Is Adult drinking milk normal ?

[Telstra]

According to evolution it is Not .

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc1E7z6rH6k&feature=related[/ame]

 

[Spiff]

So, our ancestors never drank milk as adults, but they did eat muffins?

 

[cityboy-stl]

Ewww. So what is the point supposed to be?

 

[Telstra]

well, the point is, is drinking milk normal ?

 

[Surgeon General]

Someone told me that the U.S. farms are so over-extended that our milk is around 75% a pus like liquid that is just milk flavored because it all goes into the same tanks.

 

[Nomenclature]

well, the point is, is drinking milk normal ?

It becomes normal if people keep doing it; People who farmed cows for generations are mutating to naturally produce lactase, which humans cannot naturally do. If it's part of your family's diet, they'll eventually evolve to be able to handle it.

Someone told me that the U.S. farms are so over-extended that our milk is around 75% a pus like liquid that is just milk flavored because it all goes into the same tanks.

That's probably true for commercial cows who're given a ton of antibiotics; when cows have an unnatural diet, are kept artificially pregnant, etc etc. . . they get sick and have a lot of infections. The white blood cells come out through their udders.

Grass-fed, pasture-raised cows are healthy and naturally don't even require antibiotics; so there's no infections and thus no pus.

 

[Críostóir]

Europeans* have a mutation that allows us to digest milk as adults. It's NOT "normal" in the sense that most humans do not have this gene.

Someone told me that the U.S. farms are so over-extended that our milk is around 75% a pus like liquid that is just milk flavored because it all goes into the same tanks.

I don't know where you got this, but it's crap. We have a huge milk surplus in the US right now, because of the recession: people don't buy as much, but the dairy farmers can't cut back production...you can't just stop milking a cow and put her in storage.

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* I mean the race, not the location.

 

[Telstra]

^ i'm too lazy to by fresh milk.
I use powdered milk for cocoa and coffee drink.

 

[metta]

cows milk:

naturally normal....no

culturally norm.....yes

 

[metta]

I'm lactose intolerant so I'm good.

have you ever tried organic raw milk. one study showed that about 90% of people that are lactose intolerant can drink organic raw milk.

http://organicpastures.com/faq.html

I don't drink milk myself...just don't like the taste or smell of it.

 

[Críostóir]

I'm lactose intolerant so I'm good.

I used to be. But after years of taking Lactaid tablets and eating yogurt, my lactose intolerance has mysteriously gone away.

have you ever tried organic raw milk. one study showed that about 90% of people that are lactose intolerant can drink organic raw milk.

But it's a very bad idea to drink raw milk. It's too dangerous. Pasteurized milk tastes horrible long before it's dangerous, but raw milk tastes just fine even when it's so contaminated that it will kill you right off.

I know it sounds like a cool, organic, green thing to drink raw milk, but it's less safe than eating raw pork. By a lot.

 

[Spiff]

I'm lost how it is any less normal than drinking cola? I don't think drinking cola contributed to humans successfully evolving for millions of years.

 

[LilBit]

Humans are the only species that, under normal conditions, drink the milk of another species, and we're also the only species that (also, under normal conditions) consumes milk into adulthood. Also, as has been pointed out, milk consumption is more prevalent in certain cultures than in others.

The funny thing is that lactose intolerance is considered abnormal in adult humans, when technically, it ought to be the norm.

 

[The_Reaper]

Normal, probably not, given that we don't drink milk from our species...

But it sure as hell is delicious.

 

[Nomenclature]

Europeans have a mutation that allows us to digest milk as adults.

And so do Americans who cattle farmed when they first immigrated here. After say. . .100-150+ years, that'd be enough time for families to have mutated a lactose tolerance.

have you ever tried organic raw milk. one study showed that about 90% of people that are lactose intolerant can drink organic raw milk.

http://organicpastures.com/faq.html

Hmm, not sure about that. I was allergic to it growing up, but I can now drink about 16 ounces at a time, as long as my stomach isn't empty before hand. Lactose-free is fine whenever, though.

