Op-Ed Iran .... another Red Line in 6 Months

[Kulindahr]

The problem is that by applying the sanctions gradually we gave them too much time. Now we are relaxing them. Do you seriously believe Iran has slowed it's development of the bomb?

With the daily inspections allowed under the agreement, how can they do anything but slow down?

And meanwhile they're still under some of the strictest sanctions ever imposed on any country.

 

[Kulindahr]

Iran will also dilute its existing stockpile of 20% enriched uranium.

Not just dilute -- most of it they have to ruin by oxidizing. If I understand it right, once it's oxidized it has to be processed all over again to even be useful as fuel.

There's been some complaining that money (that's theirs anyway) has been released to them to the tune of $7 or $8 billion. But looking at all they're being required to do, it's about an even trade-off.

 

[Jack Springer]

^^^

Now you're a nuclear scientist too?

 

[Alnitak]

Not just dilute -- most of it they have to ruin by oxidizing. If I understand it right, once it's oxidized it has to be processed all over again to even be useful as fuel.

That's correct.

Compounding uranium differently screws with the rate of fission and absorption of neutrons.

 

[Rolyo85]

^^^

Now you're a nuclear scientist too?

Well why not? YOU seem to be a specialist in everything.

 

[Kulindahr]

^^^

Now you're a nuclear scientist too?

No. I just read the article.

 

[JayHawk]

No. I just read the article.

Now that would be an interesting poll to post here if we could do it scientifically by actually knowing who clicked the link on a posted source. The poll being, who actually reads what is posted prior to proffering their earnest final and unwavering opinions.

 

[kallipolis]

Now that would be an interesting poll to post here if we could do it scientifically by actually knowing who clicked the link on a posted source. The poll being, who actually reads what is posted prior to proffering their earnest final and unwavering opinions.

Clicking on a link is no guarantee that the article was read, or the contents understood...when well demonstrated prejudices often blind the reader to the content of an article.

 

[Kulindahr]

Clicking on a link is no guarantee that the article was read, or the contents understood...when well demonstrated prejudices often blind the reader to the content of an article.

As evidenced by the fact that a certain JUBber often posts links to articles that contradict his point....

 

[kallipolis]

As evidenced by the fact that a certain JUBber often posts links to articles that contradict his point....

As you have so admirably demonstrated to Jack...to no avail.

 

[Jack Springer]

As evidenced by the fact that a certain JUBber often posts links to articles that contradict his point....

The article is vague and implies that Iran will not become a nuclear power or have a nuclear bomb -- both of which are wrong.

 

[kallipolis]

The article is vague and implies that Iran will not become a nuclear power or have a nuclear bomb -- both of which are wrong.

Under the recently signed agreement with several Western nations, Iran has agreed not to develop nuclear weapons, and has agreed inspections of its nuclear energy sites by the signatory nations....what is it that the Western powers have overlooked, that prompts your bizarre assertion?

 

[Kulindahr]

The article is vague and implies that Iran will not become a nuclear power or have a nuclear bomb -- both of which are wrong.

It's about as vague as the Ten Commandments.

For the rest... I think your crystal ball needs a tune-up -- it's showing what you want to see, not what it is.

 

[Kulindahr]

Under the recently signed agreement with several Western nations, Iran has agreed not to develop nuclear weapons, and has agreed inspections of its nuclear energy sites by the signatory nations....what is it that the Western powers have overlooked, that prompts your bizarre assertion?

The agreements don't mean much, really, if it weren't for the fact that UN inspectors can now basically drop in on Iranian facilities as they please.

 

[kallipolis]

The agreements don't mean much, really, if it weren't for the fact that UN inspectors can now basically drop in on Iranian facilities as they please.

Elementary, dear Watson.

 

[Kulindahr]

Elementary, dear Watson.

That just makes me pissed at Bush all over again: Saddam offered the same thing, allowing inspectors to go where they wanted when they wanted with whatever security forces they felt like having, but it wasn't good enough for him. No, he had to have his war, no matter the harm to the Iraqi -- or the American -- people.

 

[Alnitak]

The deal is not a predication of trust at all. In fact that was a part of the deal with respect to inspection guarantees. My trust on Iran would place a 5% chance that Iran would keep the enrichment terms without inspections.

 

[Kulindahr]

The deal is not a predication of trust at all. In fact that was a part of the deal with respect to inspection guarantees. My trust on Iran would place a 5% chance that Iran would keep the enrichment terms without inspections.

I'll second that assessment. I'm not convinced they're complying totally even with the inspections -- just that they aren't going to be able to pull off a viable military nuke program; they could still manage bombs that could be carried in freight vans, though not rapidly at all.

I say be wary, but verify -- and keep our eyes open and sharp.

 

[Jack Springer]

The agreements don't mean much, really, if it weren't for the fact that UN inspectors can now basically drop in on Iranian facilities as they please.

How many times have they 'dropped in' since the agreement?

You'd be stupid and naive to think that Iran will stand by their agreement.

 

[Rolyo85]

How many times have they 'dropped in' since the agreement?

You'd be stupid and naive to think that Iran will stand by their agreement.

Why? Are they inherently evil?