i saw a motorcycle accident! :(

[Silvernitrate]

Today my friends and i were walking home down on sunset here in hollywood and there was a party going on at this club called the social. Well, there happend to be all these girls right outside waving at the traffic, and this guy on a motorcycle waved at the girls, and when he turned back around he didnt realize the traffic came to a stop! He tried missing the suburban by squeezing in between the cars to the left, but he hit the suburban on the back left corn and he bounced off into the next lane, which was the oncoming traffic! So, him and his bike hit a Scion xB! It just looked like he was a ping pong ball getting hit back and forth. It was so scary and I felt so bad for him ! He was actually able to get up after it, which was a reliefe, but I still felt very bad for him ! It freaked me out!

 

[star-warrior]

Not paying attention to the traffic is what often gets motorists into trouble. Its one of the first things they tell you to do when you begin driving. That guy really oughtn't've been waving at them girls. Now he knows why.

 

[provenlogic]

Motorcycles are death traps . Sorry to any motorcyclists out there! But you guys know the odds, and please, wear helmets!

 

[Silvernitrate]

Motorcycles are death traps . Sorry to any motorcyclists out there! But you guys know the odds, and please, wear helmets!

seriously! But even after seeing this, i still want one!

 

[1gayguy]

Biggest load of rubbish ever.

Bikes arent dangerous.

People riding them and people around them are dangerous.

Let's be real, the mode of transportation is dangerous. As is any mode of transportation. They are called accidents for a reason. There are any number of causes for accidents to happen including mechanical failure and weather.
While this particular accident was caused by driver inattentiveness not all are.
I recall seeing a bike accident where on the particular stretch of road at a particular time of day where the setting sun was right at eye level. A person in a car made a right turn in front of the motorcycle that was facing into the sun. The bike slammed boadside into the car shattering both side windows on the car. The biker slammed his head into the roof of the car before flipping over the car landing first on the trunk lid then the pavement. Luckily the rider was wearing a helmet so there were no head injuries. He did suffer a broken leg and arm, possible fractured pelvis and mulriple ribs.
The driver of the car recieved no injuries.
Bikes are inherently more dangerouse because of lack of protection around the rider. There are no seat belts, no airbags. The size alone is a disadvantage making them eaiser to fit into blindspotsand just easier not to see. In my state, riders don't even have to where helmets and you'd be surprised at the number of riders that don't.

 

[provenlogic]

Biggest load of rubbish ever.

Bikes arent dangerous.

People riding them and people around them are dangerous.

Ok... Come on. Let's be real here. You are MUCH more likely to die in ANY accident if you are riding a motorcycle than if you are riding in a car. Motorcycles are dangerous, they offer little to NO protection in the event of an accident. If we go by the assertion that motorcycles aren't dangerous, and that it's the people and the environment they're in that makes them dangerous, then hurricanes aren't dangerous either. It's just the land, property, and people that get in their way that makes them dangerous.

Look, i'm not saying or advocating people not riding motorcycles, i'm just saying they ARE dangerous. People willing to accept that risk can by all means ride to their heart's content. People do dangerous things all the time, but just be aware of the risk, that's all i'm saying. And for deity's sake, wear your helmets riders!

 

[SexyLiciousBoy]

That's scary!!!!!

 

[cbtfan]

I don't call them motorcycles. I call them (organ) Donor cycles.

 

[1gayguy]

If you want to be pedantic, then ok. Using the hurricane example. They arent that dangerous. It is the buildings etc which make them dangerous. If we built buildings properly which were able to withstand them, there'd be far less damage.

It's the same with the firearm argument. Guns are not dangerous... it's the person using them that's dangerous.

Motorcycles are not dangerous machines. If people rode them with the respect they command, and other road users got it into their heads to LOOK properly at junctions etc, then the machines will prove that they're no more dangerous than cars. Or more correctly, cars are not far safer than motorcycles as people think.

