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Ice Age arriving in 2030, justi in time to save us from warming.

Of course Ben's article says nothing Ben has prophesied. I don't know why I even bother with his links. I suppose hope springs eternal.

It's deeply dishonest however to take an article speculating on sunspot activity and then insist that "Liberals" are going to use it to rule the world. I suppose they;re just that dastardly and clever.

But then Ben is usually dishonest about the things he links.

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BTW Ben, Climate Change isn't about sunspots - which you'd know if you weren't so deeply intellectually bankrupt.
 
(From linked article)

Zharkova and her colleagues derived their model using a technique called 'principal component analysis' of the magnetic field observations from the Wilcox Solar Observatory in California.

Interesting concept.

Principle Component Analysis is very similar to the technique used in image compression, such as that used to produce JPG files from RAW data. It also forms the basis for facial recognition software and similar applications.
 
Boy are liberals going to crucify these scientists, predicting a new ice age in 2030.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...un-sleep-2020-cause-temperatures-plummet.html
Now the liberals have to change gears to find some way to tax the ice age and use it to justify authoritarianism. Just when they thought warming was their holy grail.

Naw, it is only one uncorroborated study. But it will give republicans another excuse for their irrational denial of the scientific reality of climate change and to continue their campaign of totalitarian fascist corporatism.
 
Typical moronic post once again illustrating the thick mentality of the severe right wing. There are a infinite number of unknowns in the vast universe that could lead to our demise and we have absolutely no control over. Many of the things that could or will happen to the Earth are not even known. What we have some control over is how we treat problems on Earth that we cause.
By the logic used here why not smoke? Because a bus could kill you tomorrow so go ahead and light up you're gonna die anyway.
 
Typical moronic post once again illustrating the thick mentality of the severe right wing. There are a infinite number of unknowns in the vast universe that could lead to our demise and we have absolutely no control over. Many of the things that could or will happen to the Earth are not even known. What we have some control over is how we treat problems on Earth that we cause.
By the logic used here why not smoke? Because a bus could kill you tomorrow so go ahead and light up you're gonna die anyway.
Both theories are computer models, and it is doubtful that we can do anything to affect either trend.
 
James Mountain "Jim" Inhofe (R. Oklahoma) has declared that "global warming" is a hoax. Since Republicons are virtually incapable of lying, then it must be a hoax. Case dismissed.
 
Boy are liberals going to crucify these scientists, predicting a new ice age in 2030.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...un-sleep-2020-cause-temperatures-plummet.html
Now the liberals have to change gears to find some way to tax the ice age and use it to justify authoritarianism. Just when they thought warming was their holy grail.

As you correctly point out, it does not matter to liberals whether the earth is warming or cooling. We will manage affairs on the basis of our best understanding of what needs to be done for the health of our planet.

We don't have an agenda to deny reality.

You, on the other hand, seem compelled to promote an agenda. You will only accept a few crumbs of evidence which seem contrary to the overwhelming and universal conclusion that the earth is warming as a result of human activity. Your criteria for acceptance of evidence appears to be whether or not you like the political implications of the evidence, not the quality of the science.


Both theories are computer models...

No, they're not. Global climate change has been observed experimentally. Atmospheric CO2 levels have been measured for decades. Atmospheric temperatures and weather data have been recorded for centuries. Global climate change is not some "computer model." It is a combined observational and experimental analysis.


...and it is doubtful that we can do anything to affect either trend.

I get that you don't believe it is possible to save mankind and you don't wish to be bothered with the effort.

What I don't get is why you and your political party want to stop those of us who do. Are you afraid we will succeed? Do you advocate the extinction of homo sapiens from the planet?
 
