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Is it ever okay to out some one?

No I do not. I think this is a very personal matter and should be completely left up to the individual.
 
In most normal circumstances, outing somebody is not okay. If they are being hypocritical and having an actual effect on the community (such as a politician voting against all of the gay causes, calling gays disgusting, etc.), then fuck them, getting outed is what they deserve.

I'm not gonna be PC with my post. I'm sure somebody is gonna say "that's no way to win them over", but ya know what, if they are already gay, have been alive long enough to become an influential figure, and are still fucking over the community by that point, the chances of getting them on our side are very slim anyway.

The best course of action is to expose the hypocrisy to make sure that it doesn't continue. At the very least, in most cases the politicians who are voting against our rights are the same who would receive the most hell for being gay, and may lose some of their political influence for being outed.
 
Harke the Heretic said:
Yes. When they're some religious figure who denounces homosexuality and has gay sex on the side. Or when they're Yasser Arafat.
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I totally agree Brazen hypocrisy where a person is loudly putting down homosexuality while engaging homosexual behavior is disgusting. Such individuals do not deserve to have their privacy respected. If a person is simply privately gay. I do not think that they should be outed.
 
Typically outing someone is indicative of vicious behavor intended to hurt the target, therefore not a good thing when often times it will come back to haunt you.

I have outted people before as a "revenge" method & it backfired BADLY.

Luckily one of the individuals forgave me & we are good friends to this day & he is best friends with my niece. Funny thing is his parents STILL think he is straight! LOL
 
Yeah, when they are hurting other gay people with their closeted hate speech....

Larry Craig, Ted Haggard, Yassar Arafat,

On a day to day basis - if the guy at work or school is closeted and isn't really harming anybody gay that's his choice to be closeted... if he is the most homophobic guy in town they should expose he is sucking cock!

Even the Tom Cruises and John Travoltas should come out! Even if they're not antigay it'd be the positive thing for them to admit it.. cowards
 
No that is cruel. I know that I struggled with coming out and I didn't need someone telling everyone. (I came out aged 14 btw)

I don't like it when people try to expose the sexuality of celebrities, how would they like it if something they chose to keep private was told to the whole world? Oh, and all the "it is good for the community" is bollocks. A person should be aloud to be who they want, not who you want.

I have no respect for anyone who outs other people.
 
I believe in outing secretly gay anti-homosexual politicians, religious leaders, and self hating homophobes, beyond that, no.

I was outed in high school by a girl who I told my secret to in confidence; but the worst thing about it was, said girl was a lesbian herself. There were rumors spreading around about her sexuality and since we were close, people would ask me all the time if she was a lesbian or not.

I put my self on the line and defended her and did what I could to put the rumors to rest, for the sake of her privacy.

Little did I know, a couple months later, I found out from a mutual friend that she had been letting loose the fact I was gay to any one that would listen. I was extremely pissed off because I kept her secret for her while she blabbed to everyone about me.

Needless to say, everyone knew about the bitch by the next day. So, outing some one is not cool, unless the circumstances call for it.
 
Thynight said:
If you think there are times, when are they?
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Never. Outing someone is one of the most selfish acts in my mind. Gay people come out (or don't) when they are personally ready.

If someone intrusted you with this very personal secret, it is not your or anyone's place to expose that.

Peolple out other people for one and only one reason - to feel more accepted and better about themselves... (I am not reffering to closeted gay bashing politicians/public figures - that is something different in my mind).
 
Thynight said:
If you think there are times, when are they?
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I have never outed anyone, and I cannot think of any circumstance in which I would, off hand.

To those who feel justified in doing so in cases of hypocrisy (getting it on with guys, yet denigrating gays publicly), I still don't think that's an appropriate time. In fact, I think doing such a thing lacks both class and maturity.

Come to think of it, some of those whom I've lost respect for the fastest were those who played busy-body and outed people.
 
Look at Ted Haggard, everyone know's he's a piece of shit before his outing. But after his outing, he's still a piece of shit spouting the same fucking crap. Outing didn't work, it's only made one rabid dog, more famous as a rabid dog.

If you make a difference you have to do it so they get the message and actually "repent" to borrow their bible speak.
 
No to outing celebrities. I loathe Perez Hilton. And absolutely no to outing regular people. Yes! to outing mega-hypocritical politicians who VOTE against our civil rights. And yes to pompous douche bag preachers who ACTIVELY spread lies about us when they KNOW better. And get rich doing it. They lose the right to privacy when they want to have their cake and eat it too. They play dirty - they get it right back in the face. Like they say - no more Mr. Nice Gay.

I'm truly sorry for the wives and children that get hurt but maybe the examples of what happened to Ted Haggard and Larry Craig's families will shut some of these hypocrites up.
 
Eagle653 said:
I have never outed anyone, and I cannot think of any circumstance in which I would, off hand.

To those who feel justified in doing so in cases of hypocrisy (getting it on with guys, yet denigrating gays publicly), I still don't think that's an appropriate time. In fact, I think doing such a thing lacks both class and maturity.

Come to think of it, some of those whom I've lost respect for the fastest were those who played busy-body and outed people.
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I agree with you here. ..|

And using the "gay" tag as some sort of weapon and punishment makes "gay" seem like a bad thing. Which it isn't.
 
Icantresist said:
I'l ask u the same questions.

So, it's ok for you to know the guy is a liar and a hypocrite, but no one else should know? Even when he is working against the rest of us?


Just asking.
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"liar"? "hypocrite"? "working against the rest of us"?

How do you mean? There are indeed hypocritical closteted gays (Fred Phelps), but being a young closeted gay guy does not make one a liar or hypocrytical.
 
jav1231 said:
Hypocrisy is no reason to out someone. Coming out should always be a personal choice and there are often reasons for being closeted that many of us never think of beyond our public persona. Politicians make a juicy target, esp when they are closet-types. However, rarely are anyone's motives pure. Ultimately, you're outing them for pleasure and that's not good. In my case I'm not out to my family. Frankly, who I fuck just isn't their business. An attempt was made to "out" me to my sisters once but it was blown off (pardon the pun).
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Agree 100%. Point I was trying to make.
 
Icantresist said:
I don't think you are seeing what I see. I don't care if you are closeted, but if you are, then you damn well better not hate me for being gay and express that publicly.
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Me thinks you should reread the whole thread. You are busy debating yourself. ;)
 
NameTaken said:
In most normal circumstances, outing somebody is not okay. If they are being hypocritical and having an actual effect on the community (such as a politician voting against all of the gay causes, calling gays disgusting, etc.), then fuck them, getting outed is what they deserve.....
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I'm in total agreement.
 
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