Intentionally spreads HIV and blames victim in court room

[Vitamin]

Do you really not understand the difference between acknowledging that your actions have an affect on your health and someone saying 'let 'em die?.

Not in this context, no. But perhaps we have different healthcare strategies. Deal with it, bitch.

 

[Vitamin]

Not in this context, no. But perhaps we have different healthcare strategies. Deal with it, bitch.

Upon a more careful reading of Lucky's statement, I think I'm actually quite confused as to where he got the impression that I said people here were saying "let 'em die" in regards to the victim.

 

[Soilwork]

I mean, really; we get it already. Wrap it. But what benefit could possibly be gained from blaming the victim in a criminal case like this? What exactly is the fucking point?

FUCKING SHIT HELL GOD DAMMIT NO BODY IS BLAMING THE VICTIM ARE YOU FUCKING ILLITERATE?

Jesus fucking Christ. Ugh... this is why I left JUB to being with.

What we're saying is "THIS JUST SHOWS THAT YOUR HEALTH IS YOUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY, DO NOT TAKE THE WORD OF ANYONE ELSE BEFORE HAVING BAREBACK SEX WITH THEM BECAUSE IT IS YOU WHO HAS TO DEAL WITH ANY CONSEQUENCES."


sorry for yelling but you deserve it.

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Read. The. Fucking. Article.

then

Read. My. Fucking. Posts.

else

Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

did your mother drop you on your head as a baby?

 

[Willie Boy]

FUCKING SHIT HELL GOD DAMMIT NO BODY IS BLAMING THE VICTIM ARE YOU FUCKING ILLITERATE?

Jesus fucking Christ. Ugh... this is why I left JUB to being with.

What we're saying is "THIS JUST SHOWS THAT YOUR HEALTH IS YOUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY, DO NOT TAKE THE WORD OF ANYONE ELSE BEFORE HAVING BAREBACK SEX WITH THEM BECAUSE IT IS YOU WHO HAS TO DEAL WITH ANY CONSEQUENCES."


sorry for yelling but you deserve it.

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did your mother drop you on your head as a baby?

You do realize he's not the complete bieber he's pretending to be. He's just a troll and we've been feeding him.

 

[Vitamin]

FUCKING SHIT HELL GOD DAMMIT NO BODY IS BLAMING THE VICTIM ARE YOU FUCKING ILLITERATE?

Jesus fucking Christ. Ugh... this is why I left JUB to being with.

What we're saying is "THIS JUST SHOWS THAT YOUR HEALTH IS YOUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY, DO NOT TAKE THE WORD OF ANYONE ELSE BEFORE HAVING BAREBACK SEX WITH THEM BECAUSE IT IS YOU WHO HAS TO DEAL WITH ANY CONSEQUENCES."


sorry for yelling but you deserve it.

Oh look. Someone else on JUB can't ever possibly even try to see things from another perspective. I won't cry if you leave, btw.

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did your mother drop you on your head as a baby?

Do you have any experience with computer programming? I was thinking maybe Lucky was a bot in need of new code...

 

[Vitamin]

You do realize he's not the complete bieber he's pretending to be. He's just a troll and we've been feeding him.

You like to blame others for the qualities that you possess, huh? Gets the attention off of you. We know this.

 

[Soilwork]

You do realize he's not the complete bieber he's pretending to be. He's just a troll and we've been feeding him.

I think I'm starting to realize that.

Sorry, I've been shooting a movie all day and while it went great... it was a very long day and a LOT of work to get a scene out of it.

I'll have a martini. I'll be fine.

 

[Soilwork]

Oh look. Someone else on JUB can't ever possibly even try to see things from another perspective.

You don't have a "perspective." You're just posting things to enflame people. Which... I mean, everyone needs a hobby, I guess.

 

[Willie Boy]

I think I'm starting to realize that.

Sorry, I've been shooting a movie all day and while it went great... it was a very long day and a LOT of work to get a scene out of it.

I'll have a martini. I'll be fine.

Pop into the hot tub and start the jets..... Let the relaxing flow wash your cares away. Just don't fall asleep in there or you'll look like a prune in the morning. Date tonight, prune tomorrow!

 

[Vitamin]

You don't have a "perspective." You're just posting things to enflame people. Which... I mean, everyone needs a hobby, I guess.

Uhhh, perhaps you haven't stumbled upon this thread yet.

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/thr...e-(ie-me)-asked-to-use-a-condom-even-for-oral

And as any moron should be able to tell from the title of the thread it's about the CONTEXT of which I was arguing from, which you, and many others repeatedly dismissed and ignored.