From Wikipedia "Totalitarianism is a political system in which the state holds total control over the society and seeks to control all aspects of public and private life wherever possible"

I, and on some level, most Republicans see global warming as the basis for another totalitarian ideology. We know the democrats all too well. They have taken the phrase "regulate commerce among the states" as a justification for absolute control of business and many aspects of our individual lives. They have used their own racism as a further source of power over thought and speech. They have consistently used class warfare as a source of power.
There is no question that the democrats have and will use the bugaboo of global warming as an ideology justifying total control of the economy and our lives. Everything effects the environment, so the government must control everything.
I see global warming as primarily a political ideology with perhaps a kernel of fact, but with a strong motive to exaggerate and distort the kernel. Notice the calls for silencing of "deniers" of the ideology, not unlike other totalitarian ideologies. Also notice that they ignore the ideology when it suits their political purposes. While there are calls for regulation of business and our lives to limit emissions, the same people insist upon the continued massive flood of immigrants, and creators of emissions and pollution, because they will likely vote democrat. Notice that there are virtually no calls for limitation of population growth world wide or in the US, even though the growth dooms all other attempts of limit emissions to failure.
The liberal response to warming is "hooray, we get to tax, tax, tax and regulate, regulate, regulate."
 
For Benvolio.

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Boy are liberals going to crucify these scientists, predicting a new ice age in 2030.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...un-sleep-2020-cause-temperatures-plummet.html
Now the liberals have to change gears to find some way to tax the ice age and use it to justify authoritarianism. Just when they thought warming was their holy grail.

[Text: Removed] it is global warming that is going to cause this. According to Scientists not idiots we have now passed the point of correcting what we have done. But no where in the Western world does anyone care about anything past there children and some maybe there grand children.
 
[Text: Removed] it is global warming that is going to cause this. According to Scientists not idiots we have now passed the point of correcting what we have done. But no where in the Western world does anyone care about anything past there children and some maybe there grand children.

What do you mean warming "is going to cause this". Warming is not causing the new ice age, it is the result of cycles in the sun's internal working. If we have passed the point of correcting on warming, it confirms what I have often said here, that is, that we have no chance of stopping it. And, as I repeated below, if we cannot stop the population explosion, none of the other measures will mean anything.
Perhaps the ice age and warming will ameliorate each other.
 
What do you mean warming "is going to cause this". Warming is not causing the new ice age, it is the result of cycles in the sun's internal working. If we have passed the point of correcting on warming, it confirms what I have often said here, that is, that we have no chance of stopping it. And, as I repeated below, if we cannot stop the population explosion, none of the other measures will mean anything.
Perhaps the ice age and warming will ameliorate each other.
Are you on the Koch brothers' payroll?
 
From Wikipedia "Totalitarianism is a political system in which the state holds total control over the society and seeks to control all aspects of public and private life wherever possible"

I, and on some level, most Republicans see global warming as the basis for another totalitarian ideology. We know the democrats all too well. They have taken the phrase "regulate commerce among the states" as a justification for absolute control of business and many aspects of our individual lives. They have used their own racism as a further source of power over thought and speech. They have consistently used class warfare as a source of power.
There is no question that the democrats have and will use the bugaboo of global warming as an ideology justifying total control of the economy and our lives. Everything effects the environment, so the government must control everything.
I see global warming as primarily a political ideology with perhaps a kernel of fact, but with a strong motive to exaggerate and distort the kernel. Notice the calls for silencing of "deniers" of the ideology, not unlike other totalitarian ideologies. Also notice that they ignore the ideology when it suits their political purposes. While there are calls for regulation of business and our lives to limit emissions, the same people insist upon the continued massive flood of immigrants, and creators of emissions and pollution, because they will likely vote democrat. Notice that there are virtually no calls for limitation of population growth world wide or in the US, even though the growth dooms all other attempts of limit emissions to failure.
The liberal response to warming is "hooray, we get to tax, tax, tax and regulate, regulate, regulate."

This is paranoia at its most extreme.

You dare not acknowledge the truth of climate science, because that will somehow cause Democrats to seize control of the US government, resulting in totalitarianism and the end of democracy in America.

You dare not embrace truth, because your party cannot function without fantasy. You cannot win elections without deceiving people into voting for you.

What a spectacular admission of failure!
 
James Mountain "Jim" Inhofe (R. Oklahoma) has declared that "global warming" is a hoax. Since Republicons are virtually incapable of lying, then it must be a hoax. Case dismissed.

I think Ben is Jim Inhofe. :eek:
 
Except yours was proven to be false; similar to most of the 30 second Republican talking points. Global warming has been proven -- so much so, even the pope is speaking out on it.
 
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