Hide the 'niggers!'

[Joshua_me]

Oh, by all means let's take out all the offensive words.

After all, the last thing we'd want to teach our up and coming students is how to reason and think for themselves. It's best to whitewash history altogether and protect them from the realities of the past.

What could lead to a more informed and well balanced child than the re-writing of the history of their country ? It's worked well so far...

Now remember, kids: Columbus "discovered" America and all the pilgrims sat down with the "native Americans" for a big Thanksgiving day feast.

That was shortly before George Washington never told a lie and Abe Lincoln walked 10 miles to return a nickle.

And now a word from Viacom...

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

Oh, by all means let's take out all the offensive words.

After all, the last thing we'd want to teach our up and coming students is how to reason and think for themselves. It's best to whitewash history altogether and protect them from the realities of the past.

What could lead to a more informed and well balanced child than the re-writing of the history of their country ? It's worked well so far...

Now remember, kids: Columbus "discovered" America and all the pilgrims sat down with the "native Americans" for a big Thanksgiving day feast.

That was shortly before George Washington never told a lie and Abe Lincoln walked 10 miles to return a nickle.

And now a word from Viacom...

not interrupt post much

realites past very much taday NOT PAST what more mess up cause off spolit toons no idea shit but sure ya figure it but me read it ans go stick ma bit

thnakyou

world cracked eggshell not planet lot folks heads

 

[belamyi]

not interrupt post much

realites past very much taday NOT PAST

Of course not, as long as you keep being more resentful than remindful about that past.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

Of course not, as long as you keep being more resentful than remindful about that past.

what? go moon check ya eyesight think ya foot wrong land mine

 

[belamyi]

what? go moon check ya eyesight think ya foot wrong land mine

check ya eyeball... there may land mine

 

[LilBit]

Oh, Lord. Belamy and Sloppy having a conversation. This should be good.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

Why are there so many volatile topics like this - attempting to rile people's emotions?

Nowadays news (in the 24 hour news channel era) is not news -- just an attempt to get ratings by stirring shit up and get people angry.

That said--
censorship, especially regarding classic literature, is -- well, dumb.

yeah DUMBASSES

ans univesetiys give um bits paper go figure

 

[belamyi]

Oh, Lord. Belamy and Sloppy having a conversation. This should be good.

 

[AlmondMilk]

I also agree with this. It's the CHILDREN part that bothers me more than the word.

Maybe it's just me, but I've read a few books for middle and high school with offensive words and adult situations. It doesn't mean that I've grown to use such words everyday. I'd say when you're in high school and you read this literature, you'd be mature enough to read it and not start flaming those words down the hall. Then again, my mind's drifting from reality.

I say leave it alone, but what's done is done.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

Oh, Lord. Belamy and Sloppy having a conversation. This should be good.

this why folk around world what learn da face of cultures full piss think death get rest from da cretins one day

not entertainment>s someting USA above all countrys got figure ins all their 50 states

why title lie Hide da Nigger on a porn site is da most COSMIC of WONDER froms cultures so fuckin full of everythin no idea SHITTTTTTTTT but got lot up theri fuck holes want get fucked



anyway good thing in da REALLLLLL WORLD folks is moving on it ans da good ans not stuck in internet shit what crap out old shit long way pst da knowin

ans da KOOL FUCKKKKKK



ya mays backs ya pornins nows thankyou

 

[LilBit]

If i weren't in this chair...

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

If i weren't in this chair...

JOAN CRAWFORD!!!!!!

world sure a wasteland of senses

 

[Joshua_me]

If i weren't in this chair...

But, chew are, Blanche !

 

[belamyi]

If i weren't in this chair...

Just you try, bitch




So the stupid prudish topic of this thread would be giving way to a better direction, until the trimmers come around to screw it again.

 

[Kulindahr]

I was relieved to find a fairly serious content here, and prepared for the worst. I am an out and out antiracist. Editing Mark Twain for the twenty-first century is appropriate for use with school children.

You contradict yourself: editing Mark Twain like this IS racist.

It also destroys any value the book has in helping people understand the times, and to a degree destroys the story. There's a huge cultural content to "nigger" that is tossed in the trash by replacing it with "slave".

Might as well rape a girl to make her a better wife.

Where are the smilies for wiping ass or puking.

Actually, A dunce cap and thumb up the ass would work

 

[Kulindahr]

I dont like the word and dont like it used for shock value either.

You should talk about the thread topic.

Mark Twain is overrated. Why read a hyped dead man's work if you can go out and learn more about life that way.

What -- you own a time machine?

No kidding. When it comes to mandatory classroom reading, the word nigger is just as negative as faggot and has no place in our schools. Sure teach them about racist and homophobic slangs but don't force kids to read books that use the terms in an uninformative context.

So what you're saying is to turn the entire reading of history into an "uninformative context".

