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I Thought I Knew - Book 1 and Book 2

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HR! we're looking forward for the next chapter...don't keep us waiting for so long.. :)
 
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Another wonderful week of comments. I realize it has been a little longer than normal between chapters, but that's just how it may be some weeks. My schedule is tighter than ever now and a simple holiday can throw it well off track.

I had a wonderful few days visiting with the guys pkus a friend of Jess' at a quiet getaway that a friend on mine let us use. We had a great time catching up and enjoying each other's company. Now I'm ready to go again.

Matt 18 -- "WOW! Very hot. Well written HR. More please." He's asking for more moments after it's posted. He's insatiable!

muzakified -- "Guys.. where is the love?" I think that is the very question Billy and Justin found they were asking themselves some days. But there is another way to look at it . . .

mexamor -- "Just because sex can be so powerful and animal doesn't meant that there is no love it just means that at that moment their love allowed them to share something different sexually in the relationship." And I think they may have felt the love, even at times when they didn't let it show.

kk-lonewolf-37
-- "Billy and Justin, Take it from me, there is nothing like make up sex. Just always remember to make up and try to not let your problems come between you. I know what it's like moving in with someone and making a go at life, it's never easy no matter the situation. Don't forget to lean on each other during the hard times, and ask each other for help if you need it, don't shut each other out." JUB's very own Dear Abby! Thanks for the advice. I know they're reading all this closely and they take the comments seriously.

SwingBoy -- "Justin and Billy: you have something worth keeping. Hold on to that!" They're trying, believe me.

caddymac -- "Well it is about time Justin!!! And don't you forget it." Still not mincing words, are you?

skygotnolabel -- "i LOVE the beginning of this book already! so i guess we're gonna read a lot more 'bout todd & jess right?" Look, Phil! Look, Todd! You're first fan.

harry113 -- "I hope this brings them back together" Ah, Harry. If life were only that simple.

keigan86 -- "You guys actually helped me confront my past of a similar situation that did not end as well as yours. Keep up the good work and I look forward to starting book II but I think I need a rest from it for a day or two haha." You're certainly not the first and I suspect not the last to say how this story has helped you. So glad it did. And you also aren't the first to admit to getting your rocks off reading it. Good for you! I hope you're rested now.

TheMan4 -- "heyyy, im back from Africa!!! i was staying there for 2 weeks for helping deaf kids, yeah , im deaf too. I finally catch up. this is my favorite story ever! i was shocked as hell!!!" You may be shocked again before it's all over.

And welcome to tajuliqbal, another new reader.

Well, it won't be much longer now guys. I'll be posting the next part as the evening moves on. Until then, stay happy. And stay hard.
 
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I Thought I Knew -- Book Two
The Further Adventures of Justin & Billy
Chapter 2 -- Part III

From Justin's viewpoint

When I woke up the next morning, I was laying on my side with Billy’s warm body snuggled up behind me. I could feel his chest rise and fall as he breathed. A little bit of his unshaven face against my shoulder. His hard cock pushing up against my ass. It felt great! He was so warm and soft and hard all at the same time. Kind of a cross between a baby and a man.

He was breathing slowly, making funny little sounds with his lips. I wriggled my butt to get his cock centered in my crack. I don’t know if he was helping, but it quickly found its place snuggled into my ass cheeks.

Lying there like that my mind began to fill with thoughts. Not of sex, but of ideas that I had somehow assembled in my mind during the night as I slept. I needed to talk to Billy. It was funny that I had awakened with these memories . . . these ideas. I needed to tell them to Billy while I still had them clear in my mind. I was afraid they might fade like dreams.

What I planned to tell Billy was that he wanted to live in the past and I wanted to live in the present. His way, with all its rules and limits, would lead us to stagnation and boredom. And ultimately doom us as a couple. My way would lead us to interesting changes, excitement and a lifetime of love together. And, of course, a hell of a lot of great sex.

I must have been working this all out as I slept, because the ideas and words were completely there. I just needed to wake Billy and tell him. I was sure I could make him understand that our relationship couldn't be anchored on some memory he had of how things were when we first . . .

I felt Billy's hand on my semi-hard cock. His fingers were cold against the warm, soft flesh of my cock. I pulled away slightly and he tightened his grip. His fingers warming slowly as he rhythmically squeezed and tugged at my expanding cock. Oh fuck, I loved it when he did this. My cock was swelling fast. Ohhhhh, shit!

