I Thought I Knew - Book 1 and Book 2

[ginjoint]

Hey guys. I've started reading this at the same month just last year and I hope this isn't too late for a thank you for sharing your story with us. It's been great reading the story you guys share and The Gay Stories section wouldn't be the same without ITIK. HR, Billy, Justin, and Jess, nothing beats a real story.

Thanks again guys!

 

[hardreader]

I know I've been gone a lot longer than planned. But now I'm back and the long-promised Epilogue has been completed. All the major players have signed off on it.

Before I post it, let me go through the mailbag ritual. But in this final mailbag, I won't be commenting. I think your words say it all:

keigan86 -- "OMG Justin what a fuck machine you have become haha !!!!!!! More importantly I think Justin and Billy you guys have grown to one of the highest level of a relationship and have found true love. I am so proud of you both and your love that you have for one another. Dont let your lust for Tom come between your love for one another though".

DonQuixote -- "Could Billy & Justin . . . have finally come to the discovery of what Love, and being together with your Soul Mate really means? That the intense Oneness is more magically fulfilling than all of the hot gang banging?!! It was truly a fitting ending for your saga of self-exploration and Sexual Surrealism. Thank you, guys, one last time for your willingness to share all of this intensly intimate interaction, and the glimpses of the workings of your inner minds."

TimWhite07 -- "Ok now im all caught up. it is 4:30 in the morning here. I had to keep going. Most other stories i have read i can stop and start again. But not this one. I just had to keep reading until i was done. Billy, Jess, Justin....i wanted to again say that you for sharing your story. . . . Oh and i want to thank you guys for helping me jerk a few dozens loads off while i have been reading this that last couple of days."

ZachBurry -- "ok, so, omfg, wow. I love the story us guys. So hot and sexy. . . . billy, justin, and jess. wow your story made me hot and sweaty the entire time. I didnt get off as many time as my man, Tim, but i got off a fare share. . . . In all seriousness tho. I love u guys, even tho i dont know u, i feel like i do. just from reading this i feel like i have been your friends for years."

caddymac -- "I hate to see this story end but I also realize your fellas have lives to live apart from this story and need to more on. . . . I trust things will keep working out and that you all will work through your lives as things happen. Believe in each other and trust each other. You will a much better life that way."

glorff -- "Everyone involved, IT HAS BEEN A GREAT RIDE! Thanks for sharing everything and I hope that there are great further adventures, even if we never get to hear about them."

RonR18 -- "Thanks for the great story! HR dude, you were born to be a porn writer!"

skittles -- "I don't know how many times I came to this story (books one and two), and it would be a travesty to end the project without the third book. I would like to thank the many men involved with ITIK, including, but not limited to: HR, Jess, Justin, Billy, Tom, Joe, Todd, and Phil. Thank you all for contributing your efforts to this massive undertaking. We have to remember that this isn't a story, per se, but the lives of real people. Thanks again."

LoganLA-2007 -- "OK guys, I finished reading the story and i have go to say WOW This is great. You guys are great for sharing. and HR for telling it so well. Helping me get hard and stay that way. IM new to the whole gay relationship thing. but still wow. what else can i say but wow"

ginjoint -- "Hey guys. I've started reading this at the same month just last year and I hope this isn't too late for a thank you for sharing your story with us. It's been great reading the story you guys share and The Gay Stories section wouldn't be the same without ITIK. HR, Billy, Justin, and Jess, nothing beats a real story. Thanks again guys!"

I'll just add my thanks and finish up formatting The Epilogue. Then I can post it.

Until then, stay happy. And stay hard!

 

[hardreader]

The Epilogue​

It’s been about a year since the final events of “The Further Adventures of Justin & Billy.” As I promised, here’s a look at what has happened to them and their friends in the time that has passed.

Justin and Billy are still together. Completely committed to each other. They are living this summer primarily in NYC, but maintain their apartment in the town where they go to school.

Justin says that since they met Tom and hooked him up with Joe (Justin’s professor and mentor) life has been pretty smooth for all of them.

Here’s a bit of a conversation with Billy and Justin from a couple of months ago. I’ve edited it and left out most of my questions:

Justin: I know everyone is going to want to know if we still mess around with Tom like we did last year. I just know that’s what they’re asking you. Right?

I bet there are a lot of readers who hope I’ll tell them how much I like to get my dick deep in both Tom and Billy. How we cum all over each other every night. About our circle jerks and stuff like that.

