Gay Men Vs. Women:Whose most likely to date a Bisexual Man?

[figjam]

I am a bisexual woman. I was just asking because I saw the question on yahoo, and it have been on my mind since. And would make more sense if bisexual men, and gay guys are more likely to date each other.

I am a bisexual man - there are so many issues with bisexuality. I love both sexes - not that complicated - even more, I love the person...

 

[AlmondMilk]

I'd date a bi guy if he were into me and I into him. I think men do have that tendency to date bi guys more. A lot of the women I know have a problem with bi guys whether they think it makes them less masculine or whatever. And plenty of women I know get jealous pretty easily. but I can only speak of the people I know.

 

[GregKII]

I've only met like one guy I thought was TRULY bi, the others were either closeted gay guys, or they just enjoyed sex with men. To be honest, I would date one, as long as their hot, and they treat me nice. What's the problem?

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

^Being left for a woman is worse than being left for a man, apparently. And the reverse is true for women, I guess?

Of course, no one notices the part that matters more is that they were left... it has to be quantified by something.

 

[Medusa]

^Being left for a woman is worse than being left for a man, apparently. And the reverse is true for women, I guess?

Of course, no one notices the part that matters more is that they were left... it has to be quantified by something.

True on both accounts. And to be honest (and God forbid I would ever be in this situation)I would much whether have a boyfriend leave me for another woman.Him leaving me for another man would honestly make me feel worthless, and like used up sex toy.Also bamboozled that I was stupid enough to be with someone that was nothing but an imaginary person.

 

[MissAnne]

Hey,are we the only two black people here? .

Black girl here !

And yeah. A lot of Black girls wont date a bi guy. Homosexuality is so weird in the Black community. Its not that big of an issue in my family, maybe because my parents arent Christian.

Id like to say that I would try and date a bi guy. Never really thought about it.

 

[MissAnne]

I would much whether have a boyfriend leave me for another woman.Him leaving me for another man would honestly make me feel worthless, and like used up sex toy.

Ive heard it the other way around. Ive heard some women say that they would rather their man leave them for another man, because at least it had nothing to do with her.

 

[Medusa]

Black girl here !

And yeah. A lot of Black girls wont date a bi guy. Homosexuality is so weird in the Black community. Its not that big of an issue in my family, maybe because my parents arent Christian.

Id like to say that I would try and date a bi guy. Never really thought about it.

Hey girl HEY! And if that's you in your avatars let me just say, you are very pretty. Anyways you are correct that homosexuality is very weird in the black community,especially regrading to black males.And you know whats so damn ironic? The black community will be more likely to accept, and show love to gay men, then they will a bisexual man.Or maybe that's just the circles in run in

 

[MissAnne]

Hey girl HEY! And if that's you in your avatars let me just say, you are very pretty.

Hey girl Hey !

I wish that was me! That is Antonia Thomas, British actress. Yeah she is gorgeous.

 

[MissAnne]

I don't even understand that...

The alternative is what? Get left for a gorgeous woman so you can feel like shit about yourself? lmao
.

I think its like...'If I can't even beat out this ugly woman, how do I stand a chance against the women that are twice as beautiful as me'.

 

[Scealle]

I was a bit bugged when I was left for a pretty girl but can't force love now can we?

 

[Medusa]

I was a bit bugged when I was left for a pretty girl but can't force love now can we?

Why,pumpkin?

 

[Scealle]

As you have mentioned I felt a bit used like a toy. And a bit silly for me to get involved with such mess in the first place.

 

[Adrusek81]

I believe that a key element in this debate is the fact that bisexual people do not belong to the two groups that society views as "integral" to the definition of sexual orientation: in short, they are somewhere in the middle between homosexual and heterosexual, without ever truly "belonging" to either community. Thus, since they cannot be easily defined by traits or qualities linked to a specific group, they are regarded as anomalous in their behaviour, incapable of integration and potentially deceitful.

While I imagine that this can be very painful, it is also undeniable that there is an element of truth in every stereotype - in fact, stereotypes are born from communal behaviours that are prevalent enough to be exaggerated and systematically used to define entire communities, both negatively and positively. However, in the case of bisexual people these stereotypes are magnified because of the perceived "otherness" of their sexual orientation, especially in the case of men. Bisexual women are treated less harshly because, in our patriarchal society, their sexuality is viewed as just an accessory to male sexuality. No matter what they do, perceive or feel, women are considered to be there to serve men. Only women who defy notions of proper femininity (they cultivate a manly appearance, seek power or non-sexually conditioned attention) are punished by society. Women who comply with the "desirable-submissive-happily inferior" concept of femininity, are viewed as lacking power and thus, they don't pose a threat to anyone.

