Is it racist to be attracted to guys of a particular race?

[belamyi]

^ Or be attracted only to women?

 

[Kahaih]

Not to take anything away from what you are referring there, but this was about what bothers certain people in the US and in Europe concerning sex, genre and identity, not about what was going on elsewhere through history, or what equally bothers as much in the rest of the world.

Before we can discuss crossing any line, the line has to be identified, defined and thoroughly examined.

Definitions, along with their reasons, have to be understood and somewhat agreed upon.

Critical thinking is imperative.

 

[belamyi]

Before we can discuss crossing any line, the line has to be identified, defined and thoroughly examined.

Definitions, along with their reasons, have to be understood and somewhat agreed upon.

Critical thinking is imperative.

Are we talking the definition of the OP, or the definition and delimitation of the implications of the OP?

 

[Kahaih]

Are we talking the definition of the OP, or the definition and delimitation of the implications of the OP?

All the above if we wish to seriously discuss, and/or predict the consequences of crossing a line.

Or, maybe we should go full-on internet casual and simply tell the thread's author that racism is in the eye of the finger wagger so forget about it? I'm game.

 

[belamyi]

All the above if we wish to seriously discuss, and/or predict the consequences of crossing a line.

Or, maybe we should go full-on internