The Original Gay Porn Community - Free Gay Movies and Photos, Gay Porn Site Reviews and Adult Gay Forums

  • Welcome To Just Us Boys - The World's Largest Gay Message Board Community

    In order to comply with recent US Supreme Court rulings regarding adult content, we will be making changes in the future to require that you log into your account to view adult content on the site.
    If you do not have an account, please register.
    REGISTER HERE - 100% FREE / We Will Never Sell Your Info

    PLEASE READ: To register, turn off your VPN (iPhone users- disable iCloud); you can re-enable the VPN after registration. You must maintain an active email address on your account: disposable email addresses cannot be used to register.

  • The Support & Advice forum is a no-flame zone.
    The members offering support and advice do so with the best intention. If you ask for advice, we don't require you to take the advice, but we do ask that you listen and give it consideration.

Im seeking some advice on a guy ive been seeing for a while.. Im lost!

Joined
May 12, 2008
Posts
16
Reaction score
0
Points
0
So i'm seeking a little advice.. Some of this info, might be irrelevent but it makes me feel better to type it out.. Im sorry this is soooo long, i'm just quite lost.

Ive been seeing this guy for about 6 months now. I'm 21, he's 31. We met through Adam4adam( Ugh, I know. Its a fuck site... NOT my scene but I gave it a shot to introduce myself to new people after I moved..) He sent me the sweetest, silliest message, not the usual " whats up?" "Wanna fuck?" messages that you usually get on a site like that. He was very forward (not in an overly sexual way) about how cute he thought i was. I found his "personality" in his messages very sweet and sexy at the same time. He told me that he really respected the fact that I didnt have nude shots up on a4a. He wouldnt unlock his last picture becuse it was nude and he said that he would prefer to date me and didnt want me to see it right away. I really wanted to see. He unlocked, but I DIDNT look. I wanted to get to know him first instead of his penis..We talked for about a week or so online, did the facebook add thing, you know.. We decided to meet up for a date. I was very nervous and i didnt know what to say. I was SURE he could feel my nerves.. I was instantly attracted to him physically, when I met him. He took me to a great resturaunt downtown and then we went back to his place to hang out. We were talking and playing some pool and he asked if he could have a kiss. I gave in. This was a new thing for me, as I had never been on a date, let alone kissed someone.. It was amazing.. HE was amazing. We layed down on the couch and watched a movie.. Ileaned into be next to him, but neither of us tried anything. I felt he had that respect for me..

Cut to our third date, where we met up at his place. (he was moving to his other loft, I told him i'd help him pack) He asked if I was hungry. There was a new sushi resturaunt under his bulding. I had never tried sushi before, but i was willing to try it with him. Mainly because I knew that he liked introducing people to new things like that.. The sushi was great. and HE was still great.. We came back to the apartment to start packing his things. We sat on the couch talked and joked around, started tickling and just being silly.. ticklling lead to intense making out.. The bam! Sex. This was my first time, and he was very patient.. We didnt use protection ( he's neg, Im neg. But obviously a stupid choice..) It was amazing. He was amazing..

I recently, about 3 weeks ago, went home for a week and a half to visit family. The night before i left he asked if I wanted to go out. I decided i should since i had to leave at 4am and I didnt plan on sleeping. and Mainly so I could see him. He said he would take me to the airport instead of me having to take a cab, and he stayed up with me. While I was at home, with everything going on around me, he was all I could think about. I missed him. Then I realized. I was in love.. I had this urge to say it, and Ikept trying to figure out how. I didnt get alot of responses from him with text messages, so I decided I should talk to him online. I had deleted my a4a account several months before. I figured I could talk to him on here, so i threw my account back together, got on and realized he was online and had changed his location to the new area he was living in.. I hadnt thought to myself about how I would feel if he was ACTUALLY online a4a, let alone changing his location. I had just realized I was in love. I felt like a fool.. I felt replaceable. I felt used.

When I returned, I made silly jokes about it to him, but I was actually hurting.. The fact that he might still be using it to hook up with other guys was killing me..
We got into a spat about it later on.. I told him how much it hurt me and that i care for him very much( notice I didnt use the word "love"...Yet.) but I couldnt be with someone if they plan on having sex with other people. He said he wasnt interested in a relationship at the moment and he liked what we had going. He wanted the options to be available. Wanting all these "options" to be available for himself made me feel even more like shit.. He said "we should use condoms from now on so you wont have to question it." (which was a smart idea to use them, but his idea behind it made me feel stupid, as if i brought this all on myself..) He never would tell me if he had sex with anyone or not. I dont know for sure, but I honestly believe he didnt.. even though there is still some doubt in my mind. Isnt that my right to know? We were having sex! I should know.... right??

