If carb makes us fat, why are low carb gurus... fat?

[belamyi]

^ You also have to consider that people in general work in a very simple way, and consider tricky or even evil verbosity something which is not the simple "X is bad", but "X becomes bad only in a certain condition or situation".

 

[Dominus]

Today for lunch, I stopped by subway and ordered a veggie delight 6 inch with wheat bread. I was stuffed after eating that. And ot was the first thing that I ate today.

Thought to myself. I used to order a 12 inch steak or chicken sub and downed that whole thing easy.

Yesterday, I ate this for lunch.



And I ate this for dinner last night.



These stuff really curb my appetite lately. I don't feel the urge to eat when I'm hungry. I feel full longer. And I have no problem doing #2 every morning. Only need to do it once a day.

Switching to plant based starch diet is liberating. And the best part is I still workout 5-6 times a week and have plenty of energy to do so.

 

[Dominus]

My dinner for tonight. Had 2 plates of this stuff. Apparently, brown rice contains lots of protein. I just started bulking again after leaning for a few months.

 

[nycguydowntown]

My heritage is Italian--I would rather eat a perfectly made pasta--I'm talking in Italy or a great restaurant or someone who knows how to cook Italian---than a big old slab of meat any day of the week.

 

[Charon]

title should be changed to "aristomaniac's food diary" tbh

 

[Dominus]

title should be changed to "aristomaniac's food diary" tbh

Well, I'm trying to make a point. According to the low carbers, I should be ballooning and my body fat percentage should be skyrocketing considering everything I eat is mainly carb. And the main part of my dinner was *gasp* the dreaded starch. I assure you, I'm no ballooning.

Another point is your meal doesn't always have to be fatty and tasty. One of the things that keep popping up regarding obese kids is that they've been raised to ignore carbs like vegetables, fruits, and starch. Instead, they eat processed crap like pizza and chicken fingers. The latest fear of starch and carb is making things worse. People actually believe that my plate there would actually make me fat. That's how bad it's gotten regarding the fear of carbs.

 

[Latimer]

I don't pay much attention these days to carb/fat/protein ratios.

For what it's worth:

I had my first meal of the day at 1:00, which meant that I had fasted for 19 hours (I try for at least 18.) At that meal I had muesli, yogurt, 3 slices of whole grain toast, butter and jam and an espresso.

Didn't eat again until dinner, except for a drink at about 3:00 of water, apple.cider vinegar, salt, cinnamon, ginger, turmeric, cream of tartar, and matcha tea powder.

Dinner was at 6:00, with 2 lamajoun, a sort of Armenian pizza with a thin layer of ground beef and tomato, hummus with microwaved rounds of sweet potatoes for dipping, marinated artichoke hearts, and a salad of greens, tomatoes, cucumber and avocado dressed with olive oil and vinegar, and a half a glass of rosé. Dessert was an apple.

 

[rareboy]

My heritage is Italian--I would rather eat a perfectly made pasta--I'm talking in Italy or a great restaurant or someone who knows how to cook Italian---than a big old slab of meat any day of the week.

I totally agree.

Pasta is absolutely my kryptonite.

We have it about once a month now. I allow myself about 3 cups.

 

[Dominus]

I don't pay much attention these days to carb/fat/protein ratios.

For what it's worth:

I had my first meal of the day at 1:00, which meant that I had fasted for 19 hours (I try for at least 18.) At that meal I had muesli, yogurt, 3 slices of whole grain toast, butter and jam and an espresso.

Didn't eat again until dinner, except for a drink at about 3:00 of water, apple.cider vinegar, salt, cinnamon, ginger, turmeric, cream of tartar, and matcha tea powder.

Dinner was at 6:00, with 2 lamajoun, a sort of Armenian pizza with a thin layer of ground beef and tomato, hummus with microwaved rounds of sweet potatoes for dipping, marinated artichoke hearts, and a salad of greens, tomatoes, cucumber and avocado dressed with olive oil and vinegar, and a half a glass of rosé. Dessert was an apple.

Sounds like you're doing everything right.