"What do you think you’re doing?" he asked. "We've got business to take care of this morning." And with that he threw off the sheet covering us. He rolled onto his back. Grabbed his very hard cock in both hands. And squeezed it tight at its base. The top couple of inches swelled even more. Turning bright red in his tight grip. His cock looked monstrously large. Ready to attack.

Billy arched his hips, lifting them off the bed and thrusting his cock upward. As he did, he turned his head to look at me and said in a deep, guttural and very sexy voice, "You better start sucking my big, hard fucking cock before I shove it down your throat." And then he gave me the biggest grin. So pleased with himself. So pleased we were having sex again the way we used to.

And so was I.

I got up on my hands and knees. Moved his hands away and took his cock in one of mine. I licked his cock lips as his hips sank back towards the bed. I was savoring the sweet pre-cum. It tasted so good. I couldn't resist. I put my lips around the end of his cockhead and started to gently suck. Like I was nursing his cock. As I savored his slick, hard cockhead, I was rewarded with the sweetest flow of pre-jizz any boy could hope for. I let it swirl in my mouth like you might a fine wine. I could feel his ooze on my tongue. Against the backs of my teeth. Appreciating the subtle flavors and undertones and texture. His nectar. The best I could ask for.

As I drank it in, I couldn't help but notice the musky aroma of Billy's crotch. Still unwashed from our night of sex and play with Phil and Todd. Unwashed from the sex the surprise cum shower I had given him as he jerked himself off to XTube. Unwashed from the romp the two of us had had last night in our bed.

God only knew exactly what I smelled. Or whose sweat and cum had created these aromas. The scent drew me in and I sucked Billy's cock deeper into my mouth. I felt the hard flange of his cockhead as I sucked it through my lips. Soon his cock was filling my mouth. Billy’s cockhead was rubbing against the roof of my mouth. I loved sucking cock. Sucking hard on Billy's cock. His little thrusts in and out. In and out. A little deeper each time. He groaned. I sucked. The perfect blowjob.

All of a sudden Billy rocked his upper body forward and reached and round and slapped my ass. Hard. But playfully hard. "Look out, I'm coming to get you," he said and started to turn his body around on the bed. I knew immediately where he was heading. Straight for my waiting cock. He wanted to 69. Why not?

He started by licking my nuts, which were hanging in his face. He was just slobbering on them, lapping at them like a dog. Sucking on them. And he had one hand working on my cock, which didn't need a lot of work. It was already hard and aching. But I was still getting harder for Billy. And longer, too. I knew that was what Billy wanted. Me as hard and long as I could get. And he was gonna get it.

He took me into his mouth. It was wet. Warm. Comforting as he sucked me in. Almost immediately he started sucking harder. His cheeks pulled in tight. I don't know quite why, but he seemed to be urgently trying to suck my cum out of me. No foreplay. No play at all, except for the action he had been giving my nuts.

I pulled off his cock and told him, "Slow down. Enjoy this. My cock is your cock to suck however you want, but we're both gonna enjoy it a lot more if you take your time."

He didn't say anything. He just went back to sucking my cock. Only now it was slower. More sensual. His tongue swirling around my cockhead.

He resumed his own thrusts. His eight-inch cock into my mouth. I rewarded him by starting to probe his asshole with my fingers as I sucked him as best I knew how. I play a little with his hole and then stuck my fingers in my mouth alongside his hard cock.

It was a chance to tease him a little extra as my fingers toyed against his throbbing cock. My knuckles jostled his nuts. Then when my fingers were good and wet, I put them back to working on his asshole. It didn't take long for him to yield and let one finger in. Then two. So warm and tight. I loved Billy's ass. So hot!

I played my fingers in and out but was imagining the whole time it was my cock going in and out. My mind must have been short-circuiting with the images of my sucking and fucking. As my cock thrust into Billy’s mouth, my mind imagined it being his ass. The two overlaid. Mixed up. Billy sucking me off with his ass. God was I hard and fucking ready to blow. Mouth. Ass. Both. I didn’t care. I needed to cum . . . bad!

I knew Billy did too. His pre-jizz was washing around in my mouth. Tasting so good. His cock throbbing in my mouth. I felt his muscles tense. He pulled off my cock and said, "I'm gonna fucking blow my load. Don't swallow. Keep it for me." And then he went back to sucking my cock. But not as hard or smoothly as before. He was all tense and groaning and so into being about to blow his load in my mouth he was giving me terrible head.

