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IS it bad to lead on a guy you love...

Actually Glex has been the most helpful and less hateful.

I see what he means, if in trying to find a girlfriend and i decide that my boyfriend is the one i want to spend my life with, then it'll happen. He's right, we change, our mindsets change. I wanted to be a firemen when I was 10, I never would now.

The problem with that is, if I try finding a girlfriend, wouldn't I be cheating on my boyfriend? I'd never cheat :/
 
Which is why I say stay the course. Not stay the course, but look for your future wife while you do so. If you love this guy - and I mean LOVE him, not think he's a great friend and enjoy the sex - then devote yourself to that relationship. If it's never gonna be more than that, you're gonna have to cut him free.

Lex
 
The problem with that is, if I try finding a girlfriend, wouldn't I be cheating on my boyfriend? I'd never cheat :/

In a word, yes. I imagine he would feel that way.

Your profile says you're only 18. I'm a junior in college and I'm just now beginning to think that I can make good decisions. I would say that you should wait until you've lived away from home a couple of years before you do anything drastic to rock the boat in your life. You'll be surprised how your perspectives change. You don't have to get married at 18; this isn't Bangladesh.
 
Why dont you go a fuck a girl instead of fucking me?

You love your BF but in the end you still want to dump him to marry a girl. In other words you are a confused bi boy using your current BF to get what you want and dont care about what he wants from you in the long run.

You cant be in love with this guy if all you eventually want to do is dump him for pussy, you are basically just using him for your own selfish greed because you havnt found a girl yet.

Confused is what you are if you think you can love a guy, but still want to ultimately dump him to marry a girl.

What our dear friend is trying to say is that it's very offensive that you would leave a man for a woman, just because she is a woman, choosing based on gender, not the person. It's when bi guys say things like this that makes a lot of us gay guys feel vulnerable and scared to date bi guys.
 
>>> you both deserve to be happy.

Op wants a woman and kids to be happy, then why is he dating guys?

having your BF dump you for a girl never makes a gay guy happy, why would anyone defend putting another gay man through that treatment?

To the OP, how exactly would you feel if you found and loved a nice girl and wanted to marry her, but then dumped you for a woman instead? You are basically asking about doing the same thing to a gay guy.
You got me there.









Maybe I should tell him my intentions like the first person who replied said.



I would just break up with him, but its way too hard seeing as I love him so much.
 
In a word, yes. I imagine he would feel that way.

Your profile says you're only 18. I'm a junior in college and I'm just now beginning to think that I can make good decisions. I would say that you should wait until you've lived away from home a couple of years before you do anything drastic to rock the boat in your life. You'll be surprised how your perspectives change. You don't have to get married at 18; this isn't Bangladesh.
No haha, i wasn't planning on getting married anytime soon. I still have four years of college to look forward to.

But thats the thing, right now i guess you could say that I know in the future I'll marry a women. I know it sounds way confusing but it almost puts me in a form of depression thinking of spending my life with man, which totally disorients me because i really do love my boyfriend.

Even if he was okay that in the end I'll leave him for a women, I'd feel guilty dating him knowing it WILL end.


this is all really hard
 
That's so shady.... why waste his boyfriends time? Life is to short to be strung along for nothing.

why is marriage always the be all end all? Why can't people just date just for the sake of enjoying eachother?
 
Why dont you go a fuck a girl instead of fucking me?

You love your BF but in the end you still want to dump him to marry a girl. In other words you are a confused bi boy using your current BF to get what you want and dont care about what he wants from you in the long run.

You cant be in love with this guy if all you eventually want to do is dump him for pussy, you are basically just using him for your own selfish greed because you havnt found a girl yet.

Confused is what you are if you think you can love a guy, but still want to ultimately dump him to marry a girl.
Thats not it at all. Do you honestly believe I'm dating a guy JUST BECAUSE I havn't found a girl yet? Are you kidding me, if I wanted to date a girl right now I would.

I met my boyfriend through another friend of mine and we both had the same interests which got us to talking more and more.
Later I found out he was gay and asked him out. And now we're still going strong. I fell in love him, not because he was a guy.

But the problem right now is I can't picture myself spending the rest of my life with a man, even though I'm in love with one right now.
Its upsetting to me, but I can't help the way I feel.
 
I would love for your BF who you love to dump you for a gay guy instead, you would then feel what your suggestions of dumping him to marry a girl make us feel.