Men, on the other hand, have it harder. Not being fully heterosexual is shameful because men who are attracted to other males, betray their self-appointed superiority by being "feminized", which is shameful because women are considered to be inferior. On the opposite side, the gay community has had to fight very hard to achieve visibility and lend validity to the idea that homosexuality is not a learned behaviour that one deliberately chooses to engage in, or the result of corruption.

Bisexual people, who can selectively enter both worlds, are seen as giving arguments to those who think that same-sex attraction is just an abnormal whim, or a sign of indecency. Half-homosexual, the heterosexuals view them as potentially deviant sexual predators who are incapable of honouring a "formal" relationship and complying with acceptable models of emotional and sexual interaction. Half-heterosexual, the homosexuals view them as exploitative sexual predators who can enjoy the best aspects of being gay, while rapidly retreating to comfort of straight relationships when things become intense, complicated, or potentially conflictive. Thus, they are bound to be rejected by everyone.

This is undeniably sad and unfair, but it's also true that these views, no matter how negative, are based on reality - obviously, not everyone's reality, but a reality frequent enough to create very negative perceptions nonetheless. Challenging these perceptions can only be achieved through increased visibility, showing everyone that bisexuality is not subjected to generalized moral imperatives, but individual behaviours. There are despicable people everywhere, even though societal pressures do play a very important role in the relationships that bisexual people have with the other two groups. Could it be possible to say that bisexual people are, often, cornered into hiding their true desires out of fear of rejection and isolation? I think it is. Society is very cruel with those who are different, and prejudice is a driving factor for many interactions. It's also true that, being in the middle, they may never completely rid themselves of the 'they can go the other way at any moment' cliche.

With this said, I think that women would be more likely to date a bisexual man, because women are conditioned to be more forgiving and accepting - even when being forgiving and accepting is painful and damaging to them. Also, as someone already mentioned, women are taught to hope they can change the men they enter in relationships with. Men are not taught to tolerate, in most cases. Women are taught to sacrifice themselves for the sake of a relationship, because they are derided and pitied if they don't have a man in their lives. "Alone" is a synonym of "failure" for women.

Gay men might be willing to sporadically have intercourse with these men, but the idea of making extreme concessions isn't something that most would accept (nor should anyone, no matter what sexual orientation might be). No one likes to feel like they are being used to pass the time until that socially acceptable partner turns up. This tends to elicit great anger among gay people, rather than resentment or jealousy (?) over the fact that bisexual people can blend into heterosexuality without problems. Equally, no one likes to be told that their sexual orientation makes them less deserving of love or acceptance - there are bisexual men out there who genuinely believe that they are better than gay men because they can potentially enter heterosexual relationships, and shamelessly objectify homosexual people. While biphobia seems to be prevalent among many, which is unfortunate, many people also seem to be overlooking the fact that some bisexual people are rabidly homophobic themselves.

Educating people in theoretical principles is an important matter, but only exposure, respect and honesty can ultimately be used to bring acceptance for misunderstood communities, in my opinion.

 

[Medusa]

I believe that a key element in this debate is the fact that bisexual people do not belong to the two groups that society views as "integral" to the definition of sexual orientation: in short, they are somewhere in the middle between homosexual and heterosexual, without ever truly "belonging" to either community. Thus, since they cannot be easily defined by traits or qualities linked to a specific group, they are regarded as anomalous in their behaviour, incapable of integration and potentially deceitful.

While I imagine that this can be very painful, it is also undeniable that there is an element of truth in every stereotype - in fact, stereotypes are born from communal behaviours that are prevalent enough to be exaggerated and systematically used to define entire communities, both negatively and positively. However, in the case of bisexual people these stereotypes are magnified because of the perceived "otherness" of their sexual orientation, especially in the case of men. Bisexual women are treated less harshly because, in our patriarchal society, their sexuality is viewed as just an accessory to male sexuality. No matter what they do, perceive or feel, women are considered to be there to serve men. Only women who defy notions of proper femininity (they cultivate a manly appearance, seek power or non-sexually conditioned attention) are punished by society. Women who comply with the "desirable-submissive-happily inferior" concept of femininity, are viewed as lacking power and thus, they don't pose a threat to anyone.

