Spoiler Alert! Infinity War: spoiler discussion. Don't come in if you haven't seen.

[Dominus]

If you think about it, Thanos is not a bad guy in the conventional sense. He is as selfless as one can be. He has a single goal, to save life in the universe.

What makes him a super villain is people generally don't agree with his methods.

Apocalypse is somewhat more or less the same way. He's not really a bad guy. He wants to push human evolution to a point where humans will rival the celestial, aka the gods. It's just that we don't necessarily agree with how he would wipe out whole civilizations to separate the weak (those who die) from the strong (those who survive).

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Murdering people because you decided what's best for the entire universe is noble? Might be time for some ink blot tests this post is very disturbing.

 

[luckynumbah7]

I take it this super villain missed the memo that hardship of the destroy-civilization type is not a test of strength, intelligence or adaptability. The survivors are survivors via luck - without that luck, the aforementioned three attributes are utterly useless.

 

[mcbrion]

If you think about it, Thanos is not a bad guy in the conventional sense. He is as selfless as one can be. He has a single goal, to save life in the universe.

What makes him a super villain is people generally don't agree with his methods.

Apocalypse is somewhat more or less the same way. He's not really a bad guy. He wants to push human evolution to a point where humans will rival the celestial, aka the gods. It's just that we don't necessarily agree with how he would wipe out whole civilizations to separate the weak (those who die) from the strong (those who survive).

Sorry, you're not even close. Thanos is as evil as they come. You must not be very familiar with his history. I've been reading Marvel since 1964 and Thanos (the greek derivation of death [Thanatos]) murdered his father, his mother and several other family members.

You are completely off the mark. And I haven't even seen the movie. I've just read all the comics, including Thanos' own series in Marvel. He's not a man, first of all. Completely alien to humanity. Whatever they made him in the movies sound like crap that Marvel wrote in the screenplay, so he could appear sympathetic to the unfamiliar humans (aka "moviegoers) who haven't a damn CLUE to the things he's done, including wiping out - literally - half the Universe (in the first series - The Infinity Gauntlet) - because he is courting (aka, seeking the "love" of) "Mistress" Death (where do they get these titles for entities) - who always appears as a woman in the Marvel Universe, never mind that death in all other cultures is a male (mysoginistic, but that's the world of men). I guess they are unconsciously homophobic to have a character that courts the manifestation of Death in the traditional male form (lets face it: it would alienate half the viewing public).

Marvel just reissued - last week - The Infinity Gauntlet, which preceded The Infinity War in the comics by two years ( "Gauntlet" arriving in the comic book world circa 1990 or so, although memory fails me, it's been so long), and Thanos is, once againl, courting "Mistress Death." OY!!! Only, he supposedly tricks even Mistress Death into helping him acquire the Infinity Gems - which then makes him the superior of Mistress Death - which angers "her." ("Hell hath no fury" and all that...)
I see it's the biggest box office movie of all time (except it's not. Adjusted for inflation, one Star Wars movie surpasses it).

Selfless?? Is this your interpretation or has Marvel lost their minds? Anyone who knows anything about Thanos would laugh themselves silly. He has always courted ultimate power, the power to destroy. He cares NOTHING about the "evolution" of anyone. They must have twisted themselves into Silly Putty to put across such a ridiculous contrivance. I'll be seeing it, but I already know how it ended in the comic books (he loses, of course, of else there wouldn't be a Universe for Marvel to write any more comics), but I'll suspend my derision of Marvel's constant rewriting of their characters - and the powers of their characters (the Scarlet Witch is a particularly sore point with me: she was never telepathic or telekinetic. Not even close, as I've written many times on other sites as Marvel re-invents the powers of their characters).
But apparently, the non-cognoscenti will be unaware of this. Not your fault. But not even close to the truth. That's like believing Satan is not "the bad guy." Guess that makes God "the Unforgiving Father." Double OY!

 

[luckynumbah7]

Wait, I want to say I recognize mistress death. Thanos the character I'm not really too familiar with, but mistress death is ringing faint bells. Either from Deadpool or The Doom Patrol. Def not Spider-Man tho, wasn't that kind've storyline.

- Yep, Deadpool.

 

[luckynumbah7]

That's a rather weird take on the movie as well, considering said villain was certainly not out to better mankind in the storylines I remember.

They really strayed from comic depictions if that was your judgement on motive. Thanos is gen'rally depicted as an utter and completely vindictive bastard, or was with the little I know of him.

- Tho speaking of alienating half the viewing public and comic adaptations, there'd better be some acknowledgement between Cable & Deadpool in the upcoming film. If they're going to silver-screen such a character they'd better at least make a nod to comic accuracy instead of keeping alternatives solely for a laugh.