I decided I wanted to keep seeing him. I feel like the "just friends" thing would only make things worse for me at this point in my life. I told him I loved him during a discussion about the a4a incident. I explained that thats why i was hurt by the situation. because i realized i was in love. I didnt expect anything. He told me he cares for me very much. that hes very attracted to me. I told him that i wasnt expecting to hear it back when i said it. he told me i should. He said if I talked with people about this, they would probably tell me to end it.. Thats not what I want. Thats not what he wants.. (as far as I know)
Im not unhappy with my choice to continue seeing him. I'm just waiting. patiently. Hoping he'll feel the same way.

He's on a plane to new york for a month as i type this.. I "jokingly" (but ment it)
told him no kissing or cuddling. He laughed it off and said he wouldnt have sex. I believe him. but theres still a sliver of doubt..

Im so lost in all of this.. I just need advice. I dont know what exactly, i need it for, just.. advice.. HELP!
 
Any advice would be great.. This has been sitting really heavy on me..
 
I think everybody of any experience has been through something like this. I was actually talking to a friend of mine last week about a similar situation she was in. My recommendation would be to get out. If you want a real relationship, find someone who wants one, too. It may suck to be alone for a while, but once you feel what 100% feels like, you'll know it's worth the wait.

Granted, I expect you probably won't take my advice (I wouldn't have), and you'll keep with him until it hits rock bottom, and either you take it as a lesson about relationships, or as a sign to give up on relationships entirely and become a county-famous glory hole slut.
 
Welcome to JUB. What I'm most concerned about is the bareback sex. Above all else do not give in to pure emotion with someone who is new in your life. Be your own best friend. What advice would you give your best friend if they told you this story?
 
There's not an easy answer here.

In a few years, you'll be dating someone and they'll fall in love with you very quickly and you'll be saying to yourself, "Shit! What do I do now? I'm not really wanting something this serious right now." It will make a lot more sense to you then.

The key to all of this is the difference in age and the difference in experience. You're young, you're new to this and you're in search of love.

What's not clear is what he's in search of. He certainly loves the seduction process- the way that he came on to you with the flattery and attention. But the problem with a lot of these guys is that while they're good at the dating and romance part, they're not as good with the relationship part. It's like the story about the dog that always chases cars- what would the dog do if he ever actually caught a car?

Since you are new to this, you have to decide what you want. And you have to decide whether this guy can give that to you. If he can't, you're wasting your time.
 
Thank you all! your input is greatly appreciated. :) Ive grow to know and love this guy. He is really sweet to me, I just wish i was completly sure of what he wants... When I ask him questions like this he seems to shut down a bit. I told him that i was feeling selfish for the things I wanted from him. He told me I was acually being very selfless and couragous.. That I was wise beond my years for being able to open up to someone eomotionally like that. When I first met him, I recall him telling me "youre going to be the one that breaks my heart.." Clearly, I feel that I am going to be the one hurt in all of this. All these things he was saying to me just indirectly gave me the impression he was looking for a relationship. Even thought I really wasnt. Actually I didnt know what i was looking for. And I wanst really thinking about what either of us were wanting out of this until I developed these feelings.. He's really great and I want him to be in my life whether we're together or not... But if we are continuing seeing each other, I dont want him having casual sex with whoever... and expecting me not to worry about weather hes going to or not.. am I wrong or selfish in wanting that??
 
But if we are continuing seeing each other, I dont want him having casual sex with whoever... and expecting me not to worry about weather hes going to or not.. am I wrong or selfish in wanting that??

You're not wrong to want it.

You are wrong to settle for less if, in fact, that is what you want.
 
Thanks for your reply.. Its helped alot to hear what people think.. I really want a direct answer from him if he's been with anyone else since we've been seeing each other. Even though he wouldnt tell me, I feel like its my right to know for sure. Especially because we werent safe. He said he wanst going to tell me if he did or didnt, but He said he would never put me in danger.. Which is a crafty way of getting around the question without having to actually answer it. I really dont think he has. but theres still that doubt.. Honestly, im scared to bring it up again with him.
 
it's a simple question. Did you have sex with someone else or didn't you? if he didn't, why wouldn't he just say so? What would he have to lose? If he DID have sex with someone else he's risking losing you. My guess is he did. He's not going to lie to you about it but he's not going to tell you the truth either. He's being slick and splitting hairs.

I'd be very careful. I'm not talking about safe sex either. Your in a very vulnerable position right now. Your in love and you want to trust him. Your brain is telling you 1 thing and your heart another. More often than not the heart wins and that can lead to some pretty hard times. I know your not going to take the advice but I'd end this before I got further attached to him. He can't commit to you and he's not being honest. A relationship without honesty and trust is doomed. It's not going to be easy. break ups never are. In the end it will be better for you.

Wish you nothing but the best. You will find the right person. Just keep looking.

Steven.
 
He said he didnt want to answer because neither answer would be good. He said if he did then obviously it would be bad, but if he didnt, he didnt want me to feel regret for bringing it up and stressing myself over it. I dont remember the exact wording, but it made sence. However, thats not the way I feel. I want to know. Do I have the RIGHT to know?? Honestly?
 
He said he didnt want to answer because neither answer would be good.