But it's a very bad idea to drink raw milk. It's too dangerous. Pasteurized milk tastes horrible long before it's dangerous, but raw milk tastes just fine even when it's so contaminated that it will kill you right off.

Raw would have to be directly from the cow to you. It can't be stored or bought commercially.

That's horrible. How do you get enough calcium? Do you have to take a supplement or drink soymilk/hemp milk/almond milk/etc.?

I consume lactose-free milk myself. It may not be normal but I don't want to risk malnutrition(which I've already had and am recovering from) or osteoporosis. Calcium is essential and I'm not going to struggle to eat adequate amounts by eating foods like broccoli every single day. Ugh.

Milk isn't the only source of calcium. In fact, there are sources that are far better for calcium:


Let's start with a basic salad staple, like romaine lettuce. Using two cups as our salad base, we are starting off our salad with 40 milligrams of calcium. Adding one half-cup of Swiss chard leaves would bump us up another 25 milligrams, to 65 total. Now let's add 1/2 cup soybeans at 87 milligrams, and 1/3 kidney beans, at 40 milligrams, and we're up to 192 milligrams. Sprinkle on two tablespoons of sesame seeds and we have a salad that provides us with a whopping 277 milligrams of calcium.

[...]


In terms of total calcium, the salad we just make is about 33% higher in calcium content than a glass of 2% milk (which has about 300 milligrams of calcium). [...] while there are only 2 milligrams of vitamin C in a cup of milk, there is over 20 times that in the salad's romaine lettuce alone![/quote]


http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=78





But if you refuse to eat healthy, then you can also supplement with calcium and vitamin D.

 

[BRIOHAZARD]

I hate milk, it's so nasty. I drink rice milk instead.

I'm lactose intolerant so I'm good.

And I'm Brian, how you doin'?

 

[cityboy-stl]

Normal, probably not, given that we don't drink milk from our species...

But it sure as hell is delicious.

+1 Milk is absolutely totally delicious, especially good whole milk.

 

[Críostóir]

The funny thing is that lactose intolerance is considered abnormal in adult humans, when technically, it ought to be the norm.

It's abnormal for Caucasians (that is, people of European extraction). It's normal for everyone else. Some northern-European-descended people also have a mutation called the arterio-venous shunt, which I call "cryostigmata" from the circumstances where it occurs, and the way it feels when it does.

I had no idea that you can get your system to become tolerant. I would love that.

No guarantees; it depends on why you became lactose intolerant in the first place. I lost my lactose tolerance to tetracycline, so repopulating my innards with appropriate commensals was all it took. Eat yogurt (which has the lactobacilli in it; that's how it yoghs). You can also take acidopholus (not sure of the spelling) in a purer form.

Not guaranteed to work, of course, but worth a try.

Is organic milk raw milk?

They overlap but they're different things. Organic milk has been produced without hormones or drugs. Raw milk has not been pasteurized (a process that involves heating the milk to a very high temperature, thus "cooking" it).

Organic makes milk safer. Raw makes it more dangerous.

 

[racer2438]

we go thru 2 gal's a week in our house...

 

[Surgeon General]

Europeans* have a mutation that allows us to digest milk as adults. It's NOT "normal" in the sense that most humans do not have this gene.



I don't know where you got this, but it's crap. We have a huge milk surplus in the US right now, because of the recession: people don't buy as much, but the dairy farmers can't cut back production...you can't just stop milking a cow and put her in storage.

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* I mean the race, not the location.

Omfg....I said that I heard this from someone so that alone tells you it's an iffy source.

But I can definatly tell you that dairy farmers are really overexteded. I don't care about recessions, my uncle Ron runs a dairy farm. He is over-extended. He's milking more that is healthy for the cows and at Christmas last year he talked a little bit about it. He told me that the amount the goverment asks of him would kill his cows.