fighting an uphill battle against Carly Fiorina. And that in the crucial "gay battleground" state! Any (reassuring) news from there?
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Personally I'd be happy to see Boxer go down. She's a rabid police-state supporter who'd rather see criminals armed and make citizens their helpless victims than admit the Second Amendment really exists.

If only the guy nearby who hates almost the entire Bill of Rights, John "free speech is for the powerful" McCain would go down, it would balance on other issues.
 
RazorzEdge88 said:
I think you're confusing Boxer and Feinstein. Not that I'm a huge Boxer fan, but eh, she could be worse.

Edit: And really, even if Boxer did support the police state, it'd make her no worse than Fiorina who is a GOP shill (and they LOVE the police state).
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Boxer isn't as bad as Feinstein, who once said publicly that if she could, she'd order all Americans to turn in their guns, immediately. What she'd get, of course, would be a bullet between the eyes, which is what any American politician trying to do such a thing would deserve. But any time there's an effort to turn Americans into victims by infringing on the Second Amendment, she's right there.

California is a place that could really use some multi-party politics. You guys have a wondrous spectrum of political views, and they all get choked off by two decrepit giants.
 
Robert Duffy (Leutenant Governor candidate with Cuomo) supports gay marriage:

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local...obert_duffy_as_his_lt_governor_candidate.html

So in the event of a tie we'd still win. Probably a good idea to call John Simpson and inform him of this.

Also, after reading some past news archives, I think Kruger might be moveable. Pedro Espada broke away from the "Gang of Three" and ended up supporting gay marriage, so Kruger may do the same. Unlike Diaz, Kruger said he voted no simply becuase of what his constituents said, not by giving religious reasons. However, Aubertine is most certain to not move (he voted No while in the Assembly).
 
RazorzEdge88 said:
Interesting about Kruger. I *thought* I read something about him being a steadfast social conservative like Aubertine, but I guess not. Maybe I just assumed his vote was lost because his district is so overwhelmingly social conservative. That area of southern Long Island around Queens and Brooklyn is brutal. They were the ones (in Queens, at least) whom Addabbo claimed were against it 3 to 1.
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The "Gang of Three" fiasco was about gay marriage if I remember correctly. Remember too that Kruger did vote yes to the burial rights bill.

Does V. Mountgomery represent a different part of Brooklyn then, one that is more liberal (she voted yes to the bill of course)?

Addabbo simply heard from them 3 to 1 in terms of opposition v support. It's a well know fact that people are more likely to write about something they're against rather then for. I hope that is being made known to him. I don't think he'd be in danger of getting voted out if he votes yes because while that area may be more socially conservative, it's still very reliably Democrat (has become that way in recent years).
 
I have often thought about writing a letter to one of my senators (Klobuchar / Franken), especially since Minnesota is supposed to be rather progressive in social matters - and both of the senators support GLBT rights (or am I wrong on that?)... I would love to be able to take my husband and move back to the US at some point in the future, but would an insignificant letter from one individual expat really make any difference? Has anyone else written to their senators and gotten a reply?
 
Teddybear71 said:
I have often thought about writing a letter to one of my senators (Klobuchar / Franken), especially since Minnesota is supposed to be rather progressive in social matters - and both of the senators support GLBT rights (or am I wrong on that?)... I would love to be able to take my husband and move back to the US at some point in the future, but would an insignificant letter from one individual expat really make any difference? Has anyone else written to their senators and gotten a reply?
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I've written to my senators when I've been in three different states, and always gotten a reply. Most of the time it's a form letter, but twice it's been directly to my letter, with even an actual signature.

I don't know the current figures, but it used to be said that a letter from one constituent, on an issue, was taken as an indication that another ten thousand thought that way.
 
Franken is one of the most liberal members of the US Senate. Klobuchar is pretty much your standard Democrat from Minnesota. So yes, they are very friendly on gay issues.

Also, Minnesota will gain back its reputation as being a progressive state when Mark Dayton is elected (gay marriage, single payer health care, etc.).
 
As far as I know yes. Dayton has been leading in the polls for the most part (though his lead has dropped a bit).

I've heard reports saying that the Minnesota House will gain an average of 19 Republicans (which I don't believe) and in the Senate they are expected to gain at least 3 seats, but it's really not too bad when you see that the Democrats have a 40 seat lead already. Also, many of the seats most likely to be lost are the more conservative Democrats who would vote no to gay marriage anyways.

The Catholic Church is really going crazy here in the state, sending out informational DVD's to 400,000 homes. Already there is a movement to return them or send them to another address and they will donate money to a charity and use the old DVD to form an "art project".
 
I've read some more realistic projections regarding this November and they are predicting Republican gains of roughly 3 seats in the Senate and 6 in the House. Minnesota is one of the few states to not be affected too bad by the Tea Party movement.
 
http://www.nycapitolnews.com/news/126/ARTICLE/1815/2010-09-29.html

Apparently there are about 6-12 New York Republican senators that are considered moveable on gay marriage! I noticed that they failed to mention Alesi in their list. Could this mean that he's pretty much a confirmed Yes (last year his aid put out a notice that he was ready to announce his support for the bill, but at the last minute he decided not to)?

After reading this article, I think Tom Duane probably at first did have the votes to pass gay marriage, but the "Scozzfava" incident deterred any Republican support.
 
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