He's right. It's like asking "Are you still stealing from your employer?". Neither "yes" nor "no" is an acceptable answer.


Do I have the RIGHT to know?? Honestly?

Honestly, no.

And the fact that you even have to ask the question is even worse than either answer.

Once trust is gone, what is left?
 
He doesn't sound that great. Just a horny guy who will play some games to get what he wants (sex). Sorry, that's my observation having seen many many situations like this. The fact that he got you into bareback is only supports my observation. What guy doesn't want to bareback a young virgin? If he really cared about you I would think he'd take precautions and use a condom despite allegedly being neg. At least, I would.
 
Thanks so much for your answers. Talking about this has really taken a load off my mind. Im so glad there is a place like this to discuss these things. You cant get a true answer out of friends. Their opinions are biased they just tell you the things you want to hear! I'm going to try and not take what he and I have so seriously and just have fun with him, and slow down a bit. I guess I really dont need to label it yet. Even based on how I feel about him, Im not sure I'M even ready for an actual relationship... I not sure what I want/ wanted from him. Im new at this. These feelings are all new to me. I enjoy spending time with him, I know that, and I think he feels the same way. So i'll leave it at that. The thing is, I DO trust him. Im realizing the problem with questioning him, is coming from me. I'm scared of being hurt by someone I trust. It happens quite often to me. I just always assume its going to happen.

He's someone that I have alot of respect for and want to have around for the rest of my life, wether it be dating, a relationship, or even a friendship...And in the future, if we decide to take a step further, then great! If not, Then I think we can be great friends. And I honestly mean that.

You all are great! I'm sure i'll be back. haha!
 
The fact that he got you into bareback is only supports my observation. What guy doesn't want to bareback a young virgin? If he really cared about you I would think he'd take precautions and use a condom despite allegedly being neg. At least, I would.

He didnt "get" me into anything. Clearly im just as much at fault, too. We practice safe sex now.

Thanks for the advice everyone. :)
 
The thing is, I DO trust him. Im realizing the problem with questioning him, is coming from me. I'm scared of being hurt by someone I trust. It happens quite often to me. I just always assume its going to happen.

I think your trust is somewhat misplaced. It sounds like he is just trying to woo you in order to have sex with you. The fact that he couldn't answer a simple question is a red flag for me. I wouldn't assume exclusivity unless you've both agreed on it. I also wouldn't necessarily trust that he is negative unless you both go for the test at the same time. When you don't know someone, it's not worth risking your health.

He's someone that I have alot of respect for and want to have around for the rest of my life, wether it be dating, a relationship, or even a friendship...And in the future, if we decide to take a step further, then great! If not, Then I think we can be great friends. And I honestly mean that.

When I was 21/22, there were some people I really liked and thought I'd always be close with, but after I moved away the contact stopped. Even with local guys I always felt like I was the one making the call. When I stopped calling they did too.

My point is don't build someone up and put too much energy into someone if you aren't getting the same back. The fact that you want to be exclusive and he doesn't seem to want that is a sign of the inequality in the relationship.

I would move on if I were you and start dating other guys.

Good luck regardless.
 
Ugh! You guys got me thinking again! haha! The thing is, our "relationship" (I dont know what else to call it..??) Isnt based on sex. Sure we have sex regularly, but We go on dates, spend the night with each other WITHOUT having sex, and just get to know each other and hang out and talk. He introduces me to all his friends, even his family! I remember a time we were out a bar talking with some friends. A guy came up to him and started hitting on him, asking him if he could kiss him, blah blah... The guy asked if i was his boyfriend, so he told the guy that we were together. He didnt respond to the word "boyfriend."(because technically we arent "boyfriends") but he was respectful to me about the whole thing. I dont feel like he's using me, I'm just not sure what he wants..
 
nope, you are not an idiot. you are just going through growing pains, like we all have to do. *hug* good luck with you situation.
 
He said that he likes to have his "options." You are one of his options.

It's okay to feel this way, marcag89. Usually at some point we all fall for someone who is not ready or willing to reciprocate those feelings.

I think you need to take a stand. Sometimes you have to go against your feelings of attachment, it's not easy and requires discipline. You're afraid of losing him, so you feel too vulnerable to stand up for yourself. Give him an indication that you are willing to walk out on him. One of two things will happen:

1. He doesn't care about you, so he'll be glad to ease out and disappear. If this happens, he's not worth your time. He would be taking the easy way out.

2. He does care about you, and he'll fight to keep you around. If this happens, it's still important for you not to tip your hand. You may still feel deeply for him, but let him become the vulnerable one with a little game of apathy.

You're not an idiot. Regardless of the outcome, use this experience for personal growth. I don't think keeping him around as a friend for life is a good idea. When you see him with someone else, you'll probably get upset. You have to get what you want, and if he can't give it to you, move on from him.
 
He's already on Adam4Adam in New York. Changed the location and everything...

I just dont know what i want..
 
Back
Top