The thread lucky gave is about a California man who was intentionally spreading HIV to others while lying about his status. For this, he was given a whopping SIX MONTHS in prison, the maximum amount allowed under California law. The (presumably) heterosexual judge said she wished she could have given more time for his crime, but she is only limited by what the state legislature allows her to do.

Now any pro-gay fool should have walked into that thread like, "WTF? Six months?", and indeed that was what the thread was originally about(aside from one poster, MouthofKaos, I think, who at least had the balls to admit he didn't actually read the article). It wasn't until Soilwork came in, and started slut-shaming the victim that somehow drew out TONS of echos about how right he was to blame the victim. Then JayQueer made some weird comparison to rape, and shit really started going downhill after that. That's when I walked in.

Honestly, I probably should've have left well enough alone, but I couldn't help it. Not all of the people in that thread were the usual suspects of self-hate. A lot of them were actually people that I had tremendous amount of respect for.

Look, these rationalizations were just preposterously unhelpful. They were all like, "Oh, well, I don't support what this guy did BUT..." followed by paragraphs of slut shaming. It literally made no fucking sense in CONTEXT of what the thread was about.

I mean, it would be like if I said this in a gay marriage discussion thread: "I support gay marriage, BUT if you think about it guys, being equal means being exactly same thing. 1=1 not 1=1.1 or 0.9. Therefore two men, or two women who get married can never possibly be equal to a heterosexual couple because they don't have the exact same body parts."

Seriously, how is this fucking helpful AT ALL???

I'm going to have to just assume half of JUB never read that article, otherwise I'm going to go batshit crazy losing respect for so many people here.

 

[luckynumbah7]

You do realize he's not the complete bieber he's pretending to be. He's just a troll and we've been feeding him.

That would explain a lot, but m'still a bit dubious. His posts seem more like general willful ignorance coupled with deliberately inflammatory suggestions on facts that don't actually exist in the hopes of wearing someone, nay, anyone down so he can finally achieve the "I agree!" He's been waiting for.

As opposed to the 'I'm here just to piss people off " Troll behavior. There's half a distinction there. I mean, I could be wrong but at the moment I'm leaning towards general human stupidity

 

[G-Lexington]

And basically, Lex's whole post here. Oh, and you think people weren't saying the victim deserved what he got? Are actually reading this thread? They're obviously at a minimum implying it.

Read. My. Fucking. Posts.

then

Read. Them. Fucking. Again.

Because if I'm blaming the victim, I'm also blaming myself for getting hit by the car.

Lex

 

[Soilwork]

As opposed to the 'I'm here just to piss people off " Troll behavior. There's half a distinction there. I mean, I could be wrong but at the moment I'm leaning towards general human stupidity

True. it's not like he's JayQueer.

 

[Vitamin]

True. it's not like he's JayQueer.

And we're officially done. If you refuse to consider a different perspective, that I posted for you plain as day, then I have no point in even talking to you. Don't expect me to shed a tear if you decide to leave. Duces.

 

[Willie Boy]

That would explain a lot, but m'still a bit dubious. His posts seem more like general willful ignorance coupled with deliberately inflammatory suggestions on facts that don't actually exist in the hopes of wearing someone, nay, anyone down so he can finally achieve the "I agree!" He's been waiting for.

As opposed to the 'I'm here just to piss people off " Troll behavior. There's half a distinction there. I mean, I could be wrong but at the moment I'm leaning towards general human stupidity

I was there at the beginning when I tried, time and again, to explain things to him...... It isn't that he's stupid, well OK he is, but that he just wants to argue his stupidity with any, and every, one. He grabs at something that isn't even part of the thread and just has to keep arguing it like its some pearl of wisdom. He wont bother to stop and realize he's merely waving a clump of his own shit in the air.

That is why I wont bother to respond to him anymore.

 

[Soilwork]

And we're officially done. If you refuse to

Oh honey... that was already decided. By me. A while ago.

 

[Vitamin]

Well, one thing I can take from this thread: never bother arguing with two trolls and a reactionary social conservative(by gay standards). At least G-Lexington was capable of actually trying to understand my perspective. I don't know if we actually wound up agreeing or not, but I appreciate thoughtful conversation where ever it can be found regardless.

 

[Willie Boy]

Oh honey... that was already decided. By me. A while ago.

he realizes he's been found out and now he's packing up shop. All I can say is good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

Stupidity like this is making me wonder why I bothered to come back.

 

[Kabluey]

Well, the guy went out with a clear intention to deceive and debilitate/injure people.
He deserves to be punished in full for knowingly doing this.

The deception is part of the crime.
People still get charged with fraud, even when their victims were willingly mislead and used insufficient protections.