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I found Jesus

The word "CURED" bothered me also. I have lived a hetro lifstyle for 43 out of my 46 years living, I was married at age 21, married for 21 years, and it has just been these past 3 years that I can truly say that I am happy! Happy with my self, and my life. I was raised in a very religious homophobe religion (Jehovah's Witness) It was very hard, I was taught to feel guilty about any kind of sex out out side of the marriage bed is wrong, yes even masterbating! I guess what I am trying to say is, a gay lifestyle does not allways include sex, you can be gay and not have sex until your in a commited relationship, I have done this, and am very happy. If one has ANY thoughts of being gay, I'd say do not get married to a woman, it would not be fair to you and to the other person.
 
SurfBoy18 said:
It took me 6 months on this board to distinguish between right and wrong. Some of the guys on here with their bizarre fetishes and beliefs. . .
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So you've spent most of your time here looking at the fetish board? I think you've just revealed what you really like.
 
all the angst about jesus...do you know how much time you're all wasting worrying about some fiction people who lived 2000 years ago wrote so they could control their fellow man's behavior??...you could be out there sucking my dick and getting high wit me. what a shame.
 
oral sex and spirituality are not exclusive to each other

self hatred can be universal if you allow yourself to be pigeon holed

I'm greatful for anyone's attempt to better themselves and question the meaning of things.
 
SurfBoy18 said:
Thanks dino, I let him take the wheel and we're headed to hetero land. I'm going to live out my life as a heterosexual male with conservative views and look forward to starting a *real* family someday. Why? Because it's the right thing to do. It took me 6 months on this board to distinguish between right and wrong. Some of the guys on here with their bizarre fetishes and beliefs, made this decision very easy. There's no looking back now, I'm well on my way to being "cured" and it feels awefully darn good! :)
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Sad, it's a shame that they've gotten to you. I can only hope sometime in the near future you will come to your senses. You follow the lead of the religious nuts out there and you will be miserable for the rest of your life.
 
If you click on "Surfboy18"'s link to "camescorts" in his signature, it takes you here:

http://www.narth.com/index.html

'the national association for research and therapy of homosexuality'

hmmmm, how very dubious.
 
1. I'm shocked that a lot of people here still proudly claim they're "heterosexual", want to have a wife and yet they like men. I can understand your sentiments, I've thought of living like this before, but I considered that it would be unfair for the woman, unless she is bisexual.

2. If you worship one God, don't name him Jesus, Allah, Buddha, what have you, as in the eyes of the other Gods, you will also burn in hell. Either way, you're fucked.

I've come into terms of being agnostic/atheist, if not believing in one nameless God, without affiliating with organized religion. I've heard before that, "well, I chose Jesus, because of all other Gods, he seems cool." Uhm, wtf? lol. OK tomorrow I'll call Jesus, next week I'll invoke Athena. It's like Ben and Jerry's flavor of the month, perfect.
 
Quite frankly this has little to do with true religion or spirituality and it has everything to do with cultural acceptance and normalacy as defined by right wing fanatics wrapped in religious drag and the flag. The pseudo conversion to hetero is simply an invitation to live a lie and dwell in an unremitting hell of self hate and self rejection, while depriving a potential wife and children, through emotional distance and isolation, of a real husband and parent that can love them in the ways they need to loved, to become and be healthy humans.

That's pretty damned selfish to do that just to pretend your trying to be normal and fit in. What do you think God is going to say to you about willfully living a destructive lie, especially through Hetero Matrimony and Parenthood when your really not Hetero? Do you think that pleases or honors Him?

Honestly, it would be better to serve Him either through celibacy if you could do that fruitfully, or as a single Gay man, or through a loving lifegiving committed lifelong Gay Partnership (Marriage) and a possible Adoptive Gay Parenthood that enabled you to honor and live out your own self truth as a Gay person created in the image and likeness of Divine Love.

It is the life of God-like, God-filled Selfless Love we live in our daily life in this world that begins and determines our Eternity. If you create for yourself and dwell in a living hell and drag others into, you will have completely missed the whole meaning and purpose of your life and of your relationship with God. Look before you leap!!!

I will pray for you and your searching of your heart. I hope others will do the same. May God Keep and Help ALL of Us!
 
Hi, Sorry but your reference to God as a male entity just doesn't sound right to me, I guess you are assuming, too, that all of us believe in God which is not the case.

I found it a little insulting to be honest but I know that's not your intention.

Say, I personally don't find being promiscuous as sinful. It probably is unhealthy, but putting so many restrictions based on a "holy book" to your life is not a healthy measure either. Sin and the concept of morality should be inherently arbitrary to the person concerned. I feel like being an "atheist" is even down below being a homosexual person in America. It is frowned upon more than your sexual preference which is really sad. People think atheists are evil and are self-righteous. I don't believe in a God or a Devil, a heaven or hell, for now. I'll keep searching though.
 
I was speaking as one Gay Christian to another, since this is about his very Christian decision. For my chief addressee, God is definitely, in Christ, a Him. The other thing, and I date myself, is that when I was growing up, it was the convention to refer to the divinity in the masculine, just as it still is in the professional theological journals that I read. Since my main concern is not to be PC for the whole world in that message, but to give a fellow Gay Christian something important to think about in his own faith context, I mindlessly lapsed into conventional Christian God-talk.

I APOLOGISE TO ANYONE OFFENDED BY THAT, SINCE I DID NOT MEAN TO OFFEND OR DISRESPECT ANYONE'S BELIEFS.

As to promisucity, that was what my reference to single Gay man was supposed to include since abstinance and Gay Marriage took care of the other options.

I also take some reponsibility for all the Agnostics and Atheists in the audience. If we believers, and especially we Christians, did not give such a terrible witness to God, maybe it would be easier for you guys to come to some belief. My advice to you is, Be like Albert Camus...he was a saint without a god. Strange to say, theologically, if you can not believe in how we present or project God, but can believe in divine attributes, i.e. Goodness, Selfless Love, Truth, and live them as best you can, that will count for much with God once you meet God, either here or hereafter. (Presuming, of course, that there is a god to meet in a hereafter.) I'm sure we are all going to be pleasantly surprised, if there is a God and a hereafter.
 
Such a shame, I've seen this lad on webcam and he really knows how to *work it*. Hmmm, there are enough catholic priests out there that might enjoy your conversion. ;)
 
I like Jesus but I'm leaning towards Buddhism, not as a religion, but as a philosophy and lifestyle.
 
SurfBoy18 said:
Thanks dino, I let him take the wheel and we're headed to hetero land. I'm going to live out my life as a heterosexual male with conservative views and look forward to starting a *real* family someday. Why? Because it's the right thing to do. It took me 6 months on this board to distinguish between right and wrong. Some of the guys on here with their bizarre fetishes and beliefs, made this decision very easy. There's no looking back now, I'm well on my way to being "cured" and it feels awefully darn good! :)

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Turns out he's only around 19 or so, and is still questioning his sexuality, not wanting to be gay. We all know what that is like. After having it pounded into our heads how horrible it is to be gay, when you're growing up and start developing these feelings, the last thing you want is to realize you are one of "them".

So now he is looking for any way out, any chance to be "normal". I actually went through that phase myself. It is so much easier to fit in than be your own person, and not everybody's circumstance allow them to be as individual as they would really like.

So let's cut him a little slack. Time is on his side right now. Let's just be here for him when he's ready for the truth.
 
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