And then he shot. A lot. I knew I'd never be able to hold all his cum in my mouth and thought about just swallowing the first couple of loads. Then I could save the rest. But I had my orders and so I stopped sucking and just held his thrusting cock between my lips. Tight between my lips. As he thrust, my tongue played around his cockhead.

As hard as I tried, I couldn't hold all Billy’s cum in my mouth. His cum started to seep from the corners of my mouth. Oozing out around his cock. I could feel his warm cum running down my chin. And neck. Then Billy started sucking my cock like a pro. Like I had taught him to suck. It didn't really matter though. He could have been scrapping my cock with his teeth like a Girl Scout.

The smell off his cum. The feel of it running down my face. The whole image of us sucking each other off. 69! I blew. About six shots. Hard and fast. And I was done. Not bad for all I'd been through the night before, I thought.

I could tell Billy was holding my load in his mouth. Or at least a lot of it. Before I choked on all the cum I had from his load, I decided to pull my cum-filled mouth off Billy's cock. He released mine as I turned to face him and lowered my mouth to his.

Our lips met as though in a gentle kiss. In reality, I wasn’t so much trying to kiss him as trying not to let any more of his cum leak out. When our lips were pressed together, I let my tongue part his lips I could soon taste my cum as it began to mingle with his. We both worked that double load of cum around in each other’s mouths. Lots and lots of it ran down Billy's face. Escaping our lips despite our best efforts. Finally Billy, lying there on his back, had to swallow or suffocate. I swallowed too and pulled away from our kiss.

I looked down at Billy. He was coated in our cum. From his nose down to his chest. And this big shit eating grin on his face. I started to laugh as I collapsed back down on to him. We held each other. Occasionally playing in our cum. Tasting it. Rubbing it. Dabbing it on each other's faces. Laughing. Holding each other. Just having fun. Being together. Being lovers. Being in love.

I decided my talk could wait a bit. I didn't want this to end.

To be continued . . .

Please keep your wonderful comments coming. They've been great. And if you haven't rated the story, please do. I promise the next part won't be so long in coming.
 
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my dick goes off again!!! other wonderful story! WOW! i just love this story, looking forward next chapter!!!!:D:sex:*|*(!)
 
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HR, thanks for another great chapter. And you accused me of being JUBs very own dear Abby so I won't disappoint you.

Justin, You shouldn't have put off what you wanted to say to Billy. It probably would have pissed him off right then to have to wait a few minutes, but love grows with conversation more then sex. Talk your problems out first. I know how hard it is for some guys to show their emotions, but with what you two are going through in this book. Your emotions, especially your love, should come first. After talking about how you feel and what you are thinking then the sex will be more enjoyable for both of you if there is nothing hidden between you.

Lone Wolf
 
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Okay. I've been reading this story for like a year now and it just gets better and better. My bf convinced me to join jub so I could put my comments down. And for me nothing is better than this story or project or whatever you call it. I feel like I've really gotten to know you guys. ;) And in a way I have. So keep up all the great work. I'm loving every minute of it. Can hardly wait for book 3 with Jess. He's my main man. Thanks hr.
 
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All I can say is.........wow. I have been reading the entire first story for about the last week and finished a few days ago, and was astonished at what I had read. This story has really opened my eyes to a lot of possibilites and has really got me inspired to write a good story, but I could never match to your breath taking story. I am very proud for all 4 of you guys for doing this for all of us on here, it truley is inspirational. You really should considering doing novels and getting them published, they would be best sellers guarenteed. Its very hard for me to pick a book or story i can really get into and boy you got me hooked all day everyday wanting to read and read. Thank you so so so much for doing this, and you are an out of this world author. And thank you Billy, Justin, and Jess for being so supportive.

By the way, the second book i have been reading, is probably the hottest thing I have read in my life, no joke. You have put all my favorite things: lots of kissing, rimming, cum sharing, dirty talk, and pure love making into the hottest erotica I have laid my eyes on. Please write on master.......... :gogirl::kiss:


Truely amazing
 
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I am now up to date on the story and book II as well. I hope my thoughs of where this is leading is wrong. Billy hang in there buddy. Justin sex with others is not an answer.
 
