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I'm thinking about running away

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How long ago was your hernia repair? Unless it was very recent, you should not have pain. Try an appointment with the surgeon if you have a problem with your regular Doctor.
Prilosec takes care of the GERD for most people, but you need to be carful of you diet in the evening. Some people take Prilosec twice a day, but you should ask your Doctor. GERD is worst when you are lying down, so staying in bed is the wrong thing. You can buy a foam wedge which will raise you upper body four or five inches, and it will help the GERD a lot. You should be able to achieve the same effect with old clothing or something under the upper part of your mattress. The single worst cause of heartburn is Coffee, so I suggest you try eliminating it, especially in the evening.
 
I am mystified that you say you don't get to see your Mom often, but then you say you live with her?
 
...........................My mom works long hours, 6 days a week, that is why I don't get to see her even though we live in the same house. I am usually asleep when she leaves to go to work or returns home.

Well there is one simple change you can make to improve things. Stop sleeping when your mother is in the house. Change your rhythm and get up at the same time as she does, share breakfast and be up and about when she returns from work to eat together. You can then see more of her and catch up on your sleep when she is not there.
 
Well hon.

Part of your issue is just about growing up, part of it is about physical health and part is about mental health.

You can't run away. You should leave your mother's home and get out there on your own, but if you think about it as running away, you need to give your head a shake, because you are going to find that you could run to the ends of the earth and the underlying problems aren't going to go away.

I had a hernia repair and have ongoing pain...but I threw out the pain meds for it long ago. What you have to get under control though is the GERD. Have you also been screened for an ulcer? Acid Reflux is going to be the death of you. It can lead to all kinds of problems. You may need an operation that our friend recently had at the Mayo clinic to prevent the backflow of stomach acid, I take nexium and it works great for me...I rarely have an episode now.

As far as the depression goes, you need to sort out the underlying cause as well and get that sorted out before you make irrational and radical lifestyle changes, because the depression isn't going to go away on its own either. Do you take an SRI? Do you have severely disturbed sleep? Do you exercise? Is your diet totally healthy or packed with HFCS and monosdium glutamate?

If your current MD isn't helping you get some of this shit sorted out, it is time for you to put some effort into finding a good homo friendly Doc who can help give you the tools you need to deal with a lot of this stuff you have going on.

I think it is good that you have high academic goals and of course, as you know these will require superlative efforts on your part to make them happen...including having jaw dropping grades. So when you are making up your plans, make sure that they include these realities and figure out how you will be able to support yourself and make it through university. Because otherwise, it is a 'designed to fail' plan and will only result in greater stress and poorer physical health as well.
 
I have had GERD for years and have some suggestions. The other problems may get better if your health improves. Many people take Prilosec first in the morning before breakfast, and again in afternoon before dinner. I suggest you try it and see if it helps. I assume you have learned to avoid greasy and fibrous foods in the evening.
The hernia repair should not cause pain. I suggest you consult the surgeon who did the repair.
 
You feel isolated, you live with your mom, but have no contact with her to speak of.
I am no dr., I do have GIRD, it can be painful, I thought that I was having a heart attack the first time that I had an episode with acid reflux.
I did find that eating less and of course staying away from some things brought it under control. I wonder if the anxiety plays a roll in your acid problems, I think that we produce more acid when under stress.
In all honesty I don't think that running away or moving will help, GIRD, stress and anxiety will be where ever you go.
I would ask if you go anywhere, are you involved in any activities, do you have contact with guys that are your age?
If not try a community center for GLBT folks, get involved.
I had hernia surgery on both sides and still get some discomfort at times and it has been years, some things, like sore feet or a bad hair day, we have to learn to live with, life ain't perfect, other things we can work on and repair with the help of others.
I hope that this works out for you, be patient.
 
The most effective anti acid is bicarbonate of soda. It is available in "Alka Seltzer Heartburn" without aspirin, or in baking soda, rather than baking powder. I assume the Doctor has not told you to limit salt or sodium. Tums and other forms of calcium carbonate do not help much in my experience.
I think you should mention your health problems on the Health and wellness forum because a Doctor or two participate and may have more suggestions.
 
I take Prilosec twice a day, every day. I still have really bad GERD even when I don't eat. I don't eat greasy foods. I am mostly on a soy/grain diet with some meat here and there. I am around 140 lbs. but I still feel icky. I can't see the surgeon anymore because he no longer does surgeries.

