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I thought things had gone quiet onthe gun front

...That leaves 490,645 [Privately owned?] semi-automatic weapons that were not used to kill someone [STRIKE]today.[/STRIKE] somewhat recently.*
*Actually your numbers include less recent figures, and none of them were from today, anyway. The Vegas shootings were last night, right?
Vegas was included in the figures- 59 dead, 560 injured / 10+ semi-automatic weapons (Vegas)? At least that's the latest numbers... the dead is likely to increase as infection and multi-organ failure still lie ahead.

We've had 11,000 gun deaths in the US so far this year. Is that enough? Or do we need more guns? Or do they just need to make better use of the ones they have?
 
Vegas was included in the figures- 59 dead, 560 injured / 10+ semi-automatic weapons (Vegas)? At least that's the latest numbers... the dead is likely to increase as infection and multi-organ failure still lie ahead.

We've had 11,000 gun deaths in the US so far this year. Is that enough? Or do we need more guns? Or do they just need to make better use of the ones they have?


I know the 10 weapons from the Vegas shootings were included in your figures. Without them you would have had only 9 weapons on your list.
 
He probably meant semi-automatic.

Unless the Washington Post is wrong, I meant automatic:

Automatic firearms have been heavily restricted in the United States since 1986, when Congress passed the Firearm Owners’ Protection Act.

Under the law, such weapons made before 1986 can be legally owned following a stringent background check and registration of the gun. Last year, ATF sent a letter to the National Firearms Act Trade and Collectors Association saying that 490,664 automatic weapons were registered in a government database.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...0e2e1d41e38_story.html?utm_term=.e74c36885f16
 
. . . . .

But even with the argument on semi-automatic weapons... How many weapons and murders does it take to ponder the need for a change? Fourteen adults/4 semi-automatic guns (San Bernardino)? Twenty children & 6 adults/1 semi-automic rifle and two semi-automatic pistols (Sandy Hook)? Thirty-two people/two semi-automatic pistols (Virginia Tech)? Forty-nine people/1 semi-automatic rifle & 1 semi-automatic pistol (Pulse nightclub)? 59 dead, 560 injured / 10+ semi-automatic weapons (Vegas)?

. . . . .


I don’t feel like looking up the dates of these events. Could you tell me how many days your timeline covers?

I’d like to know, in your timeline, how many days went by without anyone being killed with/by a semi-automatic weapon.
 
Although let's be honest anyone who does that IS mentally ill

It might depend upon your definition of mentally ill. I was responding to a post where the person consistently twists everything I post into a pretzel and then launches in to a tirade.
 
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I am sorry for the victims and their families. They were sitting ducks.

I connote terrorism with a political agenda. So far it doesn't seem like there was a political agenda. One assumes that normal people would not commit mass murder, so it is assumed that he was mentally deranged.

I think that automatic weapons should be outlawed, but since it is so easy to modify them, that really couldn't be enforced. So it looks like there wasn't any easy way that this could have been prevented. I also think that gun ownership should be limited to a maximum of 3 guns per owner with special allowances for antique collectors.
 
I see that Trump offered 'warmest condolences'....what an odd way to express it. Most would offer their deepest condolences.

He had to pull them out of the freezer and heat 'em in the microwave. They weren't fresh (or deep), but they were warm.
 
It was interesting that when the SWAT team broke into the room he was already dead. I'd like to know just how long he was dead before the shooting took place.
 
The figures that Kara posted made my jaw drop.

Here in Scotland there is on average 2/5 killings by guns annually.

Our problem is knifes, apparently it is cool to carry a blade. Not cool when you are the one dealing with the aftermath.

I watched an interview with this monsters brother, you could tell that he was out of his mind with grief for the victims.
 
Unless the Washington Post is wrong, I meant automatic

If so, that's a scary statistic.

Because the gun lobby has prevented detailed fact-gathering on how many of these weapons there are out there, most of the numbers cited by researchers have been best guesses. So, when public health researchers say that there are more guns than people in the US, or that 1.5 million of the guns are semi-automatic- those are inferred statistics based upon gun sales. There's no registry and most of the retail gun sales records are based on paper files not databases. There are no records of private gun sales, so once it leaves the hands of a federally approved gun retailer, no one knows what happens to the gun.


I don’t feel like looking up the dates of these events. Could you tell me how many days your timeline covers?

I’d like to know, in your timeline, how many days went by without anyone being killed with/by a semi-automatic weapon.
Do you think this makes a difference to the families of the 59 people killed Sunday night? Or to the 500+ people who were wounded?

The shooter had no political agenda, no criminal past, and was a fucking multi-millionaire real estate investor? Man, this gets weirder and weirder. Nothing makes sense.
None of it makes sense.

Ponder for a moment the fact that we are now in a place where we have to find logic in a completely illogical scenario. Is there a reason that would explain how and why someone would shoot at 22,000 people with automatic weapons from 900 yards away in the dark while they were contained in a concert venue surrounded by 4 walls?

A decade ago would we have worried that it wasn't safe to go to a concert on a fall night to listen to country music? Or go to a movie theater? Or to send your kids to school?


Our problem is knifes, apparently it is cool to carry a blade. Not cool when you are the one dealing with the aftermath.
The first time I went to a wedding where the men had on kilts, it was surprising that they also had a knife worn on their leg. Probably the second most common discussion (after "what are you wearing under the kilt?") was a discussion of whether to wear the knife on the left or on the right.

Thankfully, none of us were worried that someone was going to pull out the knife (sgian dubh?) and kill the wedding party and the guests.

The figures that Kara posted made my jaw drop.
Here in Scotland there is on average 2/5 killings by guns annually.
If you want to be shocked more, read through the stats on the Gun Violence Archive (non-profit organization that compiles statistics on gun violence in the US).

I mentioned earlier that so many of the statistics that we have are based on "guestimates". Part of the reason is that the CDC was banned from doing research on gun violence in 1996 after lobbying by the gun industry and even though the Sandy Hook shooting resulted in a partial lifting of the research ban, the program hasn't been funded (and the Trump budget targets more cuts for the CDC).

So, all we know if there's a lot of guns and a lot of gun deaths. And that it's getting worse.

Any time we have a fire that kills a lot of people or a hurricane that destroys property, we try to stop and figure what happened and how we can prevent it from happening again. That logical and preventative approach is lacking when it comes to gun violence. At public health conferences where these are discussed, you see a lot of public health people who are speechless because they know that there's a big problem, not much data about the problem and they're afraid that it may be too late to do anything about it.
 
The first time I went to a wedding where the men had on kilts, it was surprising that they also had a knife worn on their leg. Probably the second most common discussion (after "what are you wearing under the kilt?") was a discussion of whether to wear the knife on the left or on the right.

Sikhs also wear ceremonial knives, but in their belts
 

Absolutely.

Once it was clear that the NRA ran America.....there is no sense in wringing hands and offering prayers or doing anything else.

And this year, once Congress moved to make ownership of guns by people with mental illnesses a right, but getting treated for being shot a privilege....it is pretty clear that the soul of America has been stolen.

But don't worry folks. Because this shooting was done by a white guy, it will be out of the news in about 72 hours as the country shifts its rage back to football players kneeling on the field.
 
Over 50 dead......

Steven Paddock...64 year old white male.

Deadliest mass shooting in the history of the US.

But now is not the time to talk about stricter gun control.

And expect TrumpCo. to be totally silent on this.

Yes, that seems to be the view of the Trump administration according to Sarah Huckabee Sanders. For these people it is never the time to talk about something that makes so much sense.
 
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