Men, on the other hand, have it harder. Not being fully heterosexual is shameful because men who are attracted to other males, betray their self-appointed superiority by being "feminized", which is shameful because women are considered to be inferior. On the opposite side, the gay community has had to fight very hard to achieve visibility and lend validity to the idea that homosexuality is not a learned behaviour that one deliberately chooses to engage in, or the result of corruption.

Bisexual people, who can selectively enter both worlds, are seen as giving arguments to those who think that same-sex attraction is just an abnormal whim, or a sign of indecency. Half-homosexual, the heterosexuals view them as potentially deviant sexual predators who are incapable of honouring a "formal" relationship and complying with acceptable models of emotional and sexual interaction. Half-heterosexual, the homosexuals view them as exploitative sexual predators who can enjoy the best aspects of being gay, while rapidly retreating to comfort of straight relationships when things become intense, complicated, or potentially conflictive. Thus, they are bound to be rejected by everyone.

This is undeniably sad and unfair, but it's also true that these views, no matter how negative, are based on reality - obviously, not everyone's reality, but a reality frequent enough to create very negative perceptions nonetheless. Challenging these perceptions can only be achieved through increased visibility, showing everyone that bisexuality is not subjected to generalized moral imperatives, but individual behaviours. There are despicable people everywhere, even though societal pressures do play a very important role in the relationships that bisexual people have with the other two groups. Could it be possible to say that bisexual people are, often, cornered into hiding their true desires out of fear of rejection and isolation? I think it is. Society is very cruel with those who are different, and prejudice is a driving factor for many interactions. It's also true that, being in the middle, they may never completely rid themselves of the 'they can go the other way at any moment' cliche.

With this said, I think that women would be more likely to date a bisexual man, because women are conditioned to be more forgiving and accepting - even when being forgiving and accepting is painful and damaging to them. Also, as someone already mentioned, women are taught to hope they can change the men they enter in relationships with. Men are not taught to tolerate, in most cases. Women are taught to sacrifice themselves for the sake of a relationship, because they are derided and pitied if they don't have a man in their lives. "Alone" is a synonym of "failure" for women.

Gay men might be willing to sporadically have intercourse with these men, but the idea of making extreme concessions isn't something that most would accept (nor should anyone, no matter what sexual orientation might be). No one likes to feel like they are being used to pass the time until that socially acceptable partner turns up. This tends to elicit great anger among gay people, rather than resentment or jealousy (?) over the fact that bisexual people can blend into heterosexuality without problems. Equally, no one likes to be told that their sexual orientation makes them less deserving of love or acceptance - there are bisexual men out there who genuinely believe that they are better than gay men because they can potentially enter heterosexual relationships, and shamelessly objectify homosexual people. While biphobia seems to be prevalent among many, which is unfortunate, many people also seem to be overlooking the fact that some bisexual people are rabidly homophobic themselves.

Educating people in theoretical principles is an important matter, but only exposure, respect and honesty can ultimately be used to bring acceptance for misunderstood communities, in my opinion.

And this what kind of pisses me off, about society, and why a man cheating on his woman is so damn heartbreaking.Thank you for that.We as woman are taught we most do everything to keep our men happy no matter what. We have sacrifice ourselves to make sure we get that smile on ours man's face indicating that he is happy with those.Women put their whole worth,well being, and ego into getting a man, and keeping him happy.I mean after all,this is what the man made society tell us to do right? If she ain't doing anything to please a man, and catch one, then she is must be doing something wrong.Just look at all the women who are desperate to get married.They have seminars,books,video tapes on who to get a man to notice her, you will never see a man doing the same thing.And in a way I feel like the way this society treats women is awful..

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

I believe that a key element in this debate is the fact that bisexual people do not belong to the two groups that society views as "integral" to the definition of sexual orientation: in short, they are somewhere in the middle between homosexual and heterosexual, without ever truly "belonging" to either community. Thus, since they cannot be easily defined by traits or qualities linked to a specific group, they are regarded as anomalous in their behaviour, incapable of integration and potentially deceitful.

While I imagine that this can be very painful, it is also undeniable that there is an element of truth in every stereotype - in fact, stereotypes are born from communal behaviours that are prevalent enough to be exaggerated and systematically used to define entire communities, both negatively and positively. However, in the case of bisexual people these stereotypes are magnified because of the perceived "otherness" of their sexual orientation, especially in the case of men. Bisexual women are treated less harshly because, in our patriarchal society, their sexuality is viewed as just an accessory to male sexuality. No matter what they do, perceive or feel, women are considered to be there to serve men. Only women who defy notions of proper femininity (they cultivate a manly appearance, seek power or non-sexually conditioned attention) are punished by society. Women who comply with the "desirable-submissive-happily inferior" concept of femininity, are viewed as lacking power and thus, they don't pose a threat to anyone.