My body has been on an awkward sleep pattern so I sleep whenever and wake whenever. I have tried to wake or stay up when my mom goes to work so I can talk to her. Mostly, I just avoid her so I can give her space.

The odd sleeping patterns likely are not good for your physical or mental health.

You need to see a doctor and you need to put some real effort into this in order to be a full partner in achieving the best health status possible. Stop putting up roadblocks or just grinding to a halt when one is in front of you.

You are 23. I doubt if your mother even actually needs you around full time if you think you have to give her space.. I have to think she must be eager for you to become independent and secure and happy on your own. It is what parents want for their children.

By the way, still ask for a lab test for heliobacter pilori.

And I can guarantee you that while making friends is a good thing...if you have a physiologically based depression (even genetic in origin), they ain't gonna cure it. You say that your sleep is okay and then in another post, you talk about odd sleeping hours. I suspect that you aren't getting the type of rest you need.
Do you exercise...I mean...really exercise?

Seize the day.
 
Good luck finding a good doctor who takes Medicaid. ...

We don't know your State but I imagine there are medical referral services in your area. If not, the local hospital may be able to help you find a doctor; also, community health services.

I have friends on Medicaid and they have no trouble finding doctors, surgeons, etc.
 
So what I'm picking up here is that everything prevents you somehow from doing anything?

And why do you think you deserve to be taken care of? I don't think you've shared enough information for me to get a clear sense of why a 23 year old man requires someone to take care of him..
 
Actually I think that you are making yourself a victim to illness. As someone who has had a lot of serious and life threatening conditions, along with little things like hereditary GIRD and a hernia....all I can say is that the first thing that you have to do is recognize that it is only physics and chemistry....you can't let illness or disability define you and the terms of your life. It is the easy way out. Staying well and as healthy as possible is hard work. And you are the one who is going to have to do 100% of the heavy lifting here.

I suspect that today we are hearing your depression talking aloud. Which is good in many ways. You need to reach out and let others know that you want to get better and not wallow in misery.
 
Oh yay, my thread gets moved to where it'll die, and then I'm next.

Oh, and me running away has nothing to do with COMING OUT!!

It may have nothing to do with "coming out" but it seems to involve "relationships" - of which you profess none. Further, this sub-Forum protects you from flaming and ill commentary.

To my recollection this is the first time you have opened up and some cushioning is in order.

As well, your comments just now are defensive projections. I don't consider for a minute you will run away: someone afraid of his neighborhood is not running off into the unknown.

If anything you need to run toward your problems, one at a time if need be, and start positive re-enforcing behavior. To paraphrase rareboy, changing locale will gain you nothing, and may reward you with less.

(And COR&BST threads only die when the OP covers his soul and gives up; several have been open in excess of a year.)
 
I do think you are correct that you need a little higher quality medical care than you are getting. But beyond that, you need someone, maybe a psychologist or personal counselor, to talk out your feelings with and who can help you to find solutions to your emotional needs. You said in #18 that you need love. The lack of love may underlie a lot of those problems. But you will need counseling to sort it out.

You said in #22 "I can tackle my health but there is other things I can't control unless others put forth their effort too." Who should be putting forth their effort who is not doing that now? That kind of statement is what makes me think you will need an objective listener to talk with, if you are going to sort out your feelings here. An objective listener can call "bullshit" when you lapse into feeling helpless, sorry for yourself, and are blaming others.
 
Hey Dragononfire, I am sorry to hear of your problems man. I hate it when you tell people problems and they try make you feel even more shit ugggh

I Googled, 'how to exercise if you have hernia problems'--I found first link : What exercises can be done with a hernia?
Exercise is VERY important, not only for body, and helping you heal (keeps all your stuff and breath flowing) but also for mind and soul. So please check the link out and see if you could do what is suggested, and there are also other links too.
 
Okay, here's a story, not designed to make you feel like a failure but to show you that there is a light at the end of the tunnel that you can reach.

Several years ago now, a friend of mine developed a depilating back condition. He was basically crippled, could no longer work. He walks with the aid of a walking stick. He was - at the time - in his mid twenties. He was written off by every doctor he came across and was put on a disability pension and told - basically - that he was on the scrap heap.