Well, they need to know that Billy and I have decided that we’re done with sharing every intimate detail of our lives with guys we don’t even know. I’m not sorry we did it, but we’ve got to move on. I’ve gone back and read some of the project again. Holy mother of god, H.R. I can’t believe we let you write some of that stuff about us. And not just the sex.

I hope you guys understand that if me and Billy were ever going to make it together, we had to end H.R.’s project sometime. So we did. And I think the timing was right in a lot of ways. You got to see the pressures of being boyfriends and dealing with all the things that try to pull you apart.

Ending the project, at least for us . . . well, for me . . . had nothing to do with you readers out there. Some of you turned out to be really nice guys. I know a lot of you really do care about us.

That’s why I’m willing to tell you how we’re doing. I can tell you that since the end of the second book, Billy and I have moved into the apartment that Joe rents for us. It’s so much nicer. He picked the apartment because it was near his place in (our city) and so convenient for me to run back and forth between his place and ours. He used his place as both a home and an office, so I was there a lot.

Anyway, the apartment is really nice and the combination of my studies and the job with Joe is working out great. Because of the economy, we’re not traveling as much as he thought we would, but we still have been to most of the better cities where he has galleries. The “rich cities.”

Billy: I don’t mind not traveling like he (Joe) thought we would. I don’t think I’d have the time to travel all that much anyway.

The best part about how things worked out for me a Justin was that it didn’t take too long after that first weekend at the old country house for Joe to rent the apartment next to ours for Tom. It was kind of awkward for Tom at home. His parents weren’t too cool with him seeing Joe. So Joe rented the small apartment next to ours for him to stay in when he needed to.

Joe paid to have the two apartments changed so now they connect with a door through to our kinda living room area. So now Tom’s apartment is like an annex to ours with its own entry and bath and stuff. You can get to his room directly from our place, so it’s like we’re roommates. Or suitemates. Or whatever.

So I guess you could say that Tom is now sort of a roommate with benefits. He and Joe aren’t exclusive. They never were. But they’re both like each other’s No. 1. I mean like they’re together all the time, so it isn’t like J and me and Tom are any kind of threesome or whatever. But . . . And that’s enough on that for now. OK. It does happen. Are you happy? Yeah. Sometimes we fuck around like in the old days, but what we do is for us to know.

Justin: Oh, yeah. Joe’s not here anymore. His year with the school is up and so he’s back in New York. I do about two long weekends working with him each month during school. For the first time this summer, we’re working for him . . . with him fulltime in the City. He got us a place there. A sublet from an artist he represents. And Tom is staying with Joe at Joe’s place.

Joe knows so many people. He got Tom and Billy jobs. No problem.

Billy: Good jobs.

And tell them about your sales.

Justin: I did get a small commission from the client I met at the country house that first weekend. It was really cool to do and it would probably make an incredible story for H.R. to tell about me and Billy and the model. A Bulgarian guy from Sofia. So hot and hung and just a wild crazy guy. But I don’t think we’re going to be telling that story any time soon.

Billy: Tom can tell it for us. Cuz it was so fucking wild! . . . Well, he could. He was there and in the end he was the one who really got . . .

Justin: Anyway, it has led to a couple other sales and commissions. It’s really nice money and nice work but I was a little afraid I was going to end up just painting erotic male figures. But this spring I sold three of my other paintings. They’re more . . . well if you know who Jules Olitski is, I get compared to him sometimes.

Billy: I prefer the sex stuff.

So what else? We talked about Tom. Joe’s divorced now. We have lots of friends at school and more and more in the city. I like it cuz it’s not all just kids from school. Some, like Phil and Todd, we see a lot. But there are some older guys from here that Tom has introduced us to. Surprise, surprise that Tom would know older guys.

And I’m back on schedule to graduate next year. I’m not sure what I’m doing while J finishes up. He’ll have another year to do here. But we’ll figure that shit out. Joe always has a way to make these things work out.

I wanna talk about one thing that has kinda bothered me. I know there were some guys who wrote comments who didn’t think Billy and I should fuck around outside our relationship. I gotta say I don’t think some of those guys fucking get it.

It would be wrong for us to fuck around outside our relationship. We both know that. We always knew that. That’s what this whole thing was about. When we did fuck around outside our relationship, like with Joe, or with Todd, or whatever, it was fucked. Doomed to be fucked and us with it.

So we don’t do that. I hope you all get that!

We love each other and we only do stuff within our relationship that’s right for us. Right for US! Not for YOU! So don’t judge us!

