is Amway still in Business ?

[Telstra]

What I still can't understand is how they can make over $7 billion.

because they are like religion.

How religion make their money, Amway make their money in similar way plus they got products to sell.

 

[belamy]

because they are like religion.

How religion make their money, Amway make their money in similar way plus they got products to sell.

Ok, so it's like using religion to make business, like the Vatican or the LDS, but the other way round: use business to build a religion; and in both cases the ultimate goal is big money and great power.

 

[Telstra]

Ok, so it's like using religion to make business, like the Vatican or the LDS, but the other way round: use business to build a religion; and in both cases the ultimate goal is big money and great power.

.... basically yes. Amway owner(s) make all the money.
Amway members make zero money and sometimes loosing money.

 

[seven_sins]

It is now Quixstar in the USA and still goes by AmWay in other countries. Over the last 6 months I've seen commercial for Quixstar on Dish network channels.

I think I read that they are phasing out the Quixstar name to go back to Amway. The Quixstar ads were replaced with Amway ads the last time I saw them on TV.

 

[cyclops35]

Some friends got me into selling Amway back in the mid 90's, we had a few customers but not enough that it helped us get anywhere. Went to one of the "BIG" meetings they held. (Cleveland) I believe was were we went. I must say some of those amway products were great. The laundry detergiant I think it was a 2l box for $15.00 lasted me more then a year. We lasted a little over 1yr and got out.

 

[Kulindahr]

I'm still with Quixtar, and I complained loudly when they went back to identifying with Amway, and more loudly when they sent me my IBO cards that say Amway.

People I could occasionally sell the things that really are good (the Quixtar management really did a good job of getting in new quality stuff) are now saying to take a hike, because they won't have anything to do with Amway.

My upline folks have always been frustrated with me because I honestly tell people which products are crap -- like the "meal replacement bars", which lack a number of essentials that you'd want in any meal, and have more calories in sugar than is healthy; I keep saying, If it's a meal replacement bar, I should be able to throw thirty of them in a backpack and go out on the trail for ten says with just those and a water filter, right? But you can't, which proves it's a snack bar.

But some of the products are fantastic, like the laundry detergent and dishwasher tablets, the stain spray for laundry, and their energy drink.

What gets me is that they expect me to buy $360 of their product each month "to replace the items you're already getting from the store". What do they assume that is? It goes like this:

sixty snack bars
sixty energy drinks
thirty "specialty drinks" (lattes, mochas, etc.)
thirty "fruit snacks"

and that doesn't even touch laundry soap, etc.

I said out loud at an "update meeting" that I didn't consume sixty snack bars in a year, had specialty drinks only on special occasions, and ate real fruit, not snacks -- and given what I'd still have to eat just to make up for the nutrition that isn't in all their supposedly healthy products, my food budget would jump by a factor of four, counting these things they thought I should be consuming... and that I thought the idea was to make money, not to spend more of what I don't have.

I wasn't popular.


But I still sell some, and I still do the annual fee so I can get products for myself at a discount.

 

[Telstra]

^ don't you think Amway meetings are cult like ?
clapping , singing ... etc.

 

[biguy732]

It is a giant pyramid scheme - and also watch out for Britt World Wide - same thing but with Quixstar products! Someone tried to get me suckered into Britt once.

 

[Telstra]

Skip Ross was fun though, wasn't he?

no idea who he is.

 

[Telstra]

yep, i didn't hear most of the tapes. Pretty boring after a while.
I couldn't remember if i bought them or someone give them to me.

 

[Kulindahr]

^ don't you think Amway meetings are cult like ?
clapping , singing ... etc.

Never been to one like that while they've been Quixtar. I hope it doesn't get like that.
I do get tired of the gushy enthusiasm when we have meetings with our diamond. He got all huffy when I talked about selling one of the products to bars: "I don't go to bars!"
I decided I wouldn't mention that I was thinking of gay bars.

 

[Kulindahr]

^ You obviously didn't get to hear all the tapes!

I listened to three of the tapes; my upline guy popped them in (CDs now, actually) while we were driving across the state.

We didn't finish any of them -- I guess he didn't enjoy me pointing out the fallacies (and some outright lies) and criticism of the basic notion that a customer also has to turn dealer just to afford many of the products.

In the whole Quixtar catalogue, I haven't found many products I can peddle in good conscience.

 

[Telstra]

i don't believe Amway products are better than high quality products you found in the supermarkets.

Hence a waste of time and money to be an Amway member.
If they offer free adult funs ... maybe.

 

[Kulindahr]

I think their laundry stuff kicks ass on anything else -- using the SA8 liquid, I get about 2/3 cost of a laundry load than with anything in the store.

Their spot remover is awesome, too.