 

[mcbrion]

I expected Thanos to resemble THANOS. Instead, he talks and moves like any earth-born villain. And looks absurdly human - like the Hulk, but with purple skin. It's astounding reading the reviews from people who've seen it. I found it pedestrian, and even the critics' liked it, but it appeals to those with A), no knowledge of the comic books or B), no knowledge of Thanos or C), they just like lots of action sequences. I could barely get past how completely dumb he sounds in one scene with Gamora: "I never taught you to lie..." What?!? THIS IS THANOS? Not EVEN. Made for children of a certain age.

And the film itself is just mediocre, no matter WHO likes it. It reminds me of some lyrics in Kim Wayans' (In Living Color) parody of Crystal Waters' 1991 song, Gypsy Woman, She's Homeless: "You'll keep buying my music/because you're mindless/like me, you're mindless. Lobotomy me, Lobotomy-you..."

And Thanos does not even resemble the character in the Avengers movie in which he was introduced. He IS, after all, many thousands of years old, yet he sounds like he was born in 1988. Should go over great with Millennials and the following generation (and it has! Best opening weekend of all time), but good? It's just not. If this is the best Disney can do, it's pretty pitiful. I will, however, be in the minority, as I still have my mind.

Knock yourselves out.

 

[Dominus]

Sorry, you're not even close. Thanos is as evil as they come. You must not be very familiar with his history. I've been reading Marvel since 1964 and Thanos (the greek derivation of death [Thanatos]) murdered his father, his mother and several other family members.

You are completely off the mark. And I haven't even seen the movie. I've just read all the comics, including Thanos' own series in Marvel. He's not a man, first of all. Completely alien to humanity. Whatever they made him in the movies sound like crap that Marvel wrote in the screenplay, so he could appear sympathetic to the unfamiliar humans (aka "moviegoers) who haven't a damn CLUE to the things he's done, including wiping out - literally - half the Universe (in the first series - The Infinity Gauntlet) - because he is courting (aka, seeking the "love" of) "Mistress" Death (where do they get these titles for entities) - who always appears as a woman in the Marvel Universe, never mind that death in all other cultures is a male (mysoginistic, but that's the world of men). I guess they are unconsciously homophobic to have a character that courts the manifestation of Death in the traditional male form (lets face it: it would alienate half the viewing public).

Marvel just reissued - last week - The Infinity Gauntlet, which preceded The Infinity War in the comics by two years ( "Gauntlet" arriving in the comic book world circa 1990 or so, although memory fails me, it's been so long), and Thanos is, once againl, courting "Mistress Death." OY!!! Only, he supposedly tricks even Mistress Death into helping him acquire the Infinity Gems - which then makes him the superior of Mistress Death - which angers "her." ("Hell hath no fury" and all that...)
I see it's the biggest box office movie of all time (except it's not. Adjusted for inflation, one Star Wars movie surpasses it).

Selfless?? Is this your interpretation or has Marvel lost their minds? Anyone who knows anything about Thanos would laugh themselves silly. He has always courted ultimate power, the power to destroy. He cares NOTHING about the "evolution" of anyone. They must have twisted themselves into Silly Putty to put across such a ridiculous contrivance. I'll be seeing it, but I already know how it ended in the comic books (he loses, of course, of else there wouldn't be a Universe for Marvel to write any more comics), but I'll suspend my derision of Marvel's constant rewriting of their characters - and the powers of their characters (the Scarlet Witch is a particularly sore point with me: she was never telepathic or telekinetic. Not even close, as I've written many times on other sites as Marvel re-invents the powers of their characters).
But apparently, the non-cognoscenti will be unaware of this. Not your fault. But not even close to the truth. That's like believing Satan is not "the bad guy." Guess that makes God "the Unforgiving Father." Double OY!

I know what you're talking about. I've been reading the comics for years as well. Go see the movie. The Thanos in the movie is nothing like the comics. In the movie, Thanos is on the quest to save the Universe. It is implied that every planet eventually faces environmental disaster due to overpopulation. As it did to his homeworld Titan. His solution is kill half the population by random selection.

Just go see the movie and you will see what I mean.

 

[mcbrion]

I know what you're talking about. I've been reading the comics for years as well. Go see the movie. The Thanos in the movie is nothing like the comics. In the movie, Thanos is on the quest to save the Universe. It is implied that every planet eventually faces environmental disaster due to overpopulation. As it did to his homeworld Titan. His solution is kill half the population by random selection.

Just go see the movie and you will see what I mean.

I saw it. Thanos seemed like a strange version of the Dalai Lama, part good and part evil. But that's NOT THANOS!

