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i am not gay- but why do i like gay porn?

lol
this thread amuses me.

Just cause I'm gay, does not mean I have to be "open minded". What is the open minded response to someone who is clearly expressing his inablity to find a tolerance zone for his own sexuality. Being "gay" does not, in any way, impare my judgement. Nor does it make me see things only through a "gay" perspective.

If this boy had claimed to be compeltly gay, but ONLY watched lesbian porn when he masterbated, what the heck would we be telling him?

He is clearly viewing the gay community in a NEGATIVE light, he is justifying his behavouir by relying on "I screw chicks alot", and he is stating that we are the ones "who simply can't understand his sexaulity"

Hmmm.....sounds like a complex to me. If he really was "bi" or whatever ya'll are calling it nowdays, wouldn't he have jsut been "I like boys and girls". As for the "I like girls, but watching men screw makes me hard", that's phsyically impossible. Unless he was attracted to the males in the porn, there would be no sexual stimulus for his mind to respond to.

The only other thing is maybe he's into the concept of masiculity being invereted, but even then, that's a homoertoic theme...

There's no way around that one: If you whack of to gay porn, guess what: you're sexualy attracted to men in some way. Doesn't matter how many girls you screw whatever

Let's drop the "open minded" thing:

This is clearly unhealthy to his internal health. Obvouisly, issues are going to arise at some point in his life and he'll need to process this before he can truly find his own version of life happiness. "No man can have two masters"

So I'm not being open minded in the same way that I would not be openminded that if a 14 yearold boy wants to sleep with a 60 year old man. He's may very well be expressing his sexality and exploring the complexity of his sexual prefernces, but it's unhealthy. End of story.
Same thing with this kid.

Why are we so quick to justfy unhealthy sexual practices with the old "he's just exploring teh diversity of the human sexual dymanic" excuse. So did Ted Bundy, are we going to defend that too?

I'm so sick of people telling me I should support unhealthy behavour, sexual or otherwise, simply because I'm gay. Being gay is a small part of who I am, and I refuse to deny my inner moral self simply because I'm gay.

Let's call it what it is: sexual dsyfunction.

And get on with our lives.....sheeshhh...
I'd be the first to support him if his choices were healthy,

but they aren't. (as much as anyone can tell over the internet)
 
ladygrey said:
Just cause I'm gay, does not mean I have to be "open minded". What is the open minded response to someone who is clearly expressing his inablity to find a tolerance zone for his own sexuality. Being "gay" does not, in any way, impare my judgement. Nor does it make me see things only through a "gay" perspective.
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Well, here's the thing. I think it behooves us, as a group of individuals who share a characteristic that makes us second class citizens in our own country, to try not to over-react to characteristics that other people may have which we don't like or fail to completely understand. And clearly you don't understand what this guy is experiencing.

So you accuse him of having "unhealthy sexual practices" and call it "sexual dysfunction". Well, what do you think people are saying about gay men? Do you think they are any less solidly anchored in their morality than you? Do you think they are any less sure of what is obviously right and wrong, natural and unnatural, healthy and unhealthy?

So, yeah, if "open minded" means that I need to remind myself frequently that there may be truths about life that I haven't yet experienced, then I think its something to aspire to. Especially when I, myself am the victim of oppressive actions by all sorts of close minded individuals in this country.
 
"So, yeah, if "open minded" means that I need to remind myself frequently that there may be truths about life that I haven't yet experienced, then I think its something to aspire to. Especially when I, myself am the victim of oppressive actions by all sorts of close minded individuals in this country."

I'm well aware there are many truths in this world. I've been privilged enough to have lived some of them. I, however, do not feel like a second class citizen. Perhaps that's because I live in Canada, but I feel it has more to do with the fact that I do not think that anyone in this world is somehow secondary to anyone else. I happen to think that no laws of man or social conditions can change that. And no matter where I live, I know that I control my life and the paramaters of it. That's true open mindness. I see the infinate within myself and within others.

However, I judge unhealthy or "dsyfunction" to be steping outside of that infinity. And yes, we are all unheathly and dsyfunctional in our own ways. And this boy, who is stepping out of his infinate nature by limiting what he believes about the world, has an unhealthy perpsective on sexuality.

My beliefs about what is "black" or "white" are moot. In fact, they have nothing to do with this conversation. On a deeper level, they also have nothing to do with my life. Perhaps the use of the word "unhealthy" is throwing you. A defination might be helpful then.

unhealthy: a behavouir or belief system that limits, restricts, or otherwise seperates expressed self from acceptance of unexpressed self

Jung might have called it rejecting the shadow, and others have certianly used other terms to describe it, but ulitmently,

it is living in a state of self rejection. There are varying degrees of this, as are there varying treatments

However, that is the state this indvidual we are discussing seems to be in regard to his sexuality.