No one would have blamed him if he'd taken the easy route and sat on his arse, watching daytime TV and counting down the rest of his life. He'd already been told he was never going to work again. Instead of sitting and waiting for the end of his life he got off his bum and turned a hobby into a career.

When you are told your life is over at an early age you have two choices. He chose to give everyone who wrote him off a big "F You". He had always loved to cook. So he started releasing cooking videos on YouTube. Within less than a year he'd told Centrelink (Australia's version of Social Services) they could jam their disability payments, had released his first cookbook and was the "go to" video channel in Australia that spawned dozens of imitators.

He found a home, and a community online through YouTube. Over the past several years he's released 6 cookbooks on various internet sites, been flown to LA by an American Online Cooking Channel to film an exclusive series of his show for their website. Last weekend he won an award at the Inaugural Australian Webstream Awards, and was also a presenter. He has flown around Australia for various YouTube gatherings and is constantly being approached by random companies to feature their products in his videos.

I tell you this story not to impress you, but to impress up on you that the only way we can make a change in our life is to commit to it. When I read the above posts, there always seemed to be a ready excuse as to why you couldn't make a change. Or someone else who needed to do something before you could.

When I was in my early 30's I got sick. I lost my voice. Not a big deal I guess. Except I worked in Call Centres. I mute phone operator doesn't work. I lost my job - and my voice for 6 months - I lost my savings, I lost my home, I moved back to my parents place. I spent six months barely able to talk above a whisper. No one would hire me.

Before I lost the house, I hit the floor. A friend turned up one day unannounced and banged on the front door till I let her in. By this point I was living in my garage. I was drinking from early morning till early morning when I'd pass out. I had a beautiful 3 bedroom home and I never left the garage. My friend dragged me to the Dr's one morning against my will. It was a day that was to change my life in my many ways.

But it wasn't my friend who dragged me out of the dark. It was me. When I came home from the Dr's that day I took a tablet and then forced myself to drag my lounge back into the front room. I opened the windows and pulled up the blinds. I did the laundry and the washing up. And I poured the wine down the sink.

It took a long time for me to start glimpsing the light at the end of the tunnel. Far too long. But every day I did something. I went to bed at a reasonable time. I got up early. I showered and shaved and cleaned my house. I put on my running shoes and I walked around the suburb for an hour a day.

When I moved home though I was defeated. I found it very easy to sit in my bedroom and hate. But still I went walking. Enjoyed the scent of salt water and cool air. I walked in sunshine and in rain. Eventually my voice returned. Eventually I found a job, one I'd never thought I'd do. I found a job that required multiple degrees - I had none - and I used my charm and my lack of fear to talk the HR Manager into hiring me. That job was to consume my life for nearly 7 years.

When you have depression you need to try and move. Not away. But move. If your house is shining and smells minty fresh, get outside. Go for a walk. Remember the good. I know that is easier said than done sometimes, but you have to try. Because, until you do, until you become the person you turn to for care and love no one else can do it for you.

I note in your response above that you reference "those who caused your depression" as the only ones who can help you to heal. I'm going to call a big "no" on that Dragon. Those who have lied about you, or hurt you, they'll never be the ones to help you. I had to learn that the hard way. The only person who can help you is you.

I lost a lot of people over the years, but never as many as I did when the depression really flared up. Some of the things said about me at the time haunted me for years. I really believe you need to seek some professional help for your depression. You're comment ".. and said not to talk to him until I was more appreciative of the good things in my life..." is quite telling.

One of the main issues with depression is the distortion of reality. Others can see what we are ignoring. What we can not. That distortion can drive people insane. When a person is constantly talking about what is wrong with their lives, it wears you down. Because the assumption is the person is just "whinging". It's not about your perception but theirs. They can see what you're doing, what you could be doing, but without you seeing it, it's irrelevant. They think you're ignoring it, concentrating on the negative to the exclusion of all else. What they don't understand is, frankly, you can't see it.

It's not his fault at all. You're both just looking at the same coin from different sides. I never recommend people go to get medication for depression, it's that persons own decision but between this post and others, I am going to say that you find a new doctor and you get something to help you. You need to balance your brain a bit mate. When everything is out of kilter, it makes life impossible.

Take from this what you will, disregard the rest. The choice lies with you, just as it did with me that April morning when I stood in the kitchen with a packet of anti-depressants, in a kitchen surrounded by mess and plates unwashed for days, ashtrays overflowing and empty wine bottles all over the floor. I chose to risk it, and see if life could be different. It's the choice I'd make for you, but only you can make it for yourself.
 