 

[mikemizanin729]

I didn't watch it, but I still came in.

 

[Dominus]

I saw it. Thanos seemed like a strange version of the Dalai Lama, part good and part evil. But that's NOT THANOS!

Haha, ya. The movie version of Thanos is nothing like the comic book version of this character. The movie version honest to goodness believes he is doing good and that he is saving the universe. Twisted his methods may be.

 

[mcbrion]

Haha, ya. The movie version of Thanos is nothing like the comic book version of this character. The movie version honest to goodness believes he is doing good and that he is saving the universe. Twisted his methods may be.

Which makes a complete and total lie to whom Marvel has declared Thanos to be: an unabashed murderer who will kill absolutely anyone (he killed his mother first and she actually Loved him). Then millions more. If he did this once, one could argue he has a "good side." But he's destroyed civilizations for centuries, long before the Universe had "too many people." Isn't he around 10,000 years old or more? When did he start killing? Before he was 15. So, that alone puts the movie in a place about as truthful as Trump.

 

[Dominus]

Which makes a complete and total lie to whom Marvel has declared Thanos to be: an unabashed murderer who will kill absolutely anyone (he killed his mother first and she actually Loved him). Then millions more. If he did this once, one could argue he has a "good side." But he's destroyed civilizations for centuries, long before the Universe had "too many people." Isn't he around 10,000 years old or more? When did he start killing? Before he was 15. So, that alone puts the movie in a place about as truthful as Trump.

I've found that movie versions of villains are more 3 dimensional than comic book versions. Remember that comic book villains were created to be caricatures of what people back then thought of what villains were like. Just bad guys out to do bad things. In the case of villains like Thanos, the movie would be awfully boring if he's just another bad guy out to do bad things. I'm glad the scriptwriters actually have him a purpose to why he does what he does. More 3 dimensional.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

I expected Thanos to resemble THANOS. Instead, he talks and moves like any earth-born villain. And looks absurdly human - like the Hulk, but with purple skin. It's astounding reading the reviews from people who've seen it. I found it pedestrian, and even the critics' liked it, but it appeals to those with A), no knowledge of the comic books or B), no knowledge of Thanos or C), they just like lots of action sequences. I could barely get past how completely dumb he sounds in one scene with Gamora: "I never taught you to lie..." What?!? THIS IS THANOS? Not EVEN. Made for children of a certain age.

And the film itself is just mediocre, no matter WHO likes it. It reminds me of some lyrics in Kim Wayans' (In Living Color) parody of Crystal Waters' 1991 song, Gypsy Woman, She's Homeless: "You'll keep buying my music/because you're mindless/like me, you're mindless. Lobotomy me, Lobotomy-you..."

And Thanos does not even resemble the character in the Avengers movie in which he was introduced. He IS, after all, many thousands of years old, yet he sounds like he was born in 1988. Should go over great with Millennials and the following generation (and it has! Best opening weekend of all time), but good? It's just not. If this is the best Disney can do, it's pretty pitiful. I will, however, be in the minority, as I still have my mind.

Knock yourselves out.

Or maybe people are familiar with the comics and actually enjoyed a different take? That they don’t expect the movie to be a perfect adaptation?

Honestly you sound like a Grade A snob about a fictional universe.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Let me add that I don’t really care whether or not someone likes a movie or not. That’s all well and fine, but the condescending attitude here fucking reeks. Like Holy shit.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

As for how I felt about the movie, fantastic. A lot of great lines and banter between all the heroes and the like. A lot of emotional scenes and just overall a roller coaster.

Thanos was definitely evil, but he wasn’t your typical ego ridden villain who was doing something for the sake of taking over. He was on a mission, that he believed was right and just to achieve his end goal. I mean one can’t argue that wiping out half the universe for the “good” of it is not evil, ends dont justify the means and all that. He did a lot of horrible things to get to where he wanted to go. I mean as much as he actually loved her, killed his daughter(which was a great scene) just to get another stone to complete his mission. With all the super powers and gods in the universe, clearly there have to be better ways to save the universe as a whole.

In no way was Thanos actually good in any sense of the word, he just believes he is and what he is doing is good.

 

[mcbrion]

Or maybe people are familiar with the comics and actually enjoyed a different take? That they don’t expect the movie to be a perfect adaptation?

Honestly you sound like a Grade A snob about a fictional universe.

