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I think we found Baby Jane . . .

NotHardUp1

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Was watching a random YouTube video about some silly fence problem with a homeowner's association, and the news-on-your-side reporter turned out to be the only one truly guilty of a crime:


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Aside from the color, length, drape, and infant style, it's a great choice.

Do studios not ever HAVE wardrobe staff any longer? That's not a local station, but mine here are even worse.

We need a new thread for fashion crimes.
 
This is worse. At least your woman kept her tits covered.

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I'm sure there are plenty out there who are NOT newscasters, but that doesn't mean there aren't plenty of newscasters who qualify.
 
unloadonme said:
This is worse. At least your woman kept her tits covered.

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I'd dare say that print imitates pasties. I really think the ruffles in mine are the greatest sin. If you're not attending a high school prom, a gala event, or a quinceanera, it's just over the top for an adult woman to wear as normal attire in a broadcast medium.
 
NotHardUp1 said:
I'd dare say that print imitates pasties. I really think the ruffles in mine are the greatest sin. If you're not attending a high school prom, a gala event, or a quinceanera, it's just over the top for an adult woman to wear as normal attire in a broadcast medium.
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Except maybe for Kitty Carlisle on To Tell the Truth.
 
Yes, but the 70's were a different day in fashion totally.

And Carlisle's over-the-top wardrobe was almost kitsch, or costume, as she was a society representative in the panel. Bill Cullen was a big name from radio. Carlisle was a starlet from Hollywood who gravitated to NY opera society. The panel was sort of a constituent assembly of socially savvy panelists who could use their broad experiences to identify personality clues. I've been enjoying the heck out of the re-runs.

The trouble with these on-air reporters now is that their attire doesn't match their jobs on air. It just looks like they wear random whatever.
 
pat grimshaw said:
I read that Carlisle was a trouble-maker, a husband-stealer and a vamp.
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Husband-stealer? Her husband, Moss Hart, was gay. She knew and was fine with it.

She was revered and beloved in New York for decades, especially because of her long years of work as chairwoman of the New York State Council for the Arts
 
TV. I've never read anything scandalous about her. Her husband was Moss Hart, who was a phenomenally successful Broadway writer, etc., and both of them were socialites in the NYC arts circles, being very well connected Jewish figures in an entertainment industry led by wealthy, prominent Jewish New Yorkers. Moss Hart was rumored to be closeted gay but everything I read was vague. That said, very specific allegations are made today against figures like Tom Cruise, and that doesn't make them any more credible.

But, I've never found anything derogatory about Carlisle, and I'm sure her long service to the arts in NY would be one reason why. Of course, it's possible she had no scandals. Not everyone does.

As for a trouble-maker, that's a bit vague. From my read some decades after, her personality is a well-crafted one of an arts and society maven. Her mother and she aimed for her to marry well, and she did. I'm certain she wielded her power with a knowing hand and was rarely on her back foot. She sealed her husband's memoir at his death and prevented it from being published until after her death some four decades later. I'm not sure I'd define strong-willed as a trouble-maker.

One interview included that she asked her husband when she married him if he were gay, and he replied "absolutely not," but the rumors are plenty and he suffered from depression his entire marriage, which doesn't have to be from living closeted, but could have been.
 
Gracious me, you two sound intimate with the woman.

I maybe confusing her with that viper named Pamela Ostrer, who bled poor James Mason dry and left him a dry, empty shell forced to appear in too many black-and-white rubbish movies.
 
pat grimshaw said:
Gracious me, you two sound intimate with the woman.

I maybe confusing her with that viper named Pamela Ostrer, who bled poor James Mason dry and left him a dry, empty shell forced to appear in too many black-and-white rubbish movies.
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I've recently studied Carlisle, as To Tell The Truth has recently begun being re-run on a free channel. I do read up on biographies of interesting folks, and she is certainly that.

Peppermill is a New Yorker, and an arts aficianado, so I'm sure he's very familiar with the luminaries there. And she was a big name, not just a fleeting celeb.
 
I wouldn't pay too much heed of—
NotHardUp1 said:
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—publicity from the 1960s.

But as for Pamela Mason (AKA Pamela Kellino/Pamela Ostrer) she was happy to play the QUINTESSENTIAL BITCH in this well-crafted fiction movie.

 
Vannie said:
She should be home in a house dress doing the dishes and preparing my sandwiches.
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Honestly, one of the news readers here wears dresses that look like a soccer mom, and that is just as bad. There are lots of fashions appropriate to doing the news. The national figures do it every day. Not sure why the locals tend to go batshit crazy.

Even Margaret Brennan's eye-popping solid suits still look like business attire, and are fine. I just don't get how people cannot understand the difference between doing serious journalism and dressing to go whoring or bar-hopping, or to take cupcakes to the day care.
 
As much as I enjoy the cinema chat, I'd like to see more fashion fails, the topic.
 
Moss Hart was gay. And I know someone who knew Kitty Carlisle Hart; she occasionally referred to it, with perfect equanimity, in private conversation
 
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