Okay, here's a story, not designed to make you feel like a failure but to show you that there is a light at the end of the tunnel that you can reach.

Several years ago now, a friend of mine developed a depilating back condition. He was basically crippled, could no longer work. He walks with the aid of a walking stick. He was - at the time - in his mid twenties. He was written off by every doctor he came across and was put on a disability pension and told - basically - that he was on the scrap heap.

No one would have blamed him if he'd taken the easy route and sat on his arse, watching daytime TV and counting down the rest of his life. He'd already been told he was never going to work again. Instead of sitting and waiting for the end of his life he got off his bum and turned a hobby into a career.

When you are told your life is over at an early age you have two choices. He chose to give everyone who wrote him off a big "F You". He had always loved to cook. So he started releasing cooking videos on YouTube. Within less than a year he'd told Centrelink (Australia's version of Social Services) they could jam their disability payments, had released his first cookbook and was the "go to" video channel in Australia that spawned dozens of imitators.

He found a home, and a community online through YouTube. Over the past several years he's released 6 cookbooks on various internet sites, been flown to LA by an American Online Cooking Channel to film an exclusive series of his show for their website. Last weekend he won an award at the Inaugural Australian Webstream Awards, and was also a presenter. He has flown around Australia for various YouTube gatherings and is constantly being approached by random companies to feature their products in his videos.

I tell you this story not to impress you, but to impress up on you that the only way we can make a change in our life is to commit to it. When I read the above posts, there always seemed to be a ready excuse as to why you couldn't make a change. Or someone else who needed to do something before you could.

When I was in my early 30's I got sick. I lost my voice. Not a big deal I guess. Except I worked in Call Centres. I mute phone operator doesn't work. I lost my job - and my voice for 6 months - I lost my savings, I lost my home, I moved back to my parents place. I spent six months barely able to talk above a whisper. No one would hire me.

Before I lost the house, I hit the floor. A friend turned up one day unannounced and banged on the front door till I let her in. By this point I was living in my garage. I was drinking from early morning till early morning when I'd pass out. I had a beautiful 3 bedroom home and I never left the garage. My friend dragged me to the Dr's one morning against my will. It was a day that was to change my life in my many ways.

But it wasn't my friend who dragged me out of the dark. It was me. When I came home from the Dr's that day I took a tablet and then forced myself to drag my lounge back into the front room. I opened the windows and pulled up the blinds. I did the laundry and the washing up. And I poured the wine down the sink.

It took a long time for me to start glimpsing the light at the end of the tunnel. Far too long. But every day I did something. I went to bed at a reasonable time. I got up early. I showered and shaved and cleaned my house. I put on my running shoes and I walked around the suburb for an hour a day.

When I moved home though I was defeated. I found it very easy to sit in my bedroom and hate. But still I went walking. Enjoyed the scent of salt water and cool air. I walked in sunshine and in rain. Eventually my voice returned. Eventually I found a job, one I'd never thought I'd do. I found a job that required multiple degrees - I had none - and I used my charm and my lack of fear to talk the HR Manager into hiring me. That job was to consume my life for nearly 7 years.

When you have depression you need to try and move. Not away. But move. If your house is shining and smells minty fresh, get outside. Go for a walk. Remember the good. I know that is easier said than done sometimes, but you have to try. Because, until you do, until you become the person you turn to for care and love no one else can do it for you.

I note in your response above that you reference "those who caused your depression" as the only ones who can help you to heal. I'm going to call a big "no" on that Dragon. Those who have lied about you, or hurt you, they'll never be the ones to help you. I had to learn that the hard way. The only person who can help you is you.

I lost a lot of people over the years, but never as many as I did when the depression really flared up. Some of the things said about me at the time haunted me for years. I really believe you need to seek some professional help for your depression. You're comment ".. and said not to talk to him until I was more appreciative of the good things in my life..." is quite telling.

One of the main issues with depression is the distortion of reality. Others can see what we are ignoring. What we can not. That distortion can drive people insane. When a person is constantly talking about what is wrong with their lives, it wears you down. Because the assumption is the person is just "whinging". It's not about your perception but theirs. They can see what you're doing, what you could be doing, but without you seeing it, it's irrelevant. They think you're ignoring it, concentrating on the negative to the exclusion of all else. What they don't understand is, frankly, you can't see it.

