Homosexuality - What the fuck?

[Treborf]

Yeah, obviously if you have that many hangups about gay sex, then you're gonna have a tough time finding guys. You either have to be patient until you find someone who's only into the stuff you're into, or learn to like new stuff.

Besides, any sex that's worth anything, gay or straight, is kinda dirty and freaky, and leaves you thinking "damn, that was some wild shit we did last night". Anything less is just a handshake.

 

[BostonPirate]

ehh

I like sucking dick

I have no complaints on being gay

 

[ibill1]

Now that some of you guys have ripped him a new one, and rightly so, it is rather sad if he isn't just a troll. I admire some of you guys trying to be positive but to be honest I don't see him finding anyone that would adhere to his screwed up vision of what being a gay man is.

He did ask how some of us felt when we realized we were gay, and here in lies his problem. You see buddy, I realized I was gay as far back as I can remember and always thought it was normal, for me that is. Gay sex seemed exhilarating to me even as a young lad. I attribute this as to the reason I was able to fall in love at 17 and it all seemed normal to both he and I. I'm fortunate to love all aspects of sex between two guys. Anal, oral, whatever. If my husband wanted to do something we had a go at it. We had our favorites but it was all good. You need to find out the hidden reasons why, as it seems, every facet of being gay offends you. If you don't, I believe you are in for a lonely existence.

 

[fetaby]

Now that some of you guys have ripped him a new one, and rightly so, it is rather sad if he isn't just a troll.

No sadder than any individual who hasn't learned to think and live for themselves.

One thing I never had to deal with, believing I was wrong. Even when I was at my most closeted, I could tell myself that society says I was wrong so I must be wrong, but I couldn't really believe that.

 

[Bent-On]

Totally agree. I can't figure it out. I am only attracted to men but I crave intimacy...not sex. I do however want to be intimate enough for he and I to touch each other all over.
I want so much to have a male friend. I believe it could get very passionate if we fell in love and then who knows what might happen.
I'm thinking unbelievable passionate sex.

The sex doesn't even matter to me, just the reassurance that another like-minded individual is sharing my life.

[...] My experience... [...]

Yeah, thanks for the tip concerning the forum. And might I ask for the reason why your first relationship ended so abruptly? How did you two meet? And how old were you?

WOW! The first issue is that you are a virgin and your knowledge is limited to what you have been told, not what you have experienced.

When I was your age, I was married to a woman and had a baby to care for. Ever tried eating a pussy? Ever smelled a pussy when it was that time of the month?

The fact of life is that sex is messy regardless if you are hetero or homo. Just get over the disgust and enjoy it. Get out there and experience for yourself how great sex is. I believe your attitude will change.

BTW, I am a bottom and LOVE it!

Why did you first marry a woman? Were you still unclear whether or not you were gay? And with regards to your confession of loving the whole anal receptive experience. Why do you love it so much? The whole 'g-spot/prostate' thing is pretty much a myth as far as I can tell. And the anorectal nerve endings can't even process sensory stimulation the way your skin does. They can only process 'pressure' stimuli, for obvious reasons.

Check out the documentary Gay Sex in the '70s to understand why those men were the way they were, and why we have different possibilities today.

Haven't seen the documentary, and can't seem to get your link to work. (Don't make use of Itunes either.) But I did enjoy reading your post, however I do not agree with your assessment. Current HIV transmission rates amongst homosexual men are almost as bad as those in the seventies and eighties.

As to your remark concerning anal sex. It sounds logical, even reasonable, however I still do not want to associate sexual intimacy with going to the bathroom, or for that matter, run the risk of an accident. I mean, you're basically reserving a time-slot for the recreational use of your asshole. It's surreal and off-putting.

Your remark about falling to sleep in each other's arms was cool though. Are you two of the same cast by the way? Or do you guys have roles?

Now, all that being said let me tell you this... I LOVE my chocolate cake and eat it every chance I get...and if you never tasted it, then I think you are not living life to it's fullest. Just my opinion, and btw...I'm 46, gay and not too hard too look at, and I am hiv free and healthy...just as most of my friends are. Make the right choices and be true too yourself...I wish you the very best for your future.

I acknowledge the gist of your post, but it doesn't change my opinion on the whole anal thing.

Just don't impose your very ugly and distorted view of the world onto other homosexuals.

Not everyone in the gay community has the same outlook on life.

What country are you posting from before we can understand your point of view ?

The Netherlands. It's pretty liberal on the surface, but underneath it's just as conservative as everywhere else.

Yeah, obviously if you have that many hangups about gay sex, then you're gonna have a tough time finding guys. You either have to be patient until you find someone who's only into the stuff you're into, or learn to like new stuff.

I don't know. Writing this thread has been sort of cathartic. I might even consider posting my picture on one of these dating sites that I've been using.

 

[G-Lexington]

I grew up assuming I was straight. Why? I dunno. I've never been that visually attuned. Even to this day, I don't ogle hot guys unless I mentally decide I'm going to ogle hot guys. Attractive people simply don't "catch my eye" the way they seem to do for everybody else.

