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dangrous

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this issue really pisses my off. i cant see why a homosexual man can not serve in the military.it may be because the heterosexual side is so ......violent to our side. but it still does not sort to me. does anyone feel this way too.
 
I was in the military and I was a lot gayer then than I am now, it's certainly very possible.

Now, to be out? I agree that it seems bad for gays not to be able to openly serve, but I will tell you that the ironic result of all the attention is that straight men no longer feel comfortable having quick sex with each other, which used to be very common. Open showers used to be common. The marines used to have 2-man sleeping bags. Those whistfully awesome days are no long gone.

Why, do you want to serve in the military? There's not a thing stopping you.
 
Also I recommend any of Steve Zeeland's books which are great first-person accounts of being gay in the military...he helped me come out. until I read those books I was sure I was the only one.
 
(*U*) uumm that was a intresting article. i will also try to read those books. and i want to serve because it is in the family. i am a very storng will person ssooo i was hoping to be ....a navy seal does anyone think that is wierd? :? :-)
 
dangrous said:
(*U*) uumm that was a intresting article. i will also try to read those books. and i want to serve because it is in the family. i am a very storng will person ssooo i was hoping to be ....a navy seal does anyone think that is wierd? :? :-)
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There's nothing weird about that, I think that's honorable. Believe me, there have been plenty of gay Navy SEALs. And there are plenty of fellow gays serving with you. Every time I go to the marine bar I meet at least one gay marine...and some of them are pretty out about it.

Go for it dude, serve your country proudly!!
 
dangrous said:
(*U*) uumm that was a intresting article. i will also try to read those books. and i want to serve because it is in the family. i am a very storng will person ssooo i was hoping to be ....a navy seal does anyone think that is wierd? :? :-)
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No, nothing weird about that. Just follow the example of the Melanesians and take as much semen as you can to be a great warrior.
 
Dude...it is not easy being gay and in the military. Especially in an organization like the Navy Seals. However, it is very rewarding. You just have to really want to do it. I've been in the Air Force for over 12 years. I met my hubby 3 years ago, so things have gotten more difficult (like me having to hide our relationship from the military even as we are living together). To answer your original post, however, yes it pisses me off too!! Good luck!
 
Lewis Black put it best when he said this on his "Back in Black" segment on The Daily Show.

"...We need boots on the ground! And if some of those boots are Prada, I say: FABULOUS!"
 
I actually have been considering maybe serving the country, I'm only 20 yrs old and after graduating, I havn't done much with my life, no schooling yet, kindof passing from one job to the next aimlessly.

Being gay and all, I've had a little withdraw from the idea. The problem is I havn't really looked into it enough to know just how big the risk is in being gay and in the navy or Air force- it's one of those things I just need to get substantial information about it all.

I'm a very strong willed person, I'm very determined- I'm just also one of those people that need to be PUSHED in the right direction. I'd like to build more self discipline, broaden my horizons, try new things out. Servin the country was never a path I'd ever thought I'd take when I was younger, but nowdays, I'm a little more open minded about it. It's an option.

My only concern is what'll happen when they find out I've been diagnosed bipolar- surely as long as I'm medicated they'd be ok.

Those who've served time in the ranks, got any real information to give me a little more insight on the matter? Thanks guys.
 
It is very hard to serve and be open/active sexually..............hopefully things will change soon.....
 
I recently met up with an army recruiter, and I am a little less willing to join in now.

After hearing that my stepbrother (who went in to be trained for the police force, was instead automatically sent to the infantry. He had absolutly no say in it.) That fuckin blows. The way I look at it is that if I join in (even just to be in media) it's a good possibility I'd end up a foot soldier in Iraq. Along with not knowing exactly how gays are treated in the army, I'm not too willing to join in anymore.

It makes things hard to WANT to join in and fight for your country when they're the ones who will decieve you, isn't it?

I still havn't checked out the air force or the navy or maybe just coast guard, but I dunno, I've lost quite a bit of respect for the whole program.
 
I have served with openly gay men and women in the service. it is not as if it is an open discussion but a person would have to be blind not to notice some. The people I have served with eventually figure it out. Who do you know who is straight and doesnt date a women for five years?

I feel the sacrifice of my liberties is simply one right amongst many that I give up to serve the republic. I will continue to do so because I am very grateful to serve but i do look forward to the day I can be married or at least beneficially equal.
 
Georgemichaelfan said:
I recently met up with an army recruiter, and I am a little less willing to join in now.

After hearing that my stepbrother (who went in to be trained for the police force, was instead automatically sent to the infantry. He had absolutly no say in it.) That fuckin blows. The way I look at it is that if I join in (even just to be in media) it's a good possibility I'd end up a foot soldier in Iraq. Along with not knowing exactly how gays are treated in the army, I'm not too willing to join in anymore.

It makes things hard to WANT to join in and fight for your country when they're the ones who will decieve you, isn't it?

I still havn't checked out the air force or the navy or maybe just coast guard, but I dunno, I've lost quite a bit of respect for the whole program.
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^that angers me i am doing exactly what i wanted to do in the army (military police) have been for 4 yrs (in april) and will reenlist again. I would go back to that recruiter and tell him look this is what i want to do this is want i want, and dont sign anything ensure you have that slot.

I believe that it shouldnt matter what your personal life is like as long as you are not hurting yourself then you should be able to serve your country. truthfully i am in the closet a few people know but thats it and they have more or less figured it out but i do know a lot of people who are gay and serve and do a damn good job. there are a few homophobic people here and there but in the army it doesnt bother too many people ive even brought up the subject and most answers were as long as they can do their job and watch their battle buddies backs then they should enlist. would i do it again had i had the oppurtunity hell yes. I love what i do.

on a side note Steve are you in norfolk VA area at the naval post down there? Im up at Belvoir
 
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