A few years back, my body fat percentage was around 26% and had type 2. I also believed in this low carb thing and decided to do keto and stuff. Sure, it made me lose weight but it dramatically raised my blood pressure. Then through my research I found an interesting fact. If you have a clog in your kitchen drain and water overflows, do you blame the water or do you blame whatever that is clogging your drain? Sure, limiting the water you put in the sink temporarily solves the problem of it overflowing. Heck, if you stop putting water into the sink all together, problem is solved, right?

And that's what the low carb movement is doing. They are blaming the water for the various diseases that stemmed from unhealthy eating habits. I'm talking about the oil, sugar, salt, processed meat, processed simple carbs, etc. Just don't eat fruits and vegetables (because you know they're carbs). OMG starches are evil! Just stop putting water in that sink and the problem goes away, right?

People have been thriving on potatos, grains, rice, quinoa, corn, beans, etc. for as long as there's been people around. But now all of a sudden we need to eat steak all the time to be healthy?

If anything, I keep bringing this topic up because people keep asking me why I'm eating that stuff on my dinner plate? It's going to make me fat because that's all carb and starch. Especially the rice. Man, rice is starch. I'm always like what's wrong with starch? And they'd be like Iunno starch is bad for you.

I suppose those kings and aristocrats loved to only eat vegetables and starchy foods?

One noticeable difference ever since I have been switching to mostly starchy foods is I heal a lot faster nowadays. Someone on here even accused me of photoshopping because of my healing rate. I had a deep cut a few weeks ago when I broke a window while trying to remove it. A piece of glass really got me in my arm. Saw layers and everything in my flesh. The wound closed up a couple days later and was fully healed a week later or so. Back when I had type 2, high blood pressure, gout, etc. it always took forever for anything to heal. And back then I was avoiding carb like the plague because I also bought into the all-carbs-are-bad movement.

 

[rareboy]

Well, I'm trying to make a point. According to the low carbers, I should be ballooning and my body fat percentage should be skyrocketing considering everything I eat is mainly carb. And the main part of my dinner was *gasp* the dreaded starch. I assure you, I'm no ballooning.

Another point is your meal doesn't always have to be fatty and tasty. One of the things that keep popping up regarding obese kids is that they've been raised to ignore carbs like vegetables, fruits, and starch. Instead, they eat processed crap like pizza and chicken fingers. The latest fear of starch and carb is making things worse. People actually believe that my plate there would actually make me fat. That's how bad it's gotten regarding the fear of carbs.

You keep trying to make a point that no one here is arguing.

As long as you consume complex carbs and expend the amount of energy you do to maintain your weight, which for you, includes working out in a gym, you can eat all the carbs you want.

For sedentary people, who often consume simple processed carbs, these convert to fat.

 

[Dominus]

I totally agree.

Pasta is absolutely my kryptonite.

We have it about once a month now. I allow myself about 3 cups.

Pasta is great. I will easily eat 2 plates of that in one sitting.

I must say you have incredible self control. How the fork do you do that? Do you feel satisfied after eating so little of it?

 

[Dominus]

You keep trying to make a point that no one here is arguing.

As long as you consume complex carbs and expend the amount of energy you do to maintain your weight, which for you, includes working out in a gym, you can eat all the carbs you want.

For sedentary people, who often consume simple processed carbs, these convert to fat.

I guess I'm arguing with people I encounter in real life who believe that all carbs are bad. I seriously had someone try to tell me that my plate there of rice and vegetables was going to make me fat. They honestly can't tell the difference between that and cake, which is also all carb. To them, cake is all carb and it's bad. Rice and vegetables are all carb, too, so they must be bad. I know, makes no sense. But that's an inevitable result of the low carb movement, declaring a blanket war on all carbs. All of a sudden, starch, a staple food for ALL civilizations, somehow has become a dirty word.

 

[rareboy]

Pasta is great. I will easily eat 2 plates of that in one sitting.

I must say you have incredible self control. How the fork do you do that? Do you feel satisfied after eating so little of it?

Oh yes.

It is a huge treat. I eat it very slowly.

And I always have a salad with it now in order to fill up on greens and roughage before I pack away the pasta.