You can tell him the truth about what you want, or you can be greedy and selfish by not telling him. A relationship is a two way commitment, it isnt just how you feel about your partner, but how they feel about you and what you want from the relationship.
If my boyfriend dumped me for a gay guy then that would mean he loved that guy more than he loved me.
If my boyfriend dumped me for a woman and told me that he just couldn't picture sharing a life with another man for the rest of his life then I'd understand a little bit more seeing as I'm in the same boat.
 
You need to learn to use your brain over your testicles.

Your testicles are telling you that you like this guy, your brain is saying 'but I want to marry a girl'.

You can have a relationship with the guy you are with, but you need to tell him clearly that you eventally want to marry a girl. You cant hide that shit from him and then in a few years time if you are still together turn around and say 'oh, by the way, Im off to marry a girl now and make babies, see ya'.

As long as you let him know that you want no long term commitment from him, and eventually want to marry a girl, then go ahead with the relationship. If he wants to keep you that is, but of course, your testicles fear losing him if you tell him this.
Whats with your obsession with sex?
My brain tells me I like him.
But my brain also tells me I'd rather be with a women in the end.

Even though it really is none of your buisness, me and my boyfriend don't even have sex that much. We only have sex when we have an all day date. Usually we just hang out and enjoy eachothers COMPANY.
 
But the problem right now is I can't picture myself spending the rest of my life with a man, even though I'm in love with one right now.

If you really feel that way, you shouldn't have let things get so serious in the first place. He was bound to be hurt, and probably you, too.

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Maybe you could try this. Imagine yourself and your boyfriend 50 years from now, all old and shriveled - still together. Think about what you would be doing this instant 50 years from now. Think about the cute things that he does that make you love him that he would still do then. Think about how it will feel to be in each others arms, those arms being a familiar place, like home, by then.

If thinking about that really doesn't make you happy, then you really shouldn't be with him.
 
If you really feel that way, you shouldn't have let things get so serious in the first place. He was bound to be hurt, and probably you, too.

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Maybe you could try this. Imagine yourself and your boyfriend 50 years from now, all old and shriveled - still together. Think about what you would be doing this instant 50 years from now. Think about the cute things that he does that make you love him that he would still do then. Think about how it will feel to be in each others arms, those arms being a familiar place, like home, by then.

If thinking about that really doesn't make you happy, then you really shouldn't be with him.
I already am hurt that i feel like this.
And hurting him will hurt me even more.
I'm so scared to say anything because i don't want to lose him right now. I wish i could tell myself that I'd be fine with him being by my side forever, but I just don't believe it. When I picture myself in the future, its always with a women. :(

I'm actually thinking about going to a therapist.
 
Maybe I just don't see the point of being in a relationship when you have already determined the outcome of it.
 
Here's the only thing I will tell you. If you truly are experiencing true love, then you should embrace it, cherish and protect it - because it's not like produce, you can't just go out and get some.

When you think it's time for you to start dating a woman to marry, you need to be 100% sure you love her more than you love him and you should tell her about your relationshihp with him. I grew up very religious and thought that I never loved guys, they were just my friends and it was just sex (realize you have more in the friends side). Long story short, I married a WONDERFUL woman, but after 5 years the "vision" wasn't enough. I realized, I truly loved a guy (different from my husband of 11 years and I realized I loved him when he broke it off with me and we were both married), but knew at that point I would fall for another guys and knew that I had taken 5 years of HER life. You are worried about taking 4 years from your buddy when your in your in your 20's, wait til you decide to start dating in your late 20's, add children to the mix, then you decide, I really loved my ex-bf OR you realize you can never have the kind of relationship with a woman that is life-long and sustaining - now you are in your early 30's - potentially with kids and the impact on their lives.

Please think about all the people you are affectig - my biggest regret is that I took 5 years from a great woman (we are very good friends now but it took a couple of years for her to loose her bitterness and we did not have kids - kids would have been devisive for her), but please don't underestimate what you are doing to OTHERS. You seem to think you have great coping skills but when you realize that being with a man is the more fulfilling - it leaves a lot of people very hurt and frankly - I have never gotten rid of some of the guilt.

Now for the "seeing yourself with a man". I was in the same boat and did all the things that I thought would make my reality be 2 kids, wife, picket fence, etc. However, as Lex says, things change and while you may not have a visual on it, you come to know the right thing for you. The other thing, is that you begin to see who you are and not what you think the world sees for you (or your parents). Don't live in fear of what your mother said, parents change, you change, the world changes - who knows your mother may be very accepting of the two grandchildren from her gay son and his partner - I think you may realize this someday too.