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Damn hot, as always! But Justin, I hope you had a change of heart. It's clear that you love Billy, but there's only so much quality an "open" relationship can retain. There are things that a couple should not share. I think.
But thank you for sharing. Good luck..|
 
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Wow. Had to stop at Chapter 9 because I couldn't take it anymore last night. Once I finish my work out and work I will continue on with this.. great story. Love it HR. Thanks for sharing.
 
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Alright. I know I'm double posting here, but I just finished Book #1.. and I'm still reeling from it. Amazingly written. I also think it is really cool that Jess, Billy, and Justin are members here, makes it a bit surreal. I was kind of shocked by Jess' realization, seeing how through the whole story I was most intrigued by him. Congrats on finding yourself and who you are Jess. Congrats Billy and Justin for finding each other. And congrats HR for totally blowing my mind. :D This story really helped me in a time of confusion, as I'm sure it helped others.
 
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It is interesting how we evolve in our relationships and our lives. I think the most important thing is to always be open to how to make things better and follow our paths. I think this is the greatest thing your story gives me is the example of the both of you being open and willing to follow your relationship to where it leads. You are not afraid to ask questions or ask yourselves why not. Thanks HR for such talent in writting.
 
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What an interesting mailbag this latest posting has brought in. Newbies and sluts together. I'd love to see you all in the same room together. Reading. Enjoying. ;) Each in his own way, of course.

mexamor -- "I think this is the greatest thing your story gives me is the example of the both of you being open and willing to follow your relationship to where it leads. You are not afraid to ask questions or ask yourselves why not." It is easy to see that you're not just skimming looking for the next sex part. I think you're going to find this final piece of Chapter Two quite interesting.

SwingBoy -- "Damn hot, as always! But Justin, I hope you had a change of heart. It's clear that you love Billy, but there's only so much quality an "open" relationship can retain. There are things that a couple should not share. I think.
But thank you for sharing."
I don't want to give anything away, but if you keep reading, you may have to rethink a thing or two, SwingBoy.

keigan86 -- "I hope my thoughs of where this is leading is wrong. Billy hang in there buddy. Justin sex with others is not an answer." Listen carefully to what Justin has to say in this next part of Chapter Two and then tell him what you think.

Matt18 -- "Very hot. Looks like trouble is still brewing" Right on both counts. Very astute, Matt.

kk-lonewolf-37 -- "Justin, You shouldn't have put off what you wanted to say to Billy. It probably would have pissed him off right then to have to wait a few minutes, but love grows with conversation more then sex. Talk your problems out first. I know how hard it is for some guys to show their emotions, but with what you two are going through in this book. Your emotions, especially your love, should come first. After talking about how you feel and what you are thinking then the sex will be more enjoyable for both of you if there is nothing hidden between you." Justin, are you listening to this?

TheMan4 -- "my dick goes off again!!! other wonderful story! WOW! i just love this story" I love you, man! Always so honest and to the point. If the story made you blow a load, why not say so? Thanks for the comment and thanks for cumming. It probably made Billy's day. A good cum usually does.

And now a word from the new guys reading ITIK:

jebbers -- "Wow. Had to stop at Chapter 9 because I couldn't take it anymore last night. Once I finish my work out and work I will continue on with this.. great story." "Alright. I know I'm double posting here, but I just finished Book #1.. and I'm still reeling from it. Amazingly written. I also think it is really cool that Jess, Billy, and Justin are members here, makes it a bit surreal. I was kind of shocked by Jess' realization, seeing how through the whole story I was most intrigued by him. Congrats on finding yourself and who you are Jess. Congrats Billy and Justin for finding each other. And congrats HR for totally blowing my mind." I am always so pleased that we are still adding new readers and seem to be hitting the mark with them. I'm sure the guys appreciate the comments. They are still regularly checking their PMs at JUB, so feel free to write to them as well as posting here. As for me, I'm not so sure it was only your mind that we blew. What is that sticky stuff all over your desk?

verysexii -- "All I can say is.........wow. I have been reading the entire first story for about the last week and finished a few days ago, and was astonished at what I had read. This story has really opened my eyes to a lot of possibilities and has really got me inspired to write a good story, but I could never match to your breath taking story. I am very proud for all 4 of you guys for doing this for all of us on here, it truley is inspirational." So glad we could be an inspiration. I've been reading your story and it's . . . how can I put this delicately . . . it's fucking hot! I am curious to know just what possibilities your eyes have been opened to. If it's too personal, share it in a PM. But then after reading your "Born With Curiosity," I can't imagine you'd be shy.

