Is America the hope of the world?

[Kulindahr]

America is more of a hotspot that innovation gravitates to than one were it originates. America is important, but it tends to overstress its importance.

And while Obama was in office, the GOP in Congress did their very best to try to keep innovators from staying here.

Idiots.

 

[Kulindahr]

Because what counts is the force capable of restoring all that, or letting it crumble forever. Spain may have a more economically efficient and offering better care for people TODAY, but you can't count on it to remain so for the next twenty years, because it has been more a quirk in the history of the country, dependent of specific circumstances inside and outside the nation that allowed some inner forces to work... for a time.

Although I often wonder whether that is not exactly the case of the USA, only the its glory would span a couple of centuries, instead of decades, and then slowly start dragging and going down the drain of history.

From their record over the last eight years, the GOP is determined to let all the good of the U.S. crumble.

And a majority of citizens think things will be getting worse for them over the next twenty years.

 

[belamyi]

From their record over the last eight years, the GOP is determined to let all the good of the U.S. crumble.

We are counting on it

And a majority of citizens think things will be getting worse for them over the next twenty years.

"Hope" does not mean "guarantee": it is closer to "desperation"... being older, you should know that better or, precisely, you have started forgetting about that...

 

[frankfrank]

I sure fucking hope not.

DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING we have a winner!

 

[Zeno Lorea]

Although I often wonder whether that is not exactly the case of the USA, only the its glory would span a couple of centuries, instead of decades, and then slowly start dragging and going down the drain of history.

Yes it is, as it was for the UK before that. In the words of Rudyard Kipling:

"Far-called, our navies melt away;
On dune and headland sinks the fire:
Lo, all our pomp of yesterday
Is one with Nineveh and Tyre!
Judge of the Nations, spare us yet,
Lest we forget—lest we forget!"

(from Recessional, 1897)

 

[belamyi]

Yes it is, as it was for the UK before that. In the words of Rudyard Kipling:

"Far-called, our navies melt away;
On dune and headland sinks the fire:
Lo, all our pomp of yesterday
Is one with Nineveh and Tyre!
Judge of the Nations, spare us yet,
Lest we forget—lest we forget!"

(from Recessional, 1897)

We are pointing to different things: you are referring to the "alternance in power" (before the British, it was the French; before them, the Spaniards and the Turkish)... but I am relating the American more to the Ancient Roman Greek, what have been come to be known, since the XIXth century, as the "Byzantine": a people who derived their power from the translation of an old, spent force around 330 AD, but whose history was virtually that of a long decline, led by an increasing idleness and religious stiffness, ever since that original ancient world which was their origin disappeared completely, around 610 AD, barely resisting the world around them, until it surpassed them in technological ingenuity and political, military and social briskness.

 

[TheLoveableLoner]

Absolutely not.

 

[TheLoveableLoner]

No no no no no.

 

[belamyi]