Well, that’s when that interview ended. But I was talking with Billy again in recent weeks. He asked me if guys still write PMs to me. I told him I had gotten an email that day from someone reading this project on Nifty. I read this to him:

Hi,

I'm reading your story "I Thought I Knew" and absolutely loving it. It's addicting. Usually I grow tired of stories on Nifty fairly fast but that hasn't been the case with this one. I also rarely get off on them (I enjoy reading them and they turn me on, but it usually takes more to give me an orgasm), but today I got off while reading yours. I'm so addicted that I spent most of my day reading it and I only have one chapter left. I would have read more right away if it weren't the last chapter until your next one. I hate waiting.

Thankfully it seems like you update it pretty often. I'm not sure how much longer I could wait. I'll probably finish the last chapter tonight.

Anyway, keep up the great work.​

Billy: I love that guy. He’s like who we did this for. And if more guys felt that way . . .

Billy’s voice just trailed off at that point and he was silent. Then he continued:

Billy: I know a lot of guys really care about us. And I want them to know that we’re OK and part of the reason I think we’re so strong is cuz we told everybody every fucking thing we did. I mean that wasn’t easy

It’s funny how it changed our lives. I know you never mentioned it in what you wrote, H.R., but you know that there were days we didn’t do things we might have done because if we had . . . If we had, what would we have told you? What would you have written in the project? That we fucked everything up?

It was good for us. All of it. I’m proud to say we did it and I’d do it again. I’m not sure the sex was always as hot as what you wrote, but it was damn good. And I hope guys out there learn something about growing up and being friends and jerking off and cumming together reading “I Thought I Knew” for a long, long time.

And, Jess, you better make sure you’re ready for your next part. It doesn’t get any easier.

So that’s it. If you have any specific questions you’d like me to address, let me know. I’ll do my best.

Please leave a parting comment for the guys. And if by any chance you haven't rated this thread yet, you have one more chance. So do it now.

Thanks so much for sticking with this project to the end.

Yours truly,

H.R.

 

[keigan86]

Nice finish Billy and Justin. I am glad you guys shared your story with us and survived doing it. Sounds like things are working out better and better for you guys and for that I am very happy. Give Tom and Joe a big hug for me for their parts in your lives.

I wish you guys the best of luck in all your future especially graduation and of course your relationship.

HR your part as well is amazing the talent you have for writing! I can't wait to see the spice you put into telling us about Jess's adventures.


AGAIN THANKS AND GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!!!!!!

PS Billy your and J's adventures always get me off!!!! I said that just for you B!!!


Love your friend,

Mike

 

[DonQuixote]

HR, Justin, and Billy,
Thank you for being kind enough to bring us up to date with your lives, post ITIK.

I know there are a lot of us out here who have been pulling for you. When we expressed concerns about your party sex, and I hope I didn't too frequently or forcefully, I was trying to be as impartial/non-judgmental as possible, we did it based on our life experiences and wanting to somehow save you the pain we lived through in our lives.

I could feel a lot of guys wishing they could Vulcan Mind-Meld with you - I hope you are enough of a Trekkie to understand that statement - BOTH to share the raw, unfiltered emotions of their life experiences with you, again to save you some of the pain they've lived through, AND to experience first hand, if you will, YOUR fantastic voyage of growth.

Justin and Billy, I've PM'd you a couple three times over the course of reading your life story, and shared some of mine. I don't know if you can understand my situation any more now, a year later (well, several months, anyway). I tried not to judge you, I ask the same of you towards me.

Love is a wonderful, painful thing. As the painter on PBS all those years ago, about 19 now, I'd guess - my son is 23 and just graduated with is MA -- he was four when we'd set up the little tikes easel and watch The Magic of Painting --
Anyway, every week he would remind us that you had to have light to show dark, dark to show light. Love is a lot like that. You can't truly KNOW love, unless you've known the pain that can come from love.

While I am certainly curious, and your life stories have certainly piqued my curiousity, I am where I need and want to be, just as you are where you need and want to be.

I wish you all the best. Take what life has to offer while you can. Sock as much money away as you can -- being financially independent is a wonderful place to be -- I wish I was.

Justin -- I googled Jules - What I saw is a bit too impressionistic for me - at least the earlier works. Some of the more recent are at least enough of a recognizable subject for me to relate to. And the poster he did for the Met was great. The studies in a single, or seemingly single, color, on the other hand, left me having to agree with Billy - and I haven't even seen the nudes. LOL

Sorry. I appreciate a fair amount of abstract art. Some of what I saw was a bit too abstract.