Men, on the other hand, have it harder. Not being fully heterosexual is shameful because men who are attracted to other males, betray their self-appointed superiority by being "feminized", which is shameful because women are considered to be inferior. On the opposite side, the gay community has had to fight very hard to achieve visibility and lend validity to the idea that homosexuality is not a learned behaviour that one deliberately chooses to engage in, or the result of corruption.

Bisexual people, who can selectively enter both worlds, are seen as giving arguments to those who think that same-sex attraction is just an abnormal whim, or a sign of indecency. Half-homosexual, the heterosexuals view them as potentially deviant sexual predators who are incapable of honouring a "formal" relationship and complying with acceptable models of emotional and sexual interaction. Half-heterosexual, the homosexuals view them as exploitative sexual predators who can enjoy the best aspects of being gay, while rapidly retreating to comfort of straight relationships when things become intense, complicated, or potentially conflictive. Thus, they are bound to be rejected by everyone.

This is undeniably sad and unfair, but it's also true that these views, no matter how negative, are based on reality - obviously, not everyone's reality, but a reality frequent enough to create very negative perceptions nonetheless. Challenging these perceptions can only be achieved through increased visibility, showing everyone that bisexuality is not subjected to generalized moral imperatives, but individual behaviours. There are despicable people everywhere, even though societal pressures do play a very important role in the relationships that bisexual people have with the other two groups. Could it be possible to say that bisexual people are, often, cornered into hiding their true desires out of fear of rejection and isolation? I think it is. Society is very cruel with those who are different, and prejudice is a driving factor for many interactions. It's also true that, being in the middle, they may never completely rid themselves of the 'they can go the other way at any moment' cliche.

With this said, I think that women would be more likely to date a bisexual man, because women are conditioned to be more forgiving and accepting - even when being forgiving and accepting is painful and damaging to them. Also, as someone already mentioned, women are taught to hope they can change the men they enter in relationships with. Men are not taught to tolerate, in most cases. Women are taught to sacrifice themselves for the sake of a relationship, because they are derided and pitied if they don't have a man in their lives. "Alone" is a synonym of "failure" for women.

Gay men might be willing to sporadically have intercourse with these men, but the idea of making extreme concessions isn't something that most would accept (nor should anyone, no matter what sexual orientation might be). No one likes to feel like they are being used to pass the time until that socially acceptable partner turns up. This tends to elicit great anger among gay people, rather than resentment or jealousy (?) over the fact that bisexual people can blend into heterosexuality without problems. Equally, no one likes to be told that their sexual orientation makes them less deserving of love or acceptance - there are bisexual men out there who genuinely believe that they are better than gay men because they can potentially enter heterosexual relationships, and shamelessly objectify homosexual people. While biphobia seems to be prevalent among many, which is unfortunate, many people also seem to be overlooking the fact that some bisexual people are rabidly homophobic themselves.

Educating people in theoretical principles is an important matter, but only exposure, respect and honesty can ultimately be used to bring acceptance for misunderstood communities, in my opinion.

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[Ninja108]

Been dating a bisexual guy for over seven years..no problems here.

 

[refujiunderground]

well, to tell you the truth, i think that a bi guy would have a hard time dating someone who accepted them for who they are in today's world. i think that regardless if it were a woman or a guy, they both would give him flack saying that he doesn't know who he is and will say that he's a gay guy in denial. there's a whole lot of people that don't believe that guys can be bisexual. there's also this weird talk about how women can only be bisexual and it's acceptable for women to be bicurious, be confused and explore their sexual orientation whereas a guy can't do that without being labeled as completely gay. it's messed up.

 

[Medusa]

Been dating a bisexual guy for over seven years..no problems here.

Well that's because you are a MAN. You got everything he needs.

 

[refujiunderground]

you know something. i didn't want to say anything but i smell something funny here.

i've been reading medusa's posts and no offense to medusa, but it's like "she" is coming across like "she's" someone purposely trying to get a reaction out of somebody with some of the posts like the one in the connecticut thread and this one with bisexual men. just like an alias or troll would. am i the only person that is noticing this?