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i need white people's perspective on this

In another thread, I quoted Bill Cosby, a well known black American who has been trying to deal with problems in the black community for decades. He says things only another african american can say, things that would get a non-black accused of racism for saying. The response from the black community has been negative toward him and as a result, the problems have only gotten worse. So for all the talk about solutions needing to come from within, he would strongly disagree.

If you love someone, you tell them the truth, even if it's painful. To see what's wrong and not challenge it, is not only unloving, it's apathetic, uncaring and selfish. This goes for an individual and a society.
 
I still can't believe all this chatter is being derived from an awards show, as if other award shows make their target races look good.
 
In another thread, I quoted Bill Cosby, a well known black American who has been trying to deal with problems in the black community for decades. He says things only another african american can say, things that would get a non-black accused of racism for saying. The response from the black community has been negative toward him and as a result, the problems have only gotten worse. So for all the talk about solutions needing to come from within, he would strongly disagree.

If you love someone, you tell them the truth, even if it's painful. To see what's wrong and not challenge it, is not only unloving, it's apathetic, uncaring and selfish. This goes for an individual and a society.

wen tis gonna start?


thankyou
 
As someone who identifies as black (most of the time) and has more than a little Irish ancestry. I'd point out that excepting the bastardy rates (illegitimacy to the more polite) blacks almost entirely match Irish Catholic/Italian demographics in the US from 1870-1920 or so. (Poverty, huge rates of criminality, general failure to use education as a means of escaping the first two, intense religiosity, and the cop/clergy/entertainer/small business owner/criminal career model.)
 
As someone who identifies as black (most of the time) and has more than a little Irish ancestry. I'd point out that excepting the bastardy rates (illegitimacy to the more polite) blacks almost entirely match Irish Catholic/Italian demographics in the US from 1870-1920 or so. (Poverty, huge rates of criminality, general failure to use education as a means of escaping the first two, intense religiosity, and the cop/clergy/entertainer/small business owner/criminal career model.)

hisotry is rite by idiots
ans mak da great nice folk taday
_it soundbite so need flufffins a bit_

thankyou
 
In another thread, I quoted Bill Cosby, a well known black American who has been trying to deal with problems in the black community for decades. He says things only another african american can say, things that would get a non-black accused of racism for saying. The response from the black community has been negative toward him and as a result, the problems have only gotten worse. So for all the talk about solutions needing to come from within, he would strongly disagree.

 
hisotry is rite by idiots
ans mak da great nice folk taday
_it soundbite so need flufffins a bit_

thankyou

Lol. I don't know if the make da great nice folk or not.

But I do know eighty years after the time period I'm discussing they are not demographically different from other Americans on most measures of well-being. I see the rapidly growing black middle class, the increasing rates of assimilation into mainstream American culture, the decline in hard racism, and the half-negro in the White House as signs that many of the ills suffered by black Americans are disappearing/reducing.

I'll also piggy back on a few other comments and say that social class/education is in 2014 a greater predictor of quality of life than race is.
 
then i'm told by my peers that i'm just a hater, that i should celebrate the fact that blacks even have a television channel considering it was less than a century ago that black activists would be blocked out on television stations.

So was everyone else. Worldwide.
 

Why does this always have to be said like a disclaimer? Discussing problematic facets of black culture isn't a demonization of black culture or exaltation of non-black culture.

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Are you talking about those wiggers like robin thicke and marshall mcluhan?

I can't imagine how many infractions I'd get for language like that but I think even the Mods are so bored with your trolling they're not even paying attention to you anymore.
 
Nah, most of the blame goes to 'best friend' parents that are not parents.

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So. Much. Win. Parents today teach their kids what the world owes them, what they should have, with zero emphasis on civic responsibility. The kids in my neighborhood toss their straws and empty juice cartons and old homework on people's lawns, they have no respect whatsoever and I can't imagine what they get away with at home if this is how they treat complete strangers' property.
 
This is not a Black thing whites are best and dumbing down. Here in England doing a poll of HS age kids the majority thorough the Nazi's were responsible for WW1. The world is getting stupider. Some of it helped along by the overpowering belief that tehre was a God and his son Jesus and a Prophet name Mohammed .
 
The world's getting stupider, perhaps starting with grammar and syntax.
 
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