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how u found out u were bi or gay

sixthson said:
You know what, nine? When I read what you have written here, it is tempting to say "so what makes you think you are straight?". However, it sounds like you are uncertain about your sexuality because you have not been in love (at least you have not mentioned it). This does make a big difference. Some guys are just not cut out for the free and easy lifestyle, they need more. They need a relationship. Take your time, get to know people (both male and female), get to know yourself...in the fullness of time, you'll know. For some mysterious reason (at least to me) some people have an easier time knowing who they are than others. As I look back, I am happy for the struggle I had...wouldn't change a thing about it.

Well, sixthson, you're right that this is a struggle. I'm happy to say it isn't killing me, and I have some friends (gay and straight) who support me. So far, only history makes me think I'm straight, and history's argument is not very convincing. I have been in love, or thought I was, but never with a man. My last long term realtionship was with a woman. We were living together for about three years, the last two of which were completely celibate until the night we broke up, and that one last ditch attempt at physical love probably helped to put an end to things, of course, that wasn't only thing. I laugh about that night now. But, you're right: I'm pretty sure I'm a relationship type guy. And I can be patient. Each day I'm feeling a little more comfortable than the next so that's a good sign. Soon enough I'll just have to figure out where and how to meet fellas. Thanks much for your input.
 
Well, this is kind of a loaded question...

Looking back, I guess a long time ago. I remember admiring a friend of my brother's package through his speedos when I was about 10. And I always felt uncomfortable changing in the boys locker room and really liked (on the one hand and felt guilty on the other) looking at other guys all through middle and high school.

Probably didn't consciously start to understand it all until I was about 19 (I was a very late bloomer, so it isn't as bad as it sounds considering pubic hair didn't start to grow in until 16 or 17). Wouldn't even type "gay" into the search engine until about 20 or 21. Accepted it by about 23. Still trying to figure out what it all means in life.
 
jess22 said:
my friend asked if he could touch me so i thought if i said yes he would ask me and ask me but it felt so good we did more than just touckin;)

That's how it started with me, years ago, at a sleep over.

Of course at the time I had no concept of gay or straight, or any of that stuff.

Years later I got my first blow job from best friend at the time. It was as simple as him asking me "Have you ever had a blow job?" I said no, and he said, "Would you like one?" Of course later that night I gave my first blow job too. It felt GREAT!

It wasn't until I was in high school that I acknowledged that I really liked guys. I had some really great sex too! Of course it was usually under the guise of "we've been drinking," and that sort of stuff. But we both had a good time none-the-less. Both of the guys that I had sex with would later marry and have kids, but we still have good memories.

Later, while in the military I had a boyfriend and we lived together. But we both had "girlfriends" back home. I still didn't acknowledge that I was gay.

Years later, after college, I discovered that I had some gay coworkers. Once I started to hang out with them, and discovered that it was okay to be gay, then I came out. To myself at least. I was 27, and I haven't looked back, and don't even know where the closet is anymore!

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Well, I realised that I was different in elementary school...And I remember admiring Tom Cruise in grade 4...I actually slept with an for Cocktail under my pillow. Though, at the time, I didn't know that was "gay."

When I was in grade 6, I started buying exercise magasines for the pictures. Because I was still too young to do anything...I would just get aroused. But, I still didn't know that this was "gay." I actually didn't know that a term existed for me...until grade 8.

I was certain that my feelings for men were just a passing phase...but by grade 11, I knew that "something was wrong with me." So, I started adding to my nightly prayers: "Please God, don't let me be gay." I went through undergrad, still denying it. And in the first year of my Master's, I came to the conclusion that I was gay, and there was nothing I could do about it. So, at age 22, I accepted the fact that I was gay.
 
I think the first real realisation was when I was 16, shortly before leaving boarding school, which I will get to later. I'll take things in cronological order. Some of this is a copy-and-paste job from messages I have posted before and elsewhere so it may be a bit disjointed.