MyBFCallsMePaul -- "I've been reading this story for like a year now and it just gets better and better. My bf convinced me to join jub so I could put my comments down. And for me nothing is better than this story or project or whatever you call it. I feel like I've really gotten to know you guys. And in a way I have. So keep up all the great work. I'm loving every minute of it. Can hardly wait for book 3 with Jess. He's my main man." Thanks, Paul. I'm sure you'll be delighted by Book Three.

Thanks to those of you who rated the project this past week. We appreciate it that so many guys have given us a perfect score. If you haven't rated us yet, please do. If you don't know how and can't figure it out, just send me a PM and I'll walk you through it. It's easy.

The final part of Chapter Two will be headed your way shortly. Until then, stay happy. And stay hard.
 
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I Thought I Knew -- Book Two
The Further Adventures of Justin & Billy
Chapter 2 -- Part IV

From Justin's viewpoint

Finally Billy and I were cleaned up from our good morning suckfest. Eating breakfast cereal instead of each other’s cocks. As we sat across the little kitchen table from each other silently munching on Cheerios, I decided it was time to talk.

The things I planned to say needed to be said. And I needed to say them. I was frustrated. Unhappy with where our relationship was heading. Unhappy with the restrictions Billy was putting on us.

Things needed to change. We had gotten ourselves into a rut and needed to get out

"Billy," I said.

Before I could continue, he looked up into my eyes and said, "I know, you've got something to say. So say it." He didn't sound happy. Or sad. Or even annoyed. Maybe resigned. Yeah, he sounded resigned. Billy never really liked it when I thought we needed to talk.

But from the very beginning, he had always looked to me to lead the way. At least in matters involving sex. He might not like to admit it, but I literally taught him everything he knows about gay sex. I may not have been the first guy he ever got off with. That honor went to Jess. But that had just been kids messing around. Not really knowing what they were doing. Just getting their rocks off together. I had been Billy’s teacher. His mentor. I had given him his first handjob. Blowjob. Fuck. Everything. For everything Billy knew about gay sex, he could thank me.

I started right in with what I had to say, explaining to Billy how he wanted to live in the past. He wanted everything to be the way it had been. He wanted it all to be just like it had been in what he had decided was a perfect moment in time. A perfect place. Between two perfect people. Him and me.

And he wanted to set the rules to enforce that things would stay just as they had been that summer after his senior year.

I told Billy that I remembered that time, too, and I understood. I can’t deny it was a wonderful summer. The best of my life. When Billy virtually lived with me at my parents’ house. In my bed. In my ass. In my mouth. In my hands.

We had been newly in love. Almost everything we did was for the first time. And therefore special. Every word we said. Every look. Every touch. Every kiss. Everything was new. Every morning when we awoke in bed together. Every time we went anywhere together. Every time we did anything.

And the sex, of course, I admitted to Billy, was a series of non-stop perfect orgasms. Oh, my god, the cum that summer. I’ve never cum so much in my life. We lived in a world of cum

Every handjob. And blowjob. And fuck. We were like two cum machines. I had to admit it was a wonderful and memorable time. We lived for each other and sex. I bet we got off five and six times some days. I wish it could have lasted forever.

"But Billy, it isn't all new anymore. That doesn't mean that our life can't be wonderful. That we can't be in love. But it isn't going to be new. It can’t be the first time for everything now. We had that. What we have today, that's reality. If we do this right, our future could be even better than our past.

"But the rules . . . the limits . . . the limits you want to cling to now. The rules you want to keep on enforcing. That’s part of that past. It doesn’t make sense for us today.

“Do you remember what your limits were like when we first met? You thought you were straight and you were ready to beat the shit out off me. You thought I was a faggot. OK, you were right about that. But the limits you set for yourself . . . and for me . . . back then. They put a lot of restrictions on you. And on me. And even when we started to realize we were falling in love, you still had lots of restrictions. But as our relationship evolved, so did your rules. Remember how you let them change. Let them slip away. So that we could both have what we really wanted. Each other.

“And those changes didn't cause us to be less in love. But more in love.

"And your rules, your limits . . . they kept on changing as you learned to not only get blowjobs, but give them. Not only to fuck but be fucked. And . . . Well, you get the idea.