But see, even when it comes to THAT - the fact that I don't find people hot while going about my daily business - I never thought I was fucked in the head. I just came to the realization that I wasn't like everybody else, and I was cool with that. I never felt the need to pull out the self-flagellator and start punishing myself for it. Yeah, it meant I had to sort of feel my way through things my own way, but so what? I'm living my life, not somebody else's. Long ago, I decided I liked what I liked, and I wasn't going to let other people pick my fun for me. And that's true about the weird music I like, or the movies I watch, or who I want to fuck.

When I first realized I was gay, I didn't think anal sounded like such a good idea. I don't know if it sounded "nasty", necessarily, but it didn't appeal to me much. But once I got my first boyfriend, I suddenly decided I wanted to give it a go. I topped him first, and found out I really really liked it. Then, later on, I decided to go ahead and let him top me. And I found I liked that, too. Not as much, as it turned out, but I liked it.

Maybe it'll be the same for you. Maybe you need a living breathing human being to be in a relationship before you decide that you'd like to suck some dick. Or maybe you won't. But it would behoove you to keep in mind that most guys and gals like oral to some degree, and many (even straights) like anal, too. And I don't think it's because we're the ones that are fucked in the head.

Lex

 

[Telstra]

But are you a native Dutch or from those chopping your head off religions ?

 

[Bent-On]

I grew up assuming I was straight. Why? I dunno. I've never been that visually attuned. Even to this day, I don't ogle hot guys unless I mentally decide I'm going to ogle hot guys. Attractive people simply don't "catch my eye" the way they seem to do for everybody else.

But see, even when it comes to THAT - the fact that I don't find people hot while going about my daily business - I never thought I was fucked in the head. I just came to the realization that I wasn't like everybody else, and I was cool with that. I never felt the need to pull out the self-flagellator and start punishing myself for it. Yeah, it meant I had to sort of feel my way through things my own way, but so what? I'm living my life, not somebody else's. Long ago, I decided I liked what I liked, and I wasn't going to let other people pick my fun for me. And that's true about the weird music I like, or the movies I watch, or who I want to fuck.

When I first realized I was gay, I didn't think anal sounded like such a good idea. I don't know if it sounded "nasty", necessarily, but it didn't appeal to me much. But once I got my first boyfriend, I suddenly decided I wanted to give it a go. I topped him first, and found out I really really liked it. Then, later on, I decided to go ahead and let him top me. And I found I liked that, too. Not as much, as it turned out, but I liked it.

Maybe it'll be the same for you. Maybe you need a living breathing human being to be in a relationship before you decide that you'd like to suck some dick. Or maybe you won't. But it would behoove you to keep in mind that most guys and gals like oral to some degree, and many (even straights) like anal, too. And I don't think it's because we're the ones that are fucked in the head.

Lex

I also grew up assuming I was straight. I couldn't even comprehend the notion of being gay. It just couldn't accept it.

Anyway, it's a cool story. Where did you meet your first boyfriend?

But are you a native Dutch or from those chopping your head off religions ?

I see you've heard about our immigration issues. lol I'm 'native Dutch' -- or as we prefer to call it 'autochtonous'.

 

[alley]

Sex is good, sex is fun.


Ram rocks.

 

[sixthson]

When I was a teenager and first heard about blowjobs, I thought they were disgusting. I mean, who would want to put something in their mouth that you pee out of? Fortunately, I grew up.

What you are doing is pretty much the same thing except you haven't gotten to the grown up part. Before passing judgments on things you have not experienced, why not wait until you meet someone you like and get to know one another, slowly becoming intimate. You might be surprised what you will want to try. A hug might lead to a kiss. A kiss might lead to touching his ass which might lead to getting naked. You get the idea? You don't need to jump right into getting rimmed or fucked. There are so many things you can explore before heading into the more hardcore stuff. Also, you have a set image of how you want your romance to be with someone you have never met. Attraction can be a powerful thing and with it comes desire to express it, physically, emotionally, every way.

Stop trying to live tomorrow, today.

 

[Alan]

I knew I was gay from quite an early age (13) although I didn't come out until I was 19.

When you have a connection with another guy whether it's simply pure lust or the deepest emotional love, anything goes. Tongue's and cocks are allowed anywhere!

I've never had the feeling that any body parts were disgusting or anything - just very, very erotic.

Just saying.

 

[DarkHelios]

The whole 'g-spot/prostate' thing is pretty much a myth as far as I can tell. And the anorectal nerve endings can't even process sensory stimulation the way your skin does. They can only process 'pressure' stimuli, for obvious reasons.

Why don't you get a bottle of lube, poke a finger around there and find out for yourself? Wear a latex glove if it makes you feel better. Nothing like empirical evidence.

As to your remark concerning anal sex. It sounds logical, even reasonable, however I still do not want to associate sexual intimacy with going to the bathroom, or for that matter, run the risk of an accident. I mean, you're basically reserving a time-slot for the recreational use of your asshole. It's surreal and off-putting.

