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Is David Grush delusional, or credible?

I clicked on your link, only to be told "This site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area".

David Grush isn't a name I'm familiar with.
 
/\ Google offers a YouTube video of some numbnuts by that name spilling the beans about government UFO coverups.

I'll pass.
 
First of all, News Nation has proven to be a Trump ally, so I'm instantly wary of such an article being released at the same time as Trump's criminal indictment. Today, their story about Trump has a subtitle quoting him as saying there is no case in which he'll drop out of the race. That's Fox Newsian. Forget about Trump's overt crimes and talk about his return.

Second, this "whistleblower" doesn't make sense. If you divulge classified information, you go to jail. Everything he alleges in that article is supposedly top secret. So, how could he be divulging it and how can News Nation have clearance to publish?

He spins a tale of interdimensional visitors, not aliens, but cohabitators in this space.

Without proof, I am not even intrigued. There have been people making unsupported accusations for decades.

This serves as a distraction from Trump's crimes as well as yet another conspiracy theory undercutting the federal government, unsubtlely giving the right wingers yet another reason to distrust and possibly not recognize it as a legitimate government.
 
Either this is potentially frightening, or it's just a lot of fluff.

Frightening because if the government had knowledge of extraterrestrials, the truth would be buried between layers and layers of brilliantly and purposefully convoluted bullshit and distraction. I don't think Grusch is delusional or credible. I'll bet he's not even real.

Fluff because every day I see more and more evidence that the world is turning into one big Florida.
 
If there were aliens, the CIA killed Kennedy, or any other hundreds of conspiracies Trump would have never been able to keep his mouth shut about it.
 
I believe that it is possible that there are aliens or something that we don't understand and lean toward believing in them (about 60%) while keeping an open mind (about 40%). If there are aliens, I don't believe every story about them is true, but don't know which stories to believe and which are false. I like to trust people and 60% believe him while keeping an open mind.
 
Consider this. The account repeatedly distances all these supposed craft and bodies the government is allegedly holding and secreting away, from being aliens. The allegation is that they are interdimensional, a fairy tale within a fairy tale. And by that, I don't mean extra-terrestrial life cannot exist, only that we have no direct evidence that it does, only endlessly opined math about why it must.

Buying into this paranoid theory of conspiracies within conspiracies, then it would seemingly contradict the entirety of U.S. military and space development. I work for a rocket fuel company. We wouldn't be spending the gazillions of dollars hurling metal into space if our real belief was that we need to develop technology to move interdimensionally. Our technology has not even developed a means to intercept asteroids that repeatedly obliterate life on Earth and terraform on top of existing schema that support extant species. Our exploitation of gravity and magnetism is barely advanced beyond the 1920's other than microcircuitry. Energy development is little progressed with any ability to store it, making alternative sources less likely until that is solved.

Our transportation modes have stagnated, other than an extremely limited use of maglev. In the air, we have made small breakthroughs in cloaking against radar, but cannot even overcome sonic booms in supersonic flight.

We have no stunning technology that does not have traceable origins in our own work. Microwave energy for cooking is one of the few innovations that was not foreseen a century ago, but we know its origin in the lab, and it didn't need a cover story.

So, after almost a century of having supposedly alien craft in hand and alien bodies in observation, we have no scientific insights into their supposed world or its materials or biology.

Disney spins better yarns. Isn't there some prattle about Prince Harry we can be engrossed in. Squirrel !!!
 
NotHardUp1 said:
Microwave energy for cooking is one of the few innovations that was not foreseen a century ago, but we know its origin in the lab, and it didn't need a cover story.
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Although, in 1940, the discovery of the resonant cavity magnetron was a top secret highly classified event.
 
pigface said:
Although, in 1940, the discovery of the resonant cavity magnetron was a top secret highly classified event.
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And understandable considering both the German race to win the war and the danger.
 
pigface said:
That is EXACTLY my best reason for not believing all the conspiracy theories.
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How could Trump have learned about it. He would have had to READ.

He can't even divine that injecting bleach is a bad idea.
 
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One of my objections to mainstream voices on the matter is the fact that they want to impose their own prejudices into the matter.

For example, Neil Degrasse Tyson once said that if an alien race traveled for light years to here and then crashed landed and died, they are stupid aliens and he doesn't want to talk to them. The audience laughed and all. But it is a common criticism of the story. They claim that if aliens exist and are here visiting us, they ought to be so advanced that crash-landing isn't a thing to them.

We do know that early European explorers ship-wrecked and drifted onto islands and whatnot. Does that mean that European explorers didn't exist? People have been sea-faring for thousands of years and ships still sink, even to this day.

Just FYI, I am not a believer in aliens and all that nonsense. Just saying that if we are going to criticize the conspiracy theories, let's be reasonable and not hold them to impossible standards. Reasonable standards are plenty to use against conspiracy theorists. We don't need to proclaim that aliens need to be immortal gods in order for them to exist.
 
Dominus said:
Just saying that if we are going to criticize the conspiracy theories, let's be reasonable and not hold them to impossible standards. Reasonable standards are plenty to use against conspiracy theorists. We don't need to proclaim that aliens need to be immortal gods in order for them to exist.
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Let's be reasonable and use our brains. We know that there are no advanced lifeforms in our solar system. That leaves the rest of the Milky Way Galaxy. Proxima Centauri is the nearest star to our Sun, and it is 40,208,000,000,000 kilometres away. (That's 40 trillion!) When we see light from Proxima Centauri, we see it after travelling 4.25 light years. One light year is the distance that light travels in 1 year, and that is about 9.46 km. Multiply that by 4.25.

9.46 x 4.25 = No Aliens Crashing On Earth
 
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