Thinking back now, there are several events that remain in my memory from much younger years, which probably suggest that I was born gay but didn't realise until I was older.

I do remember when I was very young (probably around 5, which would have been in the late 60's) watching some programme on Childrens TV. It would have been on the BBC, because we watched playschool and then the TV stayed on while we were having tea, then dad watched the BBC news.

This particular programme was obviously intended for older kids than I was. It was set in the bush or in Africa or something. In one episode there was a group of young coloured kids as extras, who in one scene crossed the screen naked. One boy, close to the camera, had a hard-on. This scene probably lasted only a few seconds, but it really stuck in my mind. I knew mine would go hard, but this was the first I knew that other boys' went hard too. The memory of the scene caused me to do a certain amount of fiddling with myself in bed at the time - and it still sticks in my mind today.

When I was at junior school (around 8 to 10 years old) I was always fascinated to see the other boys bits when we were changing for swimming. When we were getting changed after, some of the lads (the rough, football playing types) would prat around naked - showing they were "man enough" not to be bothered. Many got hard-ons, as did I while I was watching them. They kept talking about wanting to gatecrash the girls changing room during this to see the naked girls and shock them. I couldn't understand their interest in girls and wanted them to stay so I could watch them.

When I was about 10 I was sent to an assessment centre of some sort by the phsycologist who was deciding what school to send me to (in due course he decided on the boarding school). One afternoon myself and another boy of the same age were bored in the dormitory, and decided to play a game of strip poker. We retreated to underneath his bed in the corner, armed with a pack of cards and a torch. We did't know how to play poker, so settled on pontoon. One item of clothing off for each hand lost, and the first naked had to run around the dormitory. I lost but was too scared to do it, so my friend said we would keep playing and both run round together when we had both lost. But as we were about to, a member of staff came in, looked around, and left. We were now both too scared! Since we were both still naked, talk turned to naughty bits etc, and we ended up fiddling with each other for a while. It is probably nothing unusual, but it is one thing that has remained firmly in my mind as a highlight from what was a particularly gray period of my life.

When I was 11 I started at a small all-boys boarding school. There was a fair amount of sexual activity between boys there (I don't know if that's usual for these places or not). For me it started a few weeks after I joined, with an older lad (about 14 or 15) offering me sweets if I would help with his "experiments".

What he wanted to do did not seem unusual to me, and I actually enjoyed it and looked forward to th next time! In due course I started doing similar stuff with other boys, some older, some my own age. As I got older I tended to carry on the fun with boys around my own age. I didn't try to hook the younger kids, bacause there was enough around my own age to keep me entertained.

All this time I was telling myself this was just a phase. That I had sex with boys because there weren't any girls around. I only ever dreamed of sex with boys too, but I told myself that it was because that's all I knew.

It was only in the last couple of terms, when I was 16 and knew I would be leaving soon and realised that this enjoyable aspect would end, that I began to question things in my own mind.

This school had really been my whole life for five years, socially, sexually and in many other ways. So when I left at 16, I was lost. I started work in an apprentice training centre with other 16 year olds who had been through regular secondary schools. They talked about girls and sport a lot - subjects I knew nothing about. I didn't fit in, and felt very alone.

I went to college one day a week, and there was a lad at the train station who I thought was fabulous. No doubt he was straight and he was always having a laugh with mates, but I had a huge crush on him.

At this time I first heard “Elton’s Song”, performed by Elton John. On it's own I guess it's not a great song. But I was just beginning to come out to myself at the time, and the lyrics really hit the spot. http://www.eltonography.com/songs/eltons_song.html (The lyrics were written by Tom Robinson.)

I went back to visit the boarding school a few years after I left (I was probably about 18 or 19), and was sitting in the common room at the top of the dormitory. Some boys were already in their pajamas and some just had towels round their waists and were waiting their turn for the shower. I was already trying to keep my eyes on the TV so I wouldn't be noticed staring, when this georgous 14/15 year old walked from the shower, through the common room and into the dormitory, stark naked, with just his towel thrown over his shoulder!! I hope I wasn't staring then - but I know my eyes followed him, even though the dormitory entrance was behind me......