I speak from a position of authority on the subject, 40,000miles covered on a various machines in my first year of riding, and a further 45,000 miles in the second year. I was on track to get a safe 50,000+ in my 3rd year, but ended up selling the bike. (for comparison the UK average is 4,000 miles a year).

The only time i had an accident is when I got complacent and didn't respect the machine, i came of at over 110mph... it hurt like hell. The only other time i've been close to an accident is when a cage driver failed to observe properly as he emerged from a side road.

The bike on it's own never killed me, never injured me... motorcycles are not dangerous.

Going with this logic, in the last 12 years I have personally driven over 300000mile in a car and never had major at fault accident. I was rear ended twice. So I guess I can say that cars are safer tham motorcycles?

 

[provenlogic]

If you want to be pedantic, then ok. Using the hurricane example. They arent that dangerous. It is the buildings etc which make them dangerous. If we built buildings properly which were able to withstand them, there'd be far less damage.

It's the same with the firearm argument. Guns are not dangerous... it's the person using them that's dangerous.

Motorcycles are not dangerous machines. If people rode them with the respect they command, and other road users got it into their heads to LOOK properly at junctions etc, then the machines will prove that they're no more dangerous than cars. Or more correctly, cars are not far safer than motorcycles as people think.

I speak from a position of authority on the subject, 40,000miles covered on a various machines in my first year of riding, and a further 45,000 miles in the second year. I was on track to get a safe 50,000+ in my 3rd year, but ended up selling the bike. (for comparison the UK average is 4,000 miles a year).

The only time i had an accident is when I got complacent and didn't respect the machine, i came of at over 110mph... it hurt like hell. The only other time i've been close to an accident is when a cage driver failed to observe properly as he emerged from a side road.

The bike on it's own never killed me, never injured me... motorcycles are not dangerous.

Relativity my dear, relativity. If you want to shift the reasoning left or right of center, be my guest. But it's the same lexicon, danger. Yes yes, the pieces of plastic and metal that make up the motorcycle aren't dangerous, you're right, but give me a break here, we all know the idea of what we're talking about here. If you zero out every other variable, you are still left with the inescapable conclusion that you are more likely to get injured or killed when involved in an accident in a motorcycle, than if you were in a car.

You can't just skip over that as if it's untrue and a non-sequitur, it's not. And to me, and most everyone else, that means they're more dangerous. And yes, if we made cars and roads and walls out of fluffy pastry, when people riding motorcycles hit them, they would be in a safer situation. But really, does that really mean the motorcycle is less dangerous? Not in my book.

Again, Me = no problem with people who ride motorcycles. Have fun. Do what you like. I just think it's kind of odd that someone who rides motorcycles thinks they're not dangerous. I drive a car, i think that's dangerous too, but i know, admit, and understand that. *shrug*

And really, you just told someone that lived through Hurricane Katrina, and helped evacuate people from New Orleans, that Hurricanes aren't that dangerous.

 

[provenlogic]

For example. If you get someone to stand in 160mph winds, in a wind tunnel - nothing happens. Their face flaps about a bit, it's a little uncomfortable etc, but its HARMLESS... introduce debris into that same wind tunnel, and the person suddenly gets ripped to pieces.

The wind isn't dangerous.. the debris is.

Ok,

A. That's absolutely absurd.

B. A 180lb person is blown over by winds of 45mph, at 160mph they would be smashed into the wall of that wind tunnel and would be likely to suffer some internal injuries. Saying otherwise is rediculous, and show's a complete lack of understanding of basic physics. If you really beleive any person could stand up in 160mph winds, that's just crazy talk.

C. I suppose all those roofs torn off homes are because debris hit them and not because the wind tore them off?

D. You are more likely to get killed or injured in an accident on a motorcycle because thin air makes a far less effective barrier than plastic and metal.

 

[Soilwork]

MAN, this arguement pisses me off.

It's usually people who dont' know how to ride who act like the motorcycle itself is going to jump out and kill them.