A "perfect adaptation". Interesting If they took Darth Vader and turned him into "the good guy," you'd buy that? I suspect you are unfamiliar with Thanos. There's little point using the "different point of view argument here, for the same reasons offered above.
No, I'm one of the people whose kept Marvel in business since 1963. I have noticed, of late, their tendency to turn the nihilistic into saviors, such as Ultron. I expected to see something that would seem realistic, true to the character.
As for it being a fictional Universe, ALL fiction derives from a "fictional Universe", doesn't it? I don't expect people with no knowledge of a subject to feel anything other than 'I liked it.' How could they feel otherwise with a complete lack of knowledge. Next thing you know, a movie will be made of Hitler, claiming he was a 'misunderstood soul.' I wonder how the Jews will feel about THAT. But if wanting accuracy instead of revisionist makes a a snob, then join those who rewrite history. Perhaps you'd be interested in the Holocaust-Was-A-Hoax Club?? I mean, it seems a good fit.

 

[mcbrion]

Or maybe people are familiar with the comics and actually enjoyed a different take? That they don’t expect the movie to be a perfect adaptation?

Honestly you sound like a Grade A snob about a fictional universe.

A "perfect adaptation". Interesting If they took Darth Vader and turned him into "the good guy," you'd buy that? I suspect you are unfamiliar with Thanos. There's little point using the "different point of view argument here, for the same reasons offered above.
No, I'm one of the people whose kept Marvel in business since 1963. I have noticed, of late, their tendency to turn the nihilistic into saviors, such as Ultron. I expected to see something that would seem realistic, true to the character.
As for it being a fictional Universe, ALL fiction derives from a "fictional Universe", doesn't it? I don't expect people with no knowledge of a subject to feel anything other than 'I liked it.' How could they feel otherwise with a complete lack of knowledge. Next thing you know, a movie will be made of Hitler, claiming he was a 'misunderstood soul.' I wonder how the Jews will feel about THAT. But if wanting accuracy instead of revisionist makes a a snob, then join those who rewrite history. Perhaps you'd be interested in the Holocaust-Was-A-Hoax Club?? I mean, it seems a good fit.

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Sorry, my former poster ran out of Life ...I mean time, for the corrections. Here 'tis, in all its fictional glory.

Or maybe people are familiar with the comics and actually enjoyed a different take? That they don’t expect the movie to be a perfect adaptation?

Honestly you sound like a Grade A snob about a fictional universe.

A "perfect adaptation". Interesting If they took Darth Vader and turned him into "the good guy," you'd buy that? I suspect you are unfamiliar with Thanos. There's little point using the "different take" argument here, for the same reasons offered above. It's one thing to expose a hidden side of someone, something different to take Geoffrey Dammer or Ted Bundy and turn them into "good guys." But if you care to think me a snob, go right ahead.

Snob? No, I'm one of the people whose kept Marvel in business since 1963. I have noticed, of late, their tendency to turn the nihilistic Destroyers of Life into SAVIOURS OF THE UNIVERSE, such as they did in Avengers: Ultron. I merely point out - accurately, by the way - that this is complexly UNtrue to the character of Thanos. You are - and it is your right - from the school of "let's pretend the wolf-in-sheep's clothing ISN'T" and maintaining it's a fair way to portray someone. Like Harper Lee's manuscript, changing Atticus Finch from a noble person into a stone-cold racist. It seemed to bother only those of us over 40 (in my case, the those-over-65 club), who'd read it in school (which I suspect you did not), and were dumbfounded by the second book. Messes with our sense of morality. Well, as much as it is your right to remain oblivious, so 'tis mine to not have history re-written. In real life or in fictional life. An about turn on the Truth does seem to bother some of us, it is clear, even in a fictional Universe. The movie - to me - would have been more fun watching Thanos being the truly evil megalomaniac he is. Now, THAT would have been a movie worth watching! This? Pablum for the lets-see-lots-of-fisticuffs set. (Nobody could survive ONE punch from Thanos, much less 8 or 10, as he had to do to demolish Iron Man. It's like expecting the moon to hit the Earth, and the Earth remains in one piece.)

As for it being a fictional Universe, ALL fiction derives from a "fictional Universe", doesn't it? I don't expect people with no knowledge of a subject to feel anything other than 'I liked it.' How could they feel otherwise with a complete lack of knowledge? Next thing you know, a movie will be made of Hitler, claiming he was a 'misunderstood soul.' I wonder how the Jews will feel about THAT. But if wanting accuracy instead of revisionist makes a a snob, then perhaps you'd be interested in joining those who rewrite history. Perhaps you'd be interested in the Holocaust-Was-A-Hoax Club?? I mean, it seems a good fit.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Wow you are one codescneding douche.

 

[mcbrion]

Ah, I got it.

You like to dish it out, but you can't take it, right? Thin-skinned. Melancholic. Okay, I got the picture. Sorry to ruin your day.