Good luck my friend, you sound like a very caring guy, please consider the feelings of the woman you get involved in this and please make sure she has a full understanding of this relationship you have now. If she still chooses to still be with you, then she accepts responsiblity for her actions.
 
I'm actually thinking about going to a therapist.

I actually think that's a really good idea. This is what therapy is for: to have someone to help you sort through your confusing emotions. It sounds to me like you have some mental blocks that you may be able to work through, so that you can avoid hurting your boyfriend, and love him and make him as happy as you'd like to be able to.
 
I cant believe no one has said this yet..kyle, you are only 18! Live your life man. I can relate to you with the whole bi thing but seriously, thinking about breaking up with your boyfriend because you dont know if you want to marry a guy? YOURE 18! You have no idea how much life can change by the time you are actually ready to settle down and start a family. My best advice would be to just enjoy your life and the man you love. You have plenty of time later to worry about this sort of thing.
 
Here's the only thing I will tell you. If you truly are experiencing true love, then you should embrace it, cherish and protect it - because it's not like produce, you can't just go out and get some.

When you think it's time for you to start dating a woman to marry, you need to be 100% sure you love her more than you love him and you should tell her about your relationshihp with him. I grew up very religious and thought that I never loved guys, they were just my friends and it was just sex (realize you have more in the friends side). Long story short, I married a WONDERFUL woman, but after 5 years the "vision" wasn't enough. I realized, I truly loved a guy (different from my husband of 11 years and I realized I loved him when he broke it off with me and we were both married), but knew at that point I would fall for another guys and knew that I had taken 5 years of HER life. You are worried about taking 4 years from your buddy when your in your in your 20's, wait til you decide to start dating in your late 20's, add children to the mix, then you decide, I really loved my ex-bf OR you realize you can never have the kind of relationship with a woman that is life-long and sustaining - now you are in your early 30's - potentially with kids and the impact on their lives.

Please think about all the people you are affectig - my biggest regret is that I took 5 years from a great woman (we are very good friends now but it took a couple of years for her to loose her bitterness and we did not have kids - kids would have been devisive for her), but please don't underestimate what you are doing to OTHERS. You seem to think you have great coping skills but when you realize that being with a man is the more fulfilling - it leaves a lot of people very hurt and frankly - I have never gotten rid of some of the guilt.

Now for the "seeing yourself with a man". I was in the same boat and did all the things that I thought would make my reality be 2 kids, wife, picket fence, etc. However, as Lex says, things change and while you may not have a visual on it, you come to know the right thing for you. The other thing, is that you begin to see who you are and not what you think the world sees for you (or your parents). Don't live in fear of what your mother said, parents change, you change, the world changes - who knows your mother may be very accepting of the two grandchildren from her gay son and his partner - I think you may realize this someday too.

Good luck my friend, you sound like a very caring guy, please consider the feelings of the woman you get involved in this and please make sure she has a full understanding of this relationship you have now. If she still chooses to still be with you, then she accepts responsiblity for her actions.
Thankyou so much.
This really helped, even though its not exactly what I want to hear.

I think I may tell him soon, I think I'd be hurting myself knowing I took a lot of time away from his life.
I don't think he'll think it was wasted though.
I know what we have isn't wasted time.


Wish me luck

edit: i guess you already did haha
 
Here's the only thing I will tell you. If you truly are experiencing true love, then you should embrace it, cherish and protect it - because it's not like produce, you can't just go out and get some.

Really, REALLY good advice.
 
I actually think that's a really good idea. This is what therapy is for: to have someone to help you sort through your confusing emotions. It sounds to me like you have some mental blocks that you may be able to work through, so that you can avoid hurting your boyfriend, and love him and make him as happy as you'd like to be able to.

I think I'll definitely go to a therapist before I end up telling him. My mom is friends with a therapist and she's really cool and I doubt she'd tell my mom the issues. I'm not really worried anymore either. I think I use my parents as an excuse to back up my reasons for wanting to be with a women.

With therapy I really do hope I can get rid of this mindset of seeing myself with a women. But If I can't, maybe I really just should be with a women, it seems like thats what my minds desire is.

Eitherway, if there was a way to make me all the way gay so I could love my boyfriend fully then I so would.
 
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