And the energy drink they have is awesome -- it's actually good for you, while studies are starting to discover that the high-sugar, high-caffeine, system-jolting stuff on the shelves is actually harmful. I never believed in energy drinks till I tried theirs.

But their vitamins and most health stuff is a scam, and while I can save money per tissue and such on paper products, the boxes they come in are lower-grade, so the annoyance isn't often worth the savings.

Possibly the best part is the partner stores, where I can get things I would normally buy anyway at a slightly better price, and get a bonus check for doing it.

 

[Telstra]

I think their laundry stuff kicks ass on anything else -- using the SA8 liquid, I get about 2/3 cost of a laundry load than with anything in the store.

Their spot remover is awesome, too.

And the energy drink they have is awesome -- it's actually good for you, while studies are starting to discover that the high-sugar, high-caffeine, system-jolting stuff on the shelves is actually harmful. I never believed in energy drinks till I tried theirs.

But their vitamins and most health stuff is a scam, and while I can save money per tissue and such on paper products, the boxes they come in are lower-grade, so the annoyance isn't often worth the savings.

Possibly the best part is the partner stores, where I can get things I would normally buy anyway at a slightly better price, and get a bonus check for doing it.

so no other product outside Amway can match it ?

I don't think cleaning Industry worldwide is that dumb and let Amway have the sole right on the product.

 

[Kulindahr]

so no other product outside Amway can match it ?

I don't think cleaning Industry worldwide is that dumb and let Amway have the sole right on the product.

Um, when you have your own product, that's what it means -- that you have sole right to it.

As only Coca-Cola corporation has the right to Coke, so only Amway has the right to SA8.

 

[freshjock90]

Never been to one like that while they've been Quixtar. I hope it doesn't get like that.
I do get tired of the gushy enthusiasm when we have meetings with our diamond. He got all huffy when I talked about selling one of the products to bars: "I don't go to bars!"
I decided I wouldn't mention that I was thinking of gay bars.

I know this thread is nearly 5 years old but I have become increasingly disturb by my best friend's absorption into Amway. I haven't been to their big meetings (only the new member introductions) but his group mixes Amway and Christian conservatism. They mark their success with the blessings from God (thing I believe in) in order to motivate members. Religion also helps to build a stronger trust and bond between the new IBOs and their uppline . While he use to say that he supports me being gay, now he says I've just "lost my way" or "probable not really gay, just confused"'. While they profess to be very religious they all come off as extremely greedy. They will do anything to reach that 100k pay check; friendships and family be damned.

It sucks that this new business has forced him to distance himself from me, while I am one of his few remaining friends that still support him and show any interests in his progress.

He will go to meetings 3-5 nights a week. Every night/day he is making calls. His Amway boss "uppline guide" will call/text him at all hours of the night. He wont go out an socialize with his old friends, and he has to spend hundreds of dollars a month to meet his quota and please his Amway group leader/boss/cult leader/life-couch/spiritual guide/best friend/mentor .

Your group may be all about business, but this one is all about assimilation and dissociation.
Beware people, beware.

I will continue to be an available friend in case this falls apart and he needs support but I am internally pissed at his mentors for damaging what appeared to be a great friendship.

I needed to get his off my chest lol.

 

[PreTTy PeTe]

^omg you just described Alcoholics Anonymous

 

[rareboy]

I know this thread is nearly 5 years old but I have become increasingly disturb by my best friend's absorption into Amway. I haven't been to their big meetings (only the new member introductions) but his group mixes Amway and Christian conservatism. They mark their success with the blessings from God (thing I believe in) in order to motivate members. Religion also helps to build a stronger trust and bond between the new IBOs and their uppline . While he use to say that he supports me being gay, now he says I've just "lost my way" or "probable not really gay, just confused"'. While they profess to be very religious they all come off as extremely greedy. They will do anything to reach that 100k pay check; friendships and family be damned.

It sucks that this new business has forced him to distance himself from me, while I am one of his few remaining friends that still support him and show any interests in his progress.

He will go to meetings 3-5 nights a week. Every night/day he is making calls. His Amway boss "uppline guide" will call/text him at all hours of the night. He wont go out an socialize with his old friends, and he has to spend hundreds of dollars a month to meet his quota and please his Amway group leader/boss/cult leader/life-couch/spiritual guide/best friend/mentor .

Your group may be all about business, but this one is all about assimilation and dissociation.
Beware people, beware.

I will continue to be an available friend in case this falls apart and he needs support but I am internally pissed at his mentors for damaging what appeared to be a great friendship.

I needed to get his off my chest lol.

Run like hell until he's bored.

Move on and find another good friend. You don't want to get within 100 metres of Amway nutcases.

 

[cgymike]

Scamway! look up MLM survivors on google for all the info you need on these Ponzi schemes...