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I thought about joining the military...

Seeing as how the US military is the only facet of our economy guaranteed to not loose funding, choosing it as a career isn't a bad choice if that's what you're looking for.
Wow, that's just offensive.
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But you didn't say that it was untrue... :lol:
 
fetaby said:
Seeing as how the US military is the only facet of our economy guaranteed to not loose funding, choosing it as a career isn't a bad choice if that's what you're looking for.

But you didn't say that it was untrue... :lol:
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I thought that was implied by my disgust.
 
asu1117 said:
I thought that was implied by my disgust.
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So what part exactly was untrue? The dead Iraq civilians or the profits for Halliburton? Or would you like to continue to think of military actions as some romanticized version of GI Joe?
 
fetaby said:
So what part exactly was untrue? The dead Iraq civilians or the profits for Halliburton? Or would you like to continue to think of military actions as some romanticized version of GI Joe?
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Ugh. Of course people die, in the military and in war zones. I'm not disputing that, but while you speak of a romanticized version of it all that video is about the opposite. Things aren't so black and white.
 
asu1117 said:
Ugh. Of course people die, in the military and in war zones. I'm not disputing that, but while you speak of a romanticized version of it all that video is about the opposite. Things aren't so black and white.
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You're are correct. That coin does have two sides, but it does take both to make the whole of it.

Ignoring one while only looking at the other is cutting off your nose to spite your face. And that is what is offensive.

In a world that isn't so black and white, one line replies don't quite convey the complexity of the circumstances, huh?
 
fetaby said:
You're are correct. That coin does have two sides, but it does take both to make the whole of it.

Ignoring one while only looking at the other is cutting off your nose to spite your face. And that is what is offensive.
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I think video's like that happen to be offensive and disrespectful to people (and their families) that have died fighting for their country. Regardless of whether or not you, I, or anyone else agrees with the wars our nation is in these men and women are risking their lives to protect our freedom. And it's important to note that the people that are dying in the military are not the ones who are making decisions about these wars, they're just doing their job. I just do not support making light of or belittling those jobs.
 
And it's important to note that the people that are dying in the military are not the ones who are making decisions about these wars, they're just doing their job. I just do not support making light of or belittling those jobs.
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But some how those peoples lives have been elevated to a higher standard than innocent people?
 
fetaby said:
But some how those peoples lives have been elevated to a higher standard than innocent people?
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That wasn't his argument. We all know that innocent people has died in the conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq. however, theres no need to belittle the effort the soldiers have done for their country and the politicians you voted for.
 
The fact that innocent people have died is the very reason why all of it needs belittling and scrutiny. And the grunt who's just doing his job gets no free pass.

Knowing innocent people have died... those words are mouthed so often they have apparently become meaningless.
 
I think it's a lot like any job, good things and bad things.

It's honorable work. For every hater (and there are a lot) there are hundreds of thousands who have been helped by the military.

The relationships you build there last a lifetime, and it's a career with benefits, pretty rare any more.

It's definitely your choice, so don't let those who don't understand it make fun of you or bring you down in any way.
 
fetaby said:
The fact that innocent people have died is the very reason why all of it needs belittling and scrutiny. And the grunt who's just doing his job gets no free pass.

Knowing innocent people have died... those words are mouthed so often they have apparently become meaningless.
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You're saying that the fact that innocent people have died makes it okay for someone like you to mock soldiers who has chosen other values of importance to him/her than you did yourself, and then died for it.

If you could decide whether to kill 10 innocent people to save 15, would you still just shake your head at where humanity has come to, or would you make a decision?
 
codeerror said:
You're saying that the fact that innocent people have died makes it okay for someone like you to mock soldiers who has chosen other values of importance to him/her than you did yourself, and then died for it.

If you could decide whether to kill 10 innocent people to save 15, would you still just shake your head at where humanity has come to, or would you make a decision?
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Exactly. It's so easy for those that are safe and secure, thanks to the military to then sit and judge. You have to wonder if they would be that condescending if they were in a concentration camp somewhere.
 
If you could decide whether to kill 10 innocent people to save 15, would you still just shake your head at where humanity has come to, or would you make a decision?
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I would choose not to kill. I can't control the decisions of others, their decisions are their own. But at the same time, I'm not going to turn a blind eye to it or pretend it's anything other than what it is.