It's not his fault at all. You're both just looking at the same coin from different sides. I never recommend people go to get medication for depression, it's that persons own decision but between this post and others, I am going to say that you find a new doctor and you get something to help you. You need to balance your brain a bit mate. When everything is out of kilter, it makes life impossible.

Take from this what you will, disregard the rest. The choice lies with you, just as it did with me that April morning when I stood in the kitchen with a packet of anti-depressants, in a kitchen surrounded by mess and plates unwashed for days, ashtrays overflowing and empty wine bottles all over the floor. I chose to risk it, and see if life could be different. It's the choice I'd make for you, but only you can make it for yourself.

Well said.
 
Okay, here's a story, not designed to make you feel like a failure but to show you that there is a light at the end of the tunnel that you can reach.

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Take from this what you will, disregard the rest. The choice lies with you, just as it did with me that April morning when I stood in the kitchen with a packet of anti-depressants, in a kitchen surrounded by mess and plates unwashed for days, ashtrays overflowing and empty wine bottles all over the floor. I chose to risk it, and see if life could be different. It's the choice I'd make for you, but only you can make it for yourself.

Ravenstar, I sincerely hope the OP returns to this thread and reads your moving testimony. My situation has never been as dark as yours, but I have certainly glimpsed it.

I thank you for the personal background and hope the OP recognizes the value in it.
 
I know you mean well ravenstar, and I cannot talk really for how OP would respond to your post, but for me i HATE the 'success stories' trip--with a vengeance. This whole sorry-arsed culture--if you aint noticed--is full of this 'winners versus losers' crap, and what this does is cause extreme stress for lots of people. There can only BE one 'winner' and the rest of us areeeee---yes 'losers'. This is the whole idea and conditioning behind so-called 'reality' shows where you have all these people all wannabe 'winners' but the reality is there only gonna be ONE winner. This is actually conditioning us to accept this 'reality' but as said it is toxic and causes really many people to feel all manner of distresses both physical and psychological. Because many feel they are worthless unless seen to be in others and their own eyes a 'winner', but like said it is IMPOSSIBLE and so is a major contradiction!
 
That statement is about people who need to help me move on to the next phase of my life, ones who have caused my depression and need to come at a common ground with me so I can heal. I am tired of people leaving me in the dark, or blaming me for things that are not my fault, causing me more misery, or misunderstanding/misinterpreting me, like this one person who I was getting along with for a bit until he misunderstood me and then called me "ungrateful" and said not to talk to him until I was more appreciative of the good things in my life. Like I am not appreciative of anything? He has no clue on what I am happy about and what I am sad about. It's his fault for misinterpreting my words and making me look like an ass, and yet he won't apologize or talk to me now.



I will look into that. I am worried though, as the last time I bent over, vomit came up without warning.

I'm sorry, but I have to call you on this post. You are simply blaming others for your depression and hiding behind your health problems. From what I am picking up from your responses, you appear to be the one who doesn't want to meet anyone halfway. And here's the thing. Most people are emotionally healthy enough not to let themselves get dragged down to the lowest level.

If you are as defensive and resistant to taking responsibility for yourself as you appear to be from your written responses in this thread, frankly it is no wonder that you lost your friend. The most telling thing is when you say your friend had no idea what you are appreciative or happy about.....I suspect that he never knew because all you were using your friend for was as a mannequin to voice your troubles and complaints to. I don't think he misunderstood you at all. He just got tired of your resistance and negativity.

I really hope that you carefully consider the honest and frank advice that you are getting in this thread and that you put some effort into making some changes that will improve your life. As I noted, I have overcome GIRD and the post-surgical problems with hernia repair. And I had to work at it to make it happen.

One change that I believe you should make right away is to use your time more productively in order to give your life some purpose and direction. In addition to the exercise that has been suggested, you should get going on taking some distance learning college courses or getting out there and looking for a job. And if you can't find a job, then look for an organization to volunteer with.

You can do this.
 
Ravenstar, I sincerely hope the OP returns to this thread and reads your moving testimony.

I hope so too, but he hasn't posted here since the 23rd, although he has posted twelve or thirteen posts today on other forums. Maybe the advice here, especially the "heal thyself" ones, were too hard to take.
 
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