Yes.. a bike is dangerous but the people who get seriously hurt in accidents are usually the losers who are riding way too fast and not paying attention. Like the guy in this story.

I've been riding for years.. yes.. I've been in a few accidents but aside from the time I got run off the road, I've never really been hurt. Even that time I was up on my feet in a few seconds.

 

[G-Lexington]

>>>For example. If you get someone to stand in 160mph winds, in a wind tunnel - nothing happens. Their face flaps about a bit, it's a little uncomfortable etc, but its HARMLESS...

Actually, no. It'd blow that person backwards against the screen. But then again, the wind is utterly harmless. It's that damned screen that would cause the damage. And guns actually are completely safe. It's the BULLETS that cause the damage.

Isn't semantics fun?

By my way of thinking, no, motorcycles aren't inherently "dangerous". I do think they're more dangerous than cars, simply because there's no shell surrounding the person, there's a question of balance, etc etc. So people ARE more likely to get hurt in a motorcycle accident than a car accident. And yes, idiots will be idiots.

Lex

 

[provenlogic]

MAN, this arguement pisses me off.

It's usually people who dont' know how to ride who act like the motorcycle itself is going to jump out and kill them.

Yes.. a bike is dangerous but the people who get seriously hurt in accidents are usually the losers who are riding way to fast and not paying attention. Like the guy in this story.

I've been riding for years.. yes.. I've been in a few accidents but aside from the time I got run off the road, I've never really been hurt. Even that time I was up on my feet in a few seconds.

No one said the motorcycle was going to jump out and kill someone. I think the basic argument is that they are dangerous, in that bodily harm is likely to occur in a motorcycle accident than in an accident with no motorcycle.

Training, competence, and a general sense of balance all lessen the risk involved, but no matter how good a rider you are, there is still risk, and higher risk than in other vehicular activities.

 

[Shepherd 2]

Here in Pennsylvania we permit riders without
helmets. The effect has been to reduce measurably the
number of cyclists.
Shep+

 

[mark1111]

I was going to work early one day (in a car), hardly any one on the road. Traffic light ahead is red, I slow down. It turns green before I get to it, I notice a motorcycle coming up from behind me. I check him out as he passes me, then, WHAM! A car came from the side road, that should have been stopped for the red light (ours turned green). The motorcycle hit the car about right in the middle, behind the driver. He went up and over a street light, the bike went end over end quite a few times. The driver, when he stopped got out of his car and screamed about the damage to his car!

This poor guy was minding his own business on his way to work. Look what happened. I don't care who's fault it is, they are still more dangerous than riding in cars.

 

[backpacker]

that's what he gets for being straight.

That was my thought first thought.

Motorcycles are more dangerous than cars, but they are also a whole lot more fun. It's a risk verses reward situation.

 

[FastHabit]

Motorcycles ARE more dangerous - duh.

Here's a few facts:

- The majority of motorcycle accidents are single vehicle collisions (just the bike).
- The majority of those are "target fixation", when a rider thinks he is going to hit something, then runs into it (panic).
- The second most likely accident is a left hand turn by a car/truck, which can happen a number of ways.
- Motorcyclists are generally safer drivers (measured in number of car accidents).

I ride, and I don't like riding on the street much AT ALL. Drivers are inattentive to what they are doing. Some of the motorcyclists aren't much better. I actually saw a guy the other day on a bike with typical young hot dude gear (sandals, shorts, baseball cap on backwards) talking on his cell phone while riding on the street.

I do 95% of my riding on a race track where I feel comfortable. The street is crazy.

 

[smirnoff-ice]

I don't call them motorcycles. I call them (organ) Donor cycles.

funny, i thought this expression would just exist in german language (where i am using it too btw.) ...

still if money would allow it i'd make the biking-license and then buy me a motorcycle with lots of topspeed.

 

[Ninja108]

When it comes to battles of the roads. motorcycles always lose. I made Derek get rid of his. I don't need a dead boyfriend