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Healthcare Passes! Thank You, Nancy Pelosi!

RedRubberBall said:
no i dont but i believe most of her district is marin county so she is safe

someone will check
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Even in her District, an Independent could take her place in Congress. Look at Edward Kennedy's seat. Today, anything is possible and likely to happen.
 
Nice piece in the impartial UK Guardian today which underlines the fact that many of the posters in this forum are completely out of touch with reality. The Guardian piece suggests that Pelosi may be the most powerful woman in US history and is the "best US speaker in a century".

Happy Birthday Nancy and thank you for running over all those Republican obstructionists.(!)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/26/nancy-pelosi-politician-speaker


Guess who will have the positive legacy?
george-bush-and-nancy-pelosi.jpg

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^ Who will have the positive legacy?

Neither will have one. The media and pop culture will not let Bush and reality will not let Pelosi.
 
iman said:
Nice piece in the impartial UK Guardian today which underlines the fact that many of the posters in this forum are completely out of touch with reality. The Guardian piece suggests that Pelosi may be the most powerful woman in US history and is the "best US speaker in a century".

Happy Birthday Nancy and thank you for running over all those Republican obstructionists.(!)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/26/nancy-pelosi-politician-speaker
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Good article, but she herself is mistaken about one thing. She is in fact pretty moderate. The political scientist suggesting she was way out there is a bit limited in his vision.
 
iman said:
Nice piece in the impartial UK Guardian today which underlines the fact that many of the posters in this forum are completely out of touch with reality. The Guardian piece suggests that Pelosi may be the most powerful woman in US history and is the "best US speaker in a century".

Happy Birthday Nancy and thank you for running over all those Republican obstructionists.(!)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/26/nancy-pelosi-politician-speaker
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They're not impartial. The Guardian is left of center.
 
iman said:
Nice piece in the impartial UK Guardian today which underlines the fact that many of the posters in this forum are completely out of touch with reality. The Guardian piece suggests that Pelosi may be the most powerful woman in US history and is the "best US speaker in a century".

Happy Birthday Nancy and thank you for running over all those Republican obstructionists.(!)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/26/nancy-pelosi-politician-speaker


Guess who will have the positive legacy?
george-bush-and-nancy-pelosi.jpg

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Depending on what happens in the midterms, Pelosi might not. You're also forgetting that Bush did more for Africa than any president in modern history, which will do quite a bit for his legacy.

Regardless, I think both will have a lukewarm legacy.
 
Droid800 said:
Depending on what happens in the midterms, Pelosi might not. You're also forgetting that Bush did more for Africa than any president in modern history, which will do quite a bit for his legacy.

Regardless, I think both will have a lukewarm legacy.
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Also it ends up being relative.

Back when he was President and then resigning, I thought Nixon would easily be the worst President in my lifetime. But he isn't.
 
Edward Twinkletoes said:
It's amazing how you can never get them to respond to this because they know the majority voted for the man who promised no mandate. It's an unassailable point and they know it. I have not had a single sensible response to it anywhere I've posted it.
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Yes, Obama was opposed to it, most of his supporters were opposed to it, and it's in the bill. So what? You act like he is the first president in history to embrace a policy he ran against. The world often looks different when one attains an elected office than it did when one ran for that office.

I was opposed to a mandate because I didn't like the idea of forcing people to buy insurance from private companies in the absence of a tightly regulated public option program. I would feel perfectly comfortable requiring a mandate to purchase into medicare. But the legislation we hope for is rarely the legislation we get. Moreover, it should be pointed out, no one is really mandated to purchase insurance. They have the option of paying for insurance or paying a fine. Since we all pay for uninsured people in the long run in the form of higher premiums or taxes, I prefer that the uninsured share some of the cost, instead of the insured paying the full cost.
 
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