Gay relationships - not real relationships?

[barnbuddy]

if you take women out of the relationship equation, there's gonna be more cheating

but thankfully, also less bitching

but it's up to you to let folks know that you're serious -

and I thinks that's why we're fighting for marriage rights

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

help if countrys figure OOH if make gay KOOL betta get whole country in on it

not let da fittest or richest survive in it or them make use of it etc so on

like hey dudes world ova no give up da devil when ya know ya gonna get some heat ans whateva

all creatures on planet aint stooooopid floor wipes ta da ways of country so call ' ooh yesh we is well qualified '

15th century yawns

back ta nowhere ha

 

[fetaby]

I hear what you're saying, and did hear that reasoning before but have a hard time being convinced by that argument these days. We have been "free" to be ourselves for several decades now, in the West. We have our own communities, sub cultures, centers, clubs, public role models, figures etc.. and we are not repressed like in Iran or Pakistan or Yemen. I don't see what's holding us back from being committed to one guy without having to be in an open relationship cause someone gets tired or is afraid he'll be stuck sucking one dick only. Guys tell me how once gay marriage laws pass, gay men will be more serious about stable relationships. It's like saying if they pass new anti-drinking laws, people will stop drinking. I guess my point is that I don't see these forces in society today that hold a gun to our heads and make us chose the choices we make.

Old habits die hard. He's absolutely correct in that the perception of what is possible for a gay man to experience is only now beginning to change.

In the office where I work there are a few ladies. They talk of their children, they talk of their husbands. But they don't see my partner and I as equals, we are other. We are undefined in their minds. We all take vacation the same week. These ladies have conversations about what their families are going to do. They ask each other what they have planned. They do not ask what my partner and I plan to do. To them, we are not a family.

 

[sixthson]

Why would gay men be more serious about stable relationships just because gay marriage becomes legal?
You either are or you aren't.

Unlike Fetaby, I don't have trouble at the office, maybe because I own the office, but I have no validation of my relationship from my own family. I have had more than one sister-in-law tell me, too, that we can't understand what "real" parenting is like because we can't reproduce like "normal" couples. We are just not legitimate in their eyes.

 

[Adrock-JD]

I was being a little sarcastic.

Yes, but only "a little" because we all know it's true for so many.

I hate being so bitter and jaded on the subject but decades of experience have taken their toll.

On a lighter note, I just found some new dance music I love.

and, unlike most dick driven guys, it's always there when I need it.

The lyrics are coincidentally on topic.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MPyBbh1A2E[/ame]

 

[chrisw87]

speaking of this, I was listening to talkback radio on my drive home from work the other night (yes talkback, after 5-10 minutes I usually switch to BBC news radio though).

Anyways back to the point, this douchebag was blabbering on with his explanation about how people don't read science articles and express themselves properly a few nights before this broadcast.

That night while driving home I heard him blabbering on about how "gays can't have marriage because marriage is a culmination of love between two people, which ultimately results in the creation of a new life"

Fair enough, thats his opinion, I would be happy to allow "civil union" as opposed to marriage if it would keep the majority happy. HOWEVER he then made it worse by saying ( I am paraphrasing here) "Gays cannot have marriage as well because they don't have love they just have friendship"

I nearly had a roadrage poop, but instead just switched to BBC and didn't return to that station for a few days, self contradicting ahole.

 

[Sam Blum]

Gay guys don't want relationships. They just want to have sex.

If you think he's flirting then maybe he's not the right guy for you.

Why would should you worry about what your friends do? And if you do, then are they real friends?

No one owns anyone anyway.

Why on earth would anyone with any worldly experience ever buy into the notion that gay men don't want relationships? I think that this was tongue in cheek, but taken in context with the last sentence, it sounds oddly as though you believe this provocative assertion, Elvin 1.

Personally, I do want to find myself in another relationship with a man whom I can trust and laugh with, and shag often without worries that he's also banging half the population of my town. I have had a few lovers whom others have openly flirted with in front of me even knowing my relationship with those men, and it is not in the least inoffensive. It is enough to give me a strong desire to knock these fuckers on the side of the head. It's not to do with "ownership" of another person, it's about respect and solidarity and honour. If a guy (or woman) disrespects me in that way, s/he is heading for real trouble.

 

[Adrock-JD]

double post

 

[Adrock-JD]

^ @ ChrisW87: To him I would say people who aren't gay shouldn't pretend to be experts on the subject.

Of course gays can fall in love but, just like straights, it's rare for two people to be on the same wave length at the same time.