Ummm...sexual intimacy tends to involve parts that are used in the bathroom: Penises, vaginas, anal sphincters...

 

[BostonPirate]

straight people like anal sex too

just sayin

 

[bankside]

Haven't seen the documentary, and can't seem to get your link to work. (Don't make use of Itunes either.) But I did enjoy reading your post, however I do not agree with your assessment. Current HIV transmission rates amongst [STRIKE]homosexual[/STRIKE] promiscuous men are almost as bad as those in the seventies and eighties.

As to your remark concerning anal sex. It sounds logical, even reasonable, however I still do not want to associate sexual intimacy with going to the bathroom, or for that matter, run the risk of an accident. I mean, you're basically reserving a time-slot for the recreational use of your asshole. It's surreal and off-putting.

Your remark about falling to sleep in each other's arms was cool though. Are you two of the same cast by the way? Or do you guys have roles?

I added my clarification in red...

Sorry about the link - it is probably one of those stupid restrictions by nationality (I'm in Canada...) I found short clips of it here: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7McCcPzJhI[/ame]

I do not associate sexual intimacy with going to the bathroom either. With experience it becomes something that a person can just judge almost subconsciously as being a good time to proceed or we can say "maybe later."

Incidentally, any kind of sexual expression can be intruded upon by unpleasant biological realities. You should see what can come out of a vagina at the wrong time! And sadly, no matter what kind of sexual expression, timing makes a difference. Or perhaps I should say, happily!

If thinking about that seems like a distraction that would stop you from enjoying it, then there is still oral sex. The urinary tract (semenary tract?) is ordinarily sterile, and semen itself is inherently compatible with transfer to another person due to its potential in reproduction. From a healthy person, it is fun to obtain, and contact or ingestion is not a problem.

So perhaps finding someone healthy is a necessary criteria for enjoying sex? I share that with my guy. We are both free of disease and since we are monogamous, unless one of us is raped or is stabbed by a lunatic with a blood-filled syringe, there is no likely mechanism for either of us to become infected.

I'm not sure what you mean by roles. Do you mean sexually? We share everything. To me that shared experience is part of getting to know someone I care about.

By the way, HIV infection is coming down, though it has stubbornly plateaued. At least in Canadian data:
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/aids-sida/publication/epi/pdf/epi2007_e.pdf

I think the reason it is not falling further is a return to the mentality of the earlier generation that it can be treated so it is not such a big problem any more. That is ridiculous, but again that risk only affects people with that mentality, or those who choose to sleep with them. Neither I nor my man take that approach.

 

[G-Lexington]

>>>Anyway, it's a cool story. Where did you meet your first boyfriend?

He was my roommate in college. But back then, he was "straight" and dating, and I was still trying to figure it all out. We got together a few years later. It didn't work out in the long run, but that's OK - I learned a lot.

Lex

 

[WillMc88]

The whole 'g-spot/prostate' thing is pretty much a myth as far as I can tell. And the anorectal nerve endings can't even process sensory stimulation the way your skin does. They can only process 'pressure' stimuli, for obvious reasons.

Wrong. There is plenty of empirical evidence on the use of prostate massage. Google is your friend.

Also, speaking from experience, it is entirely possible to have an anal orgasm. Orgasms aren't just about sensory feeling, they're about perception. And seeing as how the brain is a vital sexual organ, one can derive pleasure from a host of different stimulation based on how it is perceived.

Btw, you're making arguments against sex, not gay sex.

 

[stutter032]

As long as i can remember i knew i was gay. I knew it was wrong, the idea of being gay scared and disgusted me. I always thought the same thing as you about anal sex. Why would anyone want to do that?

When i went off to college, i was more comfortable with my self. I knew i was gay, but i knew i hated anal sex. Even tho I never had it. I gave / got a good number of blow jobs in HS. So in college i'm out. And my straight friends would be like this is our gay friend sean who dosn't like gay sex. I would make a remake like exit only.

In college on night I had a bit to drink, there was a gay kid at the party we ended up going back to his room. We hooked up, safe sex and everything. I took it. I really didn't like it. So that added to my whole I hate gay sex.

A few weeks later I was drunk again, hitting hardcore on my roommate. Who I wanted so bad, the who reason i chose to room with him is cause i liked him, and my gaydar went off. We ended up hooking up, he rode me. It was my first time fucking someone. It felt great, I loved it. After i was thinking i was so attracted to him i wouldn't have mind if he fucked me. Give it another chance.

He broke his leg like a week after and had to leave. But my point is, you don't know until you try it. Even then it might not be enjoyable because of the person your doing it with.

 

[PreTTy PeTe]

He said this and still got serious replies from people. Wow.

This thread should've been a full-fledged GIF war by the fifth reply. Where the hell is Moe?

ok

 

[heroesnhunks]

Vandermemes crackin me up.

you can lose a gag reflex. Takes practice tho.

 

[G-Lexington]

I'm not sure if it angered me and my clan...or it's putting us to sleep. Either/or.



Lex