The urge to follow him into the dormitory and do something unmentionable was extremely strong - I had never felt anything like that before, and it too all the will-power I could muster to stay sitting there and let him go. A few minutes later I made my excuses and went home - I just wanted to be away from there, and to think. At that time I hadn't accepted my sexuality at all, I was scared and confused about what I felt then. And I was scared that I had had such a strong urge to hurt someone so much younger just for sexual gratification. I think maybe this incident put me back a bit - it enforced the view in my mind at the time that being gay was somehow "wrong".

A few years later, at my next job when I was about 24, there was an obviously-gay guy. I got on reasonably well with him but the subject was never mentioned because I didn't have the nerve. I'm sure he guessed though.

Then a well-sexy tanned blond guy started working for the company, in the same department as me. He was probably about 20 and I couldn't keep my eyes off him. We sometimes had to go and work off-site together too. My imagination was in overdrive, but I still did not have the nerve to do or say anything.

Then the gay guy got off with him.... and I was extremely jealous and upset. I felt I had lost an amazing opportunity.

As for me - my life was going nowhere. I was still trying to deny that I was gay, but I was having ever more problems believing myself. At 26 I was still living with my parents because I simply could not afford to move out.

I then got an offer of a job at a company that some people I had worked with previously were starting in a different part of the country. The money was good, and house prices in the area were more reasonable. It was the new-start I needed, and I grabbed it!

Somehow, in this new situation, living on my own in my own home, it was suddenly so much easier to come out to myself and to those around me. It was the right situation and the right time for me to come out.
 
Paul_UK, :wave:

THANK YOU! for sharing Your "story"!! We each have our own, and Your's is quite interesting. And, believe it or not, probably very similar to many others. Yet, still, uniquely Yours! I'm sure You have helped others realize they are not "alone'!! ..|

I'm tremendously glad that You have "found" Your own "Way"!! :D (!)

Best Wishes!! (group) :hurray: (!w!)

Keep smilin'!! :kiss: (*8*)
Ky ;)
 
Looking back on things, I should have known when I was 10 or 11. But, dumb me, it took some time. I really knew in my late teens when I was prowling the dark city streets looking for guys.
 
That's exactly the point I was trying to make in my long message. There are so many times when we should realise but we don't. And once we do begin to realise we often try to deny it.

So there is often not one specific point in time that we realise (or "find out" as the thread subject asks). It is a long process that often takes several years, tens of years or even more.

BTW - thanks for your kind comments Ky.
 
:-) I guess I relalized my gay feelings back in junior high school when I was with guys in locker room as we dressed for pe class and having jock inspection. Knew I had feelings for members of the same sex and glad I was able to admit and cum out.
 
I dont know if I am, Im 26 and have a sexy girlfriend, but lately I've really wanted to have sex with a guy.............I might be Bi, but I dont know ?

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I suppose I knew since I had any sexual feelings -- grade school. I knew I liked guys. I didn't figure out that meant gay until middle school, I suppose. I officially came out to myself as a Freshmen in HS -- but didn't come out to anyone else until I went to college. Knew I had to get out of my small town. Never felt that guilty aobut it, really, just knew it was a matter of getting to the right spot in my life to do what had to be done. ;-)
 
When i was in my early teens a couple of years ago, i only looked up straight porn. I got hard but I never wanked, cuz i didn't know about cum & things like that. I also used to stay up and watch (anyone from Britain will know) the channel 5 porn movies late on a Friday night to see the women. Then one night years later, it showed one of those old 70's romps and at the end, the man got stripped and was chased across a field naked and suprising to myself, i got aroused, looking at his swinging dick. Now curious about men, i went on the internet & downloaded a gay video. It was Personal Trainners II with Tim Hamilton and as i watched it, mesmerized, I ejaculated. I was a convert from then on. I still look up straight porn sometimes, when i get the notion.
 