Whatever that may be. (I strongly dislike using simplitic terms to decribe a complex human dymanic).

As for the majority you so pointly agrue reflect my beliefs,
you seem to forget that I not enspousing one perferred method of judgement or even reflecting a certian strongly held view on any of the issues discussed. Rather, I was making a series of statements regarding personal perspective. Also, I am not attempting to enforce my "convictions" on anyone. Finally, I am also willign to discuss differences of belief and viewpoint.

It is also important to note that I am not "acusing" or condeming anyone. Rather, I am stating that his behavouir seems constiant with a dsyfunction view on sexuality and that I do not feel that being grouped into a catgerory in which certian expectations about our "open mindness" are demanded.

I would like to point out that seeing yourself as the vicitm of uncontrolable cirsumstances is a highly limited belief about your life.

Be open minded and see yourself as having the same oppuronties, challenges, and life as everyone else on this planet.

The parameters may change, but the reality of the universial human experience does not.

And I repeat,
he whacks off to gay porn and claims to be not be aroused to it at all............

*clears throat*

sounds pretty gay to me. But then, it really doesn't matter, does it?
 
The best part of this thread was early on when the author, eyesforu, was still participating. If you haven't read the first few pages, they're pretty funny. I actually did start feeling a little sorry for the guy.

The thread died in May but then was resurrected a couple of weeks ago and here it is still going strong. Only without eyesforu, who hasn't made an appearance in awhile.

So I was going to say something like, well we're only talking to ourselves here anyways, but I first did a member search to be sure and I found out that the last time that he was on this site was...today!

Hmmn. Still likes the gay porn.
 
This guy says he is straight yet joined in december posted this post in april and had 60+ posts so why would you join a gay site?I think this thread was started as a joke or this guy is a liar!
 
haha

see? Clearly repressing his sexuality creating a seperation of self.

He'll turn into Tom Cruise if he isn't careful..
 
I have found this thread, most helpful. I'm a 21 y/old virgin from the UK and i think i might be gay. its not something i want to be, i just think that i am. i to find gay porn really erotic, i dont like lesbian porn but i do like straight porn. I do like girls but am not very confident when i'm around them and consequently have never really done anything with a girl. i like talkin to guys on line as i seem to relax more when talking to them. i always go through phases when i wont think about anything gay at all, and can quite happilly go weeks without any urges towards anything gay, but i always find myself coming back again and again. I dont want to be in denial, but i dont want to be gay either, i do like girls dont get me wrong but i have to admit that i do find myself attracted to some of these guys online and in the press. ive never fancied any guy that i know or been attracted to them in any way but gay porn stars/celebs/models i do find attractive. any genuine advice would be appreciated.

adam
 
im not exactly mature though, and i look young for my age as well
 
By the way, I like straight porn too. I like watching cute, young straight guys fucking a girl. I like seeing their dick before they stick it in and watching them gyrate and please their girlfriends. Very sexy. Very hot.

But notice...its the guys who are turning me on. And I've noticed that I need to see their whole body in the scene to enjoy it. Not just a dick in a hole.

So, I agree. Start your own thread. You'll get more answers that way. We won't bite.
 
Well ... I've waited awhile to put in my two cents ... BUT; I did counseling for Gay and Bi Teens and Young Adults for several years . Almost all wanted to be str-8 and "normal" .
I talked with them until they realized that "Normal" is objective .. that what is "Normal for me, is NOT necessarialy "Normal" for someone else ... etc ...
I also discussed that "being Yourself" takes a ton of stress off one's shoulders-mind ... and that there is NOTHING wrong with being Gay ...
My questions are: What do you find so interesting about the Gay Porn ? Why did you come to a GAY Discussion site ? Are you sure that you are at least 18 ? (I would say you are about 15-16 years of age ... )
Whatever your sexual orientation ; you need to get comfortable with it and deal with it ...
Good luck buddy .. you are going to need it ...
 
omg dude your SO not gay! its called rebellion. you dont get turned on cause its gay porn, you get turned on cause you dont think you should. its something secret and illicit and that turns you on like it does anyone. its not the guys you like, its the thrill (omg that sounded so tacky)
my suggestion, try transfering to some really disgusting straight porn with like anything you find really icky, and it should have the same effect.
 
"ps. omg ladygrey...you sound like the coolest person on the planet lol!"

clearly. One look at my avator should tell you everything you need to know.
 
I think I understand what you mean. I date girls, I have sex with girls, but I'd rather masturbate to gay porn sometimes. I'm not going to say I'm 100% straight because thats not true. But you're not as big of a freak as you think, I feel the same way.
 
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