This book should be read in grade school, as it is. Among other things, it's an excellent tool for teaching people that words do not mean what you think they mean. Just that lesson, that words can mean something different to someone else, would make a big dent in the cultural divide in the country.

It was still a slur, as it was used to denote also that they were a lower class, including not as bright and deserving of their status. It may have originated neutral, but it quickly became an insult.

That said, Huck himself uses almost like kids today do, with no insult intended and just as a way to refer to a group of people.

RG

Same lesson as above, extended. The sound is not the meaning.

And when you suck the meaning out of a book and replace it with something sharply different, you destroy the book.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

You contradict yourself: editing Mark Twain like this IS racist.

It also destroys any value the book has in helping people understand the times, and to a degree destroys the story. There's a huge cultural content to "nigger" that is tossed in the trash by replacing it with "slave".

Might as well rape a girl to make her a better wife.

it not racist or racist it UNDERSTANDABLES but igonrant so deep of folk ya think way know betta cause educated

past of hisotrys pains teach an when human like shifftin sands no can figure da ground it is MUCH do when time a NEW but NOT special fa USA of it coleectin plots of land with folk on um

wanna fancy reasons a world is there not on media tv or award or movie

get off da racisttssssss DEEP is human shit what not no DUMBHEAD out any UNIERSTIY deal with or give piss about in da cahrade what go fa countrys supposys look after folkys what still centurys chokes rounds neck

no be afraid ta BE HUMAN fuck sake

 

[ShihTzuTylenol]

If you think a "red herring" is some kind of ruby jewelry piece intended for a female's finger...
you might be a redneck!
**try to imagine "canned laughter" here**

Sadly, we live among a generation that likely cannot even tell you the meaning of the allusion "sour grapes." THAT is telling.

By the way, that was a terrific essay, Hardy.huggie wugs
Give that man a Klondike Bar!
Hard-up has touched on some important issues concerning the contemporary state of educational standards, and I'd like to present a thought to help solidify his wonderful thesis, if I may...

First off: My impression of Jeff Foxworthy!

His material is tired and dated and I'm pretty sure he's only in it for the money now -- he's a "has-been" "washed-up" "sell-out!"

That's the IMPRESSION I GET anyways! My impression of jeff foxworthy....

moving on...and we're here.......ready?

ATTENTION: THIS IS NOT A JOKE!
THE FOLLOWING IS ACTUAL 1895 TEXTBOOK MATERIAL!
**imagine a collective sigh here**

**and applause w/maybe a couple whistles here**

Remember when your grandparents and great-grandparents said they only had an 8th grade education? Well, check this out.
Could any of us have passed the 8th grade in 1895?

Are we smarter than an
8th Grader
ver.1895.0
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1895 8th grade final exam
What it took to get an 8th grade education in 1895...


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8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, KS - 1895
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Grammar (Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of capital letters.
2. Name the parts of speech and define those that have no modifications
3. Define verse, stanza and paragraph.
4. What are the principal parts of a verb? Give principal parts of 'lie,' 'play,' and 'run'
5. Define case; illustrate each case.
6. What is punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of punctuation.
7 - 10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.



Arithmetic (Time,1 hour 15 minutes)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. Deep, 10 feet Long, and 3 ft. Wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weighs 3,942 lbs, what is it worth at 50cts/bushel, deducting 1,050 lbs for tare?
4. District No 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find the cost of 6,720 lbs. Coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7percent per annum.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft long at $20 per metre?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance of which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.



U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus .
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States ..
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton , Bell , Lincoln , Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, 1865.



Orthography (Time, one hour)
[Do we even know what this is??]
1. What is meant by the following: alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication?
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals?
4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u'.
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e.' Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: bi, dis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane , vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.



Geography (Time, one hour)
1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas ?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of North America .
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia , Odessa , Denver , Manitoba , Hecla , Yukon , St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco .
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S. Name all the republics of Europe and give the capital of each..
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth



Notice that the exam took FIVE HOURS to complete, and catheters hadn't been invented yet. I bet one of those kids invented them! outta practical necessity no doubt...


Time's up! put your pencils down....
Gives the saying 'he only had an 8th grade education' a whole new meaning, doesn't it?!

Also shows you how poor our education system has become and, NO, I don't have the answers! I'm still stumped on that orthography shit! WTF?
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[Kulindahr]

You're right, language is constantly changing, but the word nigger hasn't changed enough in meaning yet in order to make it required reading for school children. Maybe one day when it's no longer used as a derogatory slang I'll feel differently, but it's not okay when racism is alive and well and a book which kids read uses the word to passively describe black people.
.

So you'll keep an anti-racist novel from kids just because it has a word which offends you.

An approach like that destroys education by gutting it.

 

[desertfox008]

"Censorship is telling a man he cant have a steak just because a baby cant chew it". - Mark Twain