when i was 11 or 12, my best friend wanted to be my girlfriend. She and I were together for a while, but she wanted to french kiss, what we kids called it lol. I didn't want to and figured out that I would rather french with her friend's boyfriend. god he was cute, but he moved three states away....*sigh*
 
Well, I've always been gay...I've always known I was attracted (in some way) to other boys and men. After watching an old home video of when I was 6 recently, I realize maybe it wasn't just me that knew....*sigh*.

I think in gr6 or so I found out what gay meant....so I figured out I was gay...then a while later I found out what bi meant...so I figured out I was bi....then I had a girlfriend....now I don't know what I am, so I'll just put a big question mark and call myself open (and highly gay). In reality, I suspect I'm gay with some damn good straight societal conditioning that leads me to want a normal straight life, not just in the grand marriage scheme but also in smaller things, like the smallest date or dance (with a guy or a girl?).
 
I found out I was attracted to guys when I was about 12 or 13. It was a gradual progression. I would get on the internet and look at naked women. Then I would look at women and men having sex. I noticed I liked the men better and decided to just search for men alone. I felt guilty to begin with, but here I am nine years later. I've always thought that I was exposed to hardcore sex too young. My parents did very little to restrain me. They probably couldn't conceive of their son doing something lude or anything else.
 
Like pretty much everyone, it was a gradual progression into knowing that I'm gay. When I was 10, I discovered my father's porn and when you're that young, you can't really make the distinction between what you're really attracted to. You're just turned on by sex, period. But as 11 and 12 came, I started noticing that it wasn't the women that did it for me. I guess I was 12 when I finally realized that all of that meant I was gay.
 
As far back as I can remember I was turned on by boys. I remember being very young and looking though JCpenney catalogs at the boy's underwear section. When I was in second grade my best friend (Craig) and I played touch and feel in the school bathroom stalls. I invited him to my house for a sleep over. That night he started grabbing my cock and then told me to suck him. I wouldn't do it at first but he told me that him and his cousin did it all the time. So I did as he asked and I loved it. Later that night he sucked me as well. I didn't know it was anything gay or even sexual I just knew I liked it. We continued to have "sleep overs" till about the sixth grade when he decided he no loner wanted to do it and called me a fag for wanting to have sex with him. He even told my other friends at school that I sucked him off. The funny thing was no one believed him. Everyone told me I should beat him up for calling me gay and sadly I caved in the pear pressure and beat him up after school that day. Even though he was the one that turn on me I still regret beating him up to this day. After that we no longer even looked at each other for the rest of grade and high school. I never understood why he turn on me all of a sudden when he was the one that started the sexual part of our friendship. I had a couple other "relationships" with friends though out high school but (Craig) was my first sexual experience.
 
spartacus said:
I found out I was attracted to guys when I was about 12 or 13. It was a gradual progression. I would get on the internet and look at naked women. Then I would look at women and men having sex. I noticed I liked the men better and decided to just search for men alone. I felt guilty to begin with, but here I am nine years later. I've always thought that I was exposed to hardcore sex too young. My parents did very little to restrain me. They probably couldn't conceive of their son doing something lude or anything else.

You would've developed same-sex attraction even if you had no been exposed to porn during childhood.
 
I guess I can also add that in gr1....I managed to develop a crush on both a guy and girl (since this fact is consisten later on, I've often though of myself as bi)....so in gr1 I was crushing on Danielle....and....Daniel. I had a pretty good eye for beauty it seems because Danielle ended up dancing and modelling and we actually knew each other for a long time, so it was funny thinking "I had a crush on you when I was 6". The guy was good-looking enough model later too I bet...

Of course my crushes weren't wholely based on looks (or best toys)....definitely not sexual....but it was obviously a big part of it.
 
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