“Then we together we bent the rules for Jess that first time in the hot tub. Then with Ted. And then on and on . . . until we set the rules completely aside for Jess and both decided it was OK if we took turns fucking his hot ass that one night. Why? Because he asked us and we both agreed. We both wanted it.

“That broke all the rules and it didn’t bring the sky tumbling down. We still loved each other. And Jess, too. If anything, we were closer than ever for having fucked Jess. We’d shared a unique experience that I bet a lot of guys will never know.

"The point is, even though fucking Jess broke every rule we had, when we decided it was OK to do it anyway,it wasn't the end of us.

“We decided it together. We decided to enter a new phase. A new beginning. And it just kept getting better and better.

“If we can't change and grow and react to the realities around us. The reality that is us. If we can't do that, then our love will get tired and boring and stale. And soon we won't have time for each other. Won't excite each other anymore.

“People have to continue to grow and change and make themselves over or . . .”

Billy finally cut me off. “Justin, I know you want this is about It’s about Phil. Sex with Phil. You want to be able to fuck Phil. Or you want us to have Phil and Todd watch us fuck. Or something like that.

“I’m afraid that with you there is always going to be one more guy we’re gonna make an exception for. One more guy to fuck. To watch us fuck. The bottom line is that what you’re talking about isn’t as much about you and me as it is about having sex with other guys. Or for other guys. So they can get off watching us. And turn us on by being watched.

“Fuck, yes, I think that would be hot as fucking hell to have Phil and Todd watch us fuck. But what I want . . .”

It was my turn to interrupt. “Let me tell you what I want first.” I gave Billy a stern look like I seldom gave anyone. “Please,” I said, all but ordering his agreement.

We both sat in silence for a moment, until Billy nodded for me to go ahead. Still looking mostly resigned to this talk.

“What I want. No, all I want is for each of us to tell the other what it is they want from the other one. What is missing. What can be better. What we need more of. That kind of thing.

“We don’t need to do it right now. Not today. We each need to take some time to think about what it is that is really important to us in this relationship.

“After we tell each other what it is we really want from the other, then we need to work together to figure out how to make that happen. . . .”

Billy stood up, agitated by something. I thought it was more something going through his mind than something I said. He raised his hand as though to tell me to stop talking.

“What, Billy?”

“I don't need to think about it. I don't want you to have sex with anyone else,” Billy said. His voice completely flat in tone.

I forged on. “This isn't about what we don't want. But what we do want. Both of us. Each of us. We may not be able to agree on everything, but there is a lot we can agree on. I know you and you know me well enough that you know that’s true. After we figure out what we both want, then we've just got to find a way to do it.”

“Don't tell me yes or no right now. Just say you'll think about it.”

Billy sat down. In a few moments he started eating his cereal again without saying a word. I didn't know if he planned to say anything. Finally, I asked, “OK?”

He looked up and said, “OK,” as though he didn't realize he needed to give me an answer.

He seemed a little quiet through most of the day. But by lunch things seemed mostly normal. Nothing serious. And then the best sign of all. Late in the afternoon, I asked him, “So what do you want to eat for dinner?”

He gave me his most wicked grin and said, “You, fucker. I wanna eat you!” And before I knew what was happening, we were into a rerun of the night before with enough variations to keep it more than interesting. I came twice. Billy came three times.

I had to assume that was a good sign. It sure as hell was a good night.

To be continued . . .

Thanks to all of you for reading this project. We always appreciate your comments, so please post them now. And all three guys love getting PMs from you, so don't be shy about writing them directly as well. They are busy, so may not get back to you immediately. But they try hard to answer all their mail. Thanks again.

Until next time, stay happy. And stay hard!
 
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HR, I can see why this chapter would give you trouble. I don't think I could have written it. But you did an excellent job none the less.

Justin, Please don't take this the wrong way but, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING!? And yeah, I did scream that at the computer while reading. I know there are couples out there that have open relationships and some how make them work. I know I could never do that. Your love for your partner should come before your sexual desires. Especially if those desires are for someone other then your partner. Take it from a married bisexual who has not had sex with a guy in over 17 years and have never cheated on my wife with anyone. It is possible to put your love for your partner first and foremost. That is the important thing. I am sorry if I offended you, but I wanted to be honest.