But I digress. I really wanted to wish you both all of the best in your lives together. Take care of each other. When you play, I know you'll play responsibly, because you both want to be around this mortal coil a good, long while. The world truly is your oyster - Joe has given you some opening opportunities not many get.

Billy, I don't know what your field of study is. If you told us once, a long time ago, this old brain has forgotten what it was. Is a Master's a possibility for you?

Just musings of a middle aged man whose forever young at heart.

Take care of yourselves and each other. LOVE each other with all your hearts.
Be happy. And, Thank you, once again, for baring your souls and lives for us the way you did. It was so much more than a ride down the fast fuck aisle.

And it was certainly that, too, on occasion!
Skol!

 

[vamp]

I'm really glad that you two are happy together and are sucessful. I really do thank you two a lot for sharing this story, I know that it must have been hard to do. I wouldn't have the guts to do it. I just want to apologize for not commenting on the last chapter, I haven't been on JUB as often as I used to. Thank you for it all, I really enjoyed reading it.

 

[TimWhite07]

~From Tim~

Well im glad to see that the endings is finally up.

Im really glad for you guys. That you are doing so well. I know how hard it is to tell every bit of your life to someone then have have it put on the internet. Im writing mine. There are things that i wish i didnt tell everyone, but if i didnt then they wouldnt understand what i went through with my BF, and my friends. It is not easy putting your life on the line for ppl to judge you.

I know that someday i will have to end the story. Some day it will run it course. i will eventually catch up to where i am now. I have met some really great ppl through my writing and i really dont wana stop talking to them when im done.

Anyway back your story. Im glad that things are going great for you guys. I hope that you guys telling and allowing HR to write this changed your lives for the better. Telling something like this can really bring out emotions that you had forgotten. Happy and sad. But this stuff was in the past and can not be changed, but you can learn form it and not make the same mistake again. It can even make you stronger.

With me i had a complete change. I was never the person to speak out. I took what ppl thro at me. I let ppl walk all over me. Now i dont. Just because im writing. Or it might be that i have finally gone crazy. Both are possible. hehe.

I hope that some day you both decide that you are rdy to Tie the knot. It is a hard thing to think about when you are a gay couple, but let me tell you. When my BF asked me to marry him, i didnt think it was possible but i fell more in love with him. It is a werid thing. Then it helped alot that we have a baby on the way. hehe.


~From Zach~

Billy, Justin, HR:

I love you guys. I dont think there is another story on any site that i check ever day to see it there is a new comment or an update. This is a great love story. There comes a time in a story that i get attached to, that i almost feel guilty for reading the sex scenes. Yeah i love LOVE to get off to the image of guys making love. Even tho i dont know what you look like. so i have to make that up in my head to. And you guys ARE HAWT in my head. lol

Yeah and like Tim said. I glad that things are good for you guys, and hope that things continue to work in your advantage.

Billy, Justin, i want to let you know that i know where you are coming from with not really wanting to share every detail of your lives. To be honest. I dont like it to much. I know that it is helping Tim, but i never that my life would be an open book. I started telling tim thing that i wanted left out. Im a very outspoken person but a private life sometimes needs to stay private.

~From Kevin~

Srry i forgot to make a profile and post a comment. I love the story and want to say that you guys are great. Hope that everything goes great in your lives.

~From Logan~

What more can say that the other guys havent said alrdy. You guys are great and still keep me hard when i think bout your story. hehe.

 

[TimWhite07]

Hello everyone, and fellow ITIK addicts. how is it going? How are our favorite guys doing?

 

[BillyCanCum]

It is so fucking cool that our story has reached 90000 hits. I know thats not like the most ever but it more than any story hardly ever gets. I never thought wed be tellling out story to so many guys. I gotta ask the obvious question. Are there still guys out there getting their rocks off with us. J and I love to hear about that kinda shit so make a comment r write to us. we're not real good at answering by i try. thanks to everybody who read about us. im pretty sure Jess and hr are working on the next book now.

 

[TimWhite07]

Of course there are still guys out that are getting rock hard to you guys. I have read and re-read the story a couple times and i get off alot to it. still not many stories can do that for me...lol.

Both my BF and I hope that you guys are doing great and wish u the best of luck. There is nothing better then to find that one person that you are meant to with the rest of your life. Maybe one day you will tie the knot?

I cant wait to see the next part, the first part of jess story.

