dpnice
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This thread is predicated on a fundamental premise that these acts of barbarism or pockets of extremism are directly created by being of the Islamic faith, and thus, if we do not wish to condone these acts we should regard Islam as intrinsically negative.
As you yourself pointed out, we could go back to plenty of historic precedent showing Christianity associated with equally abhorrent acts, and we could in fact do it for any religion-- including Buddhism, which for some reason people ignorant of Asian history seem to connotate as devoid of the kind of sectarian violence and faith-based torture and murder that we only talk about today with regards to Islam.
And we could equally find all kinds of tribal or historically embedded strife between people whose primary difference was ethnic, not religious at all, and find equally similar acts.
So I reject the fundamental premise, and the OP is utterly not interested in any actually credible or rational attempt to establish that premise other than continuing to link youtubes and pictures which support the preestablished leap of logic. You are now defending this leap as reasonable.
That is just mean as you are using that phrase to paint my differing opinion as despicable and therefore my point of view being heinous and unacceptable.
Of course you are right that we could take many other historical events to depict a similar scenario but the problem with Islam is that it is a present day problem that could and in many ways does affect our present lives. It is certainly going to prove a problem in Europe in the coming years due to our democratic system and the numbers of Muslims present; hopefully it will be a problem we will overcome and learn to adapt to the needs of everyone.
I do understand that you cannot support anyone who might have the temerity to find anything of interest in Pat's more than suspicious posts but I will stick to my opinion that other members can make their own minds up about what to think about the stories he links to whilst at the same time finding a certain value in being made aware of what is happen in a particular part of the world.