Lone Wolf
 
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Justin, Please don't take this the wrong way but, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING!? And yeah, I did scream that at the computer while reading. I know there are couples out there that have open relationships and some how make them work. I know I could never do that. Your love for your partner should come before your sexual desires. Especially if those desires are for someone other then your partner. . . . It is possible to put your love for your partner first and foremost. That is the important thing. I am sorry if I offended you, but I wanted to be honest.

i havex riten in a long time but i canx let this go.
ur just listening 2 billy's side. i x say i wanted 2 have sex w/ any1 else. sure that night with p&t turned me on, but billy and me had problems long before that. we needed 2 do somthing other than go on like the way things were. read what hr rote. what i said was “If we can't change and grow and react to the realities around us. The reality that is us. If we can't do that, then our love will get tired and boring and stale. And soon we won't have time for each other. Won't excite each other anymore.
“People have to continue to grow and change and make themselves over or . . .”

i believed then and now. i just trying to get us 2 agree on what we cud and cudx change. not who i cud have sex w/. u better read what i said again and dox just take billys side.
 
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First let me say HR great as usual. Now at first I was angered at Justin wanting to have a talk with Billy and thinking he wanted to put his cock in every Tom, Dick and Hairy. I do not think that is what Justin is saying at all. I think he wants Billy to realize that on certain occasions like when they were at P & T as long as both of them agree its ok then go for it and do what you want. In other words Justin would have been fine with T fucking Billy and that Billy should have been fine with Justin fucking P. I do not think he wants an open relationship to where he can go fuck whoever he wants. He wants to be able to be in situations with his partner and be able to throw caution to the wind so to speak.

To you Justin I must apologize for miss reading into your thoughts before I got to hear them out.

To you Billy I hope my explination has helped you if you guys have not already worked through this issue.
 
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i havex riten in a long time but i canx let this go.
ur just listening 2 billy's side. i x say i wanted 2 have sex w/ any1 else. sure that night with p&t turned me on, but billy and me had problems long before that. we needed 2 do somthing other than go on like the way things were. read what hr rote. what i said was “If we can't change and grow and react to the realities around us. The reality that is us. If we can't do that, then our love will get tired and boring and stale. And soon we won't have time for each other. Won't excite each other anymore.
“People have to continue to grow and change and make themselves over or . . .”

i believed then and now. i just trying to get us 2 agree on what we cud and cudx change. not who i cud have sex w/. u better read what i said again and dox just take billys side.

Justin,

I am sorry I offened you. I was not taking Billy's side. Maybe I could have found a better way to say what I wanted to, but I feel there is NO PLACE in a relationship for sex with other people at any time. I don't care if they are good friends or not, to me it is wrong to allow another person or people into your relationship. If two people truly love each other, that love can make it through anything and doesn't get old or boring or stale. I have been with my wife for over 17 years and neither of us have had to bring someone else into our relationship to keep it alive. It grows every day, even with the bad or hard times, they just make it stronger. We don't need to add someone to it for that to happen, even if it's just a onetime thing. There is nothing like the bond that two people share when they are in love with each other. And 'adding' someone to that bond, in my opinion, doesn't make the bond grow, it takes away from it.

You know how all this ends, we don't. You know the whole story, I don't. I can only comment on what HR has posted so far. Again I am sorry I offended you. And I wasn't taking Billy's side. And for you I went back and reread the chapter. I hope this "sounds" better.

Lone Wolf
 
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Well done HR - this ongoing saga is truly worthy of its readership!
 
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It's really interesting hearing what you guys think about all of this. It all seems kind of different looking back at it now. :confused: I think HR did a good job so far of saying what we were thinking and doing and saying about this to each other. J and me that is.

We're not going to agree with what everybody says, :grrr: but reading back over some of this stuff I'm not always sure I even agree with myself all the time, if that makes any sense.

But I hope a lot more guys will say what they think because I like that part of being on this site telling our story. It's cool that so many guys have different opinions.

I'm sorry that while we were having a hard time getting along we didn't always have thebest sex. :sex: So some of you guys are probably pissed that there wasn't enough sex to get your rocks off *|* in some parts of this. But then some of you guys have been popping a load before the chapter really gets going. Fuck yeah!

You and I know HR well enough that he'll always do his best to find the juicy -- that means cum -- parts and make the most of them. So enjoy the good parts and keep on *|**|*

So tell me wat you think. I can take it. And then we can all jerk off *|* together.
 
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