 

[caddymac]

Sorry guys but I have been gone and didn't have my access info with me. I am just now getting back to read what has been posted. Billy and Justin, I can understand why you have decided to stop the project. But also know that you have a lot of men here who because of what you allowed HR to write CARE a lot for you and the rest. Yes, you all have been a part of OUR lives and you have made a difference. You may feel like it was all the sexy but that is only a part of you and reading what HR wrote about you created imagines differently for all of us. We may not have your personalities right but so what. Thank you for being a part of MY life and allowing me the chance to know you a little bit. Thank you for sharing these chapters of your lives.

 

[DonQuixote]

Billy,
Thanks for stopping by and saying hi. We've missed you guys dropping in now and again. We're anxiously awaiting HR's return from respite and getting a head start on Jess' story. I know he has been facing the same crazy world the rest of us have been.

How's the travelling for the art going? You had mentioned that you've done some, but not quite as much as you were going to? Don't forget to swing by the Windy City and give your ghost writer what he deserves when you're in town. I'm pretty sure I have an idea of what he would like!

 

[tommy296]

HR, Billy, Justin and Jess, Thanks for an amazing story! It's been great reading about you guys (admittedly, I'm grateful that I could read this with only one hand). Wishing you all the best, and looking forward to Jess' story!

 

[hardreader]

I thought I should update you guys on what is happening with Book III: Not too much right now. I'm afraid I have been overwhelmed by the demands of my job and it has been too easy to push Jess' story to the back burner. Plus Jess has had his fair share of distractions as well.

The project is not forgotten, but at the moment I can't give you an ETA.

I want to thank all of "I Thought I Knew"'s regular fans for the kind comments posted since The Epilogue. I'd also like to acknowledge some newcummers to our project:

tommy296 -- "Thanks for an amazing story! It's been great reading about you guys (admittedly, I'm grateful that I could read this with only one hand). Wishing you all the best, and looking forward to Jess' story!" One-handed reading is a tradition at ITIK. Some have even raised it to an art form.

PatRod -- i've only just found this story a couple weeks ago, and since then i've been jackin' off like it's my job. i have certain chapters that have burned in my brain from reading them over and over. and right now i'm at book 2 chapter 15 I've talked to Pat in a few PMs and I can report that his jacking off really did becum his job as he read our project. I'd place him in the Top 10 Cummers I've heard from.

MikeyLove -- I'll finish reading the story asap. Sorry for not being up on it like I used to do. Thanks for a wonderful story. Have you thought about publishing it in a hard-copy book? I have but first I really do want to get Jess' book written.

Thanks for your patience. I'll let you know as soon as I have anything to report.

 

[TimWhite07]

Its Ok HR, we still love you. and we still love billy, and jess and justin. i can wait as long as it takes.

 

[ukbrit]

I am sure we all will be waiting with anticipation for book 3, I know I will.
Have to admit I am suffering from Jess withdrawal he is by far my favorite guy ( Billy, Justin sorry guys ) but I really missed him in book 2, hardly a mention not even a visit, (had to reread book 1 to remind me and of course I did plenty of stroking ) oh well can't have everything I guess.
I am sure book 3 will be here asap.
Thanks to all you guys,( keep it hard Jess, xx )

 

[DonQuixote]

HR,
Thanks for the update. I can relate - with the downturn in the economy, we're all working twice as hard trying to squeeze every economy out of our companies.

Take care. Jess, too.

 

[caddymac]

Yeah, Thank you for the update. I know how work can take over. At times there are so many demands and not enough time. Now it seems we have to do the job of more than one person.

Take care guys!!!

 

[Bodhi1]

I have been reading so much since I joined a few weeks ago that "I thought I knew" everything I had read. But somehow I had NOT read your incredible tale!

I am blown away by the honesty, the baring of your lives, sharing your private emotions with thousands of folks you have never met ... You have taught us a lot - as you know from so many replies you have received to that effect. Thank you for your immense gift to us ... Of course HR is such a wonderful writer! In many of the more sensual parts I had my right hand on the mouse and my dominant left hand Many times!!!

I identify so much with your story. I met my Beloved in 1967 in Montréal - we were both into Spiritual discovery, as well as being horny young men. Later we landed up in India where we were both initiated as Swamis in a Tantric Order. While we loved & respected each other, we allowed ourselves to follow our training as sexual healers when required. We were legally married in 2003 when it was possible in Ontario.

He died of Cancer 4 years ago, after 37 amazing loving years together. I now carry on for the both of us ... combining the spiritual with the /sensual/sexual, as Nature does ...

Namasté - I salute you all

 

[ukbrit]

Hey Hardreader, can you give us an update to when book 3 will be starting please.