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In Canada we call people from the USA, étatsuniens. At least when we're speaking French. It is the equivalent of unitedstatesians.

I have never met a Canadian in my life that would call himself an American… unless he has dual citizenship with the United States.

Without exception, the whole thing from Ellesmere Island to Tierra del Fuego is never ever referred to as America. If you had to speak about the whole land mass from tip to tip, you would have to say "North and South America" to be understood here. Or in most cases you could also just call it "the western hemisphere" or "the new world" and it would be understood. The adjectives follow. I'm a North American, not an American. Someone from Columbia is a South American, not an American.

We don't call the United States "America." That would sound decidedly odd. When I think back to people I know who have travelled there, they would all say "Oh, I'm going to the States for a holiday," or "I'm going to the US" but never "I'm taking a business trip next month to America." In Canada, there is no country called "America." However, since there is no other possible use of the word in Canadian English that would cause any confusion, we refer to the nationality as American. Makes sense? Who can say. The way it is? Definitely.

In casual conversation, in a discussion of limeys, kiwis, aussies and canucks, we would call them yanks. When I was 30, I learnt this is apparently unpopular for someone who traces his roots to Atlanta. So, if you're from Georgia or Texas or Louisiana, sorry, but you're yanks.

Finally, there is no real definition of where one continent ends and another begins. Probably because "geography" started out as less of an international science and more the "mapmaking department of the local army." So each country or region has its own historical biases and its own academic conventions about where one continent ends and another begins. I was taught that Mexico to Panama and the Caribbean is "Central America," while apparently Mexicans are taught they are part of "North America." I'm sure the Europeans also argue over who is an east European or a central European depending as much as anything on the political aspirations of the government of the day.

So is the Columbian wrong? I don't care. If geographers can't figure it out amongst themselves whether we have 3 continents or 7 or any number in between, what hope do the rest of us have. If he's visiting Canada, he's not an American, he's a South American.

BTW, what do you call someone from the Australian / New Zealish part of the world or the adjacent islands? They've tried to get "Oceania" to catch on as the name of the region, but I don't know anyone who has actually called it that in conversation.
 
I would say America refers to the nation rather than the continent in my mind. I was always taught the 7 continent model. I can see the confusion though if Spanish speaking countries teach a different model. I have always heard Spanish speakers talk of Sudamerica though. Saying that in footballing terms the continental cup for South America is the Copa America, which only allows for nations within the area known as South America (at least to us in non spanish speaking countries if you insist).

I would personally choose option 1 since America is used in place of USA like Britain is for UK.
Don't wonder into that one, Britain and the UK are different things!
 
BTW, what do you call someone from the Australian / New Zealish part of the world or the adjacent islands? They've tried to get "Oceania" to catch on as the name of the region, but I don't know anyone who has actually called it that in conversation.

I call it Oceania if I am referring to Aus/NZ/Pacific as the continent. But if its just he Pacific Islands region of that continent I then drop into the 3 nesia's.
 
Our recent use of "Asian" to avoid saying "Orientals" has led to this odd appellation. Indians would not have self-identified as Asian before this -- they would have simply said Indian.
Maybe we in Britain are to blame for , I don't know. But I know Asian always meant someone from the Indian subcontinent, mainly just to not get their nationality wrong.

People outside Europe tend to identify by nationality, not continent.
I think in Europe we don't really identify as European. Certainly not in Northern Europe at least. Whereas I have heard much more pan-African identity used by people from a number of African nations.
 
I'm sure it varies tremendously by country, but I've always heard Spanish speakers refer to us as E.E. U.U., Estados Unidos, or when referring to us as a people and not a country, as nortes or norteamericanos. Not as "Americans."
 
I think it is egocentric for US Americans to consider themselves they only legitimate "Americans" when they will routinely refer to Europeans and Africans and Asians according to their continent.

North, Central and South Americans have one thing in common..."America". They may be Bolivian...or Costa Rican...but they are also American. There is no problem with the Austrian refers to himself as Austrian or Eurpean...and no one raises an eyebrow when the typical US Citizen refers to the Gambian man as African simply because he is from the continent of Africa...so why would it be odd for anyone in the Americas to consider themselves American?
 
In France when we say 'je vais en amérique', it means I go to the USA. If we say 'les américains' it is instantly understood to mean the inhabitants of the USA.

If we mean other countries, or people, we add distinctive nouns or adjectives.

The complete list of countries and territories in the Americas :

1 United States
2 Brazil
3 Mexico
4 Colombia
5 Argentina
6 Canada
7 Peru
8 Venezuela
9 Chile
10 Ecuador
11 Guatemala
12 Cuba
13 Haiti
14 Bolivia
15 Dominican Republic
16 Honduras
17 Paraguay
18 El Salvador
19 Nicaragua
20 Costa Rica
21 Puerto Rico (US)
22 Panama
23 Uruguay
24 Jamaica
25 Trinidad and Tobago
26 Guyana
27 Suriname
28 Guadeloupe (France)
29 Martinique (France)
30 Bahamas
31 Belize
32 Barbados
33 French Guiana
34 Saint Lucia
35 Curaçao (Kingdom of the Netherlands)
36 United States Virgin Islands (US)
37 Aruba (Kingdom of the Netherlands)
38 Grenada
39 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
40 Antigua and Barbuda
41 Dominica
42 Bermuda (UK)
43 Cayman Islands (UK)
44 Greenland (Denmark)
45 Saint Kitts and Nevis
46 Sint Maarten (Kingdom of the Netherlands)
47 Saint Martin (France)
48 Turks and Caicos Islands (UK)
49 British Virgin Islands (UK)
50 Caribbean Netherlands (Kingdom of the Netherlands)
51 Anguilla (UK)
52 Saint Barthélemy (France)
53 Saint Pierre and Miquelon (France)
54 Montserrat (UK)
55 Falkland Islands (UK)
 
I have been thinking about this a bit all day (yeah I am that sad!) and I really don't understand who views N&S America as one. I even asked a Colombian friend about the topic and he stated that he has never been taught they were the same continent.
If they are to be considered one purely on the idea that its one land mass then Europe, Asia and Africa have to be viewed as one.
Either way, I can understand why some really anal people might not like yanks taking the tag of Americans. But I think how we create collective nouns for nationalities in English plays a part. It would sound very odd to say United Stateser, so we have to use the later half of the name and make it American (similarly to in the United Kingdoms of Great Britain and Northern Ireland). It seems in Spanish it sounds correct to say "soy de los Estados Unidos", which is fortunate for them I guess.
 
Hey Taz, first, I have not read the replies so forgive me if someone else has said this.

I would say the entire Western Hemisphere is "America", the New World. The combined continental landmass of the North American and South American continents in the Western Hemisphere, along with their associated islands, the Caribbean, and Greenland.

Historically, it's named after Amerigo Vespucci, the sixteenth century explorer and cartographer.

I consider the United States of America just one country in the "New World".
 
From what I have gathered from this thread, Facebook, and another forum I visit, For me it's safe to say the best way to refer to a people is by the name of their country. (As I had previously held)

While I can understand why people may feel slighted by the fact people from the states are most commonly known as Americans, I think it's a waste of energy to be upset or offended by it.

Thank you Americans, Canadians, Brits, Frenchmen, Amsterdammers, Spanish, Australians and anyone I have missed for contributing. I'll be sure to get my friends to read these opinions
 
Clearly Mexicans understand America to mean the USA - a football commentator just the other day screamed God bless America http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/...s-usa-for-world-cup-chance-as-el-tri-survive/

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Clearly Mexicans understand America to mean the USA - a football commentator just the other day screamed God bless America http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/16/god-bless-america-mexico-thanks-usa-for-world-cup-chance-as-el-tri-survive/
 
From what I have gathered from this thread, Facebook, and another forum I visit, For me it's safe to say the best way to refer to a people is by the name of their country. (As I had previously held)

While I can understand why people may feel slighted by the fact people from the states are most commonly known as Americans, I think it's a waste of energy to be upset or offended by it.

Thank you Americans, Canadians, Brits, Frenchmen, Amsterdammers, Spanish, Australians and anyone I have missed for contributing. I'll be sure to get my friends to read these opinions

You definitely got incredibly thorough answers here, Taz, but just throwing in my 2 cents at the end,

when the world says "America" they usually mean the U.S. exclusively, and U.S. people do call themselves "Americans", but I have heard people express a sense of slight when they too are from the Americas and only U.S. people are considered "American", so I try to just stick to referring to country--- although the people of the U.S. do call themselves Americans.

An example of where this gets muddy is when you hear someone in the U.S. say something like "Speak American." I immediately rattle off something in Blackfoot, on purpose, when they say that. It never makes any sense because I barely know any Blackfoot but it makes my point.
 
Now what about Greenland? Geographically is it part of America?

Yes it is as is Cuba, and once again Columbus did land in North America because that is where the islands of the Bahama's are located, as are the West Indies which he was aiming for. Now its not the mainland but its as much North America as Panama.
 
Canada, USA, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Mexico, Belize, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Panama, Nicaragua, Colombia, Venezuela, Guyana, French Guiana, Suriname, Ecuador, Peru, Chile, Bolivia, Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay, Argentina.

I suppose I'm forgetting some countries in Central America and Caribe.
 
Ok thanks guys that's heaps, now let me explain.

I'm with a few angry Americans at the moment, from Colombia.

They claim, truthfully that the entire continent you inhabit is in fact called America, and as such there are quite a few Countries in America.

Our argument was based around the fact that Most English speaking countries refer to the states as America, and Americans live there. Their problem with this, is that they argue, much of the world don't differentiate between that states, and the entire continent when this is expressed. I argued that of course they do, everyone knows that america is the continent, but it is widely understood that referring to america or Americans is singling out The US.

My question was a small test sample, as well as a few others on other social networks to see how many of you differentiate between America as a continent, or only see America as the United States.

Thanks :)

Language influence. In Spanish America is used for the continent not for USA. All Latin American I've met are very proud of their continent. I can see why they'd feel angry for the exclusive use of America for just one country.
 
Canada, USA, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Mexico, Belize, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Panama, Nicaragua, Colombia, Venezuela, Guyana, French Guiana, Suriname, Ecuador, Peru, Chile, Bolivia, Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay, Argentina.

I suppose I'm forgetting some countries in Central America and Caribe.

Jamaica? hmmm what's Caribe?
 
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