But just to make it clear, I'm not mocking anyone. It's an ugly business killing folks. And I am grateful to the people who do so for my freedoms. I do lament the fact the need to kill exists, but it does.
 
Duigi-Luigi said:
Dad said "Son your fucking high!" and left the conversation at that....

Really? I mean, why can't I have a serious discussion about possibly joining the military. I'm sure there are benefits and disadvantages( ie Death being the biggest).

Anyone else even once thought about the joining the military?
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just say
lots born inta it world ova <( not lifestyle choice )>

many tongues no ca say cause many other borns no idea

anyway

try not get blow up inta tiny bits ans ya jaw hangin of donkeys tail
 
fetaby said:
But just to make it clear, I'm not mocking anyone. It's an ugly business killing folks. And I am grateful to the people who do so for my freedoms. I do lament the fact the need to kill exists, but it does.
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Thank you.
 
Innocent people are quite often put in harm's way by military commanders - quite coldly too - when it is essential for a military objective. That calls into question the objective. Is it honourable? How many lives are saved by what is risked?

Sometimes the answers to those two questions are "Yes" and "Countless."

Because of that, service in the armed forces can be an honourable profession. But it depends on which army, which commanders, which war. You don't have that much control over those things as a career soldier in a standing army; governments change, ethics slide, priorities can be cheapened by corruption or indifference.

People who fought in WWII at least knew what they were signing up for.
 
bankside said:
Innocent people are quite often put in harm's way by military commanders - quite coldly too - when it is essential for a military objective. That calls into question the objective. Is it honourable? How many lives are saved by what is risked?

Sometimes the answers to those two questions are "Yes" and "Countless."

Because of that, service in the armed forces can be an honourable profession. But it depends on which army, which commanders, which war. You don't have that much control over those things as a career soldier in a standing army; governments change, ethics slide, priorities can be cheapened by corruption or indifference.

People who fought in WWII at least knew what they were signing up for.
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not really

anyway

blow ya nose ans oops
 
thedolaon said:
hmm....i'm in the military Air Force to be exact and wow...some of the comments.

Okay, yes there is definitely the risk of getting deployed and then another risk within that is getting killed.

BUT Most of the time it depends on your job...for real. i think people forget there are other jobs than just security forces and combat comm etc.

Most jobs are like a 9-5 (most, definitely not all), there is pressure, but if you know your shit, you're good. Idk, i can't describe it you have to be in to understand. There are so many days where i'm like....this is too easy of a life lol But at the same time there are days where i just want to quit the military, but those are very rare.

I'm starting to get to that point where i want to stay in.....and to think i wanted to never go into the military in high school. You can still do your hobbies, save money, go out and see the world...idk....it's just, interesting.

The biggest of all is the people you meet. So many stories and coolest people. some good friends. I wouldn't trade any of that for the world.

Like i said, if you keep that situational awareness, you're smart, you're outgoing....you'll be good imo.
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People who aren't in the military or aren't very close with people who are in have a very narrow view of what it is. It isn't all shooting at people and getting blown up.

I'm in the Air Force too and the most asked question I get from non military people is "so... do you work on/ fly planes!?"




To the OP, is there a particular reason why your father just blew the idea off and didn't take it seriously?
 
Gatorguy said:
It's definitely your choice, so don't let those who don't understand it make fun of you or bring you down in any way.
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^This.

If you want solid advice, seek it from someone with military experience who you trust and who will be honest about it.

The potential for having to do life-threatening work or participate in a war with questionable motives aren't disadvantages - they're realities. If you can accept the potential for injury or death and the fact that you have to follow LAWFUL orders (not ALL orders) without question, then dig a little deeper into what a life in military service is like. If you can't accept that, then the military is not for you.

There are good and bad parts to every job, military or civilian. I think the military is a terrific career choice. Many of the jobs are typical Monday to Friday gigs, with weekends and holidays off. Many are bureaucrats with offices in civilian office buildings. The benefits are good and the pay is excellent (at least in Canada - I can't speak for others). International travel opportunities, unending education and valuable experiences, and you meet the most incredible people.

But, like Gatorguy said, don't let people who don't understand it turn you off. Anyone who has served can list the real cons you'll need to consider before joining, and their list won't include being a mindless slave to some ridiculous imperialist agenda or being sent to some distant battlefield to get killed.

Best of luck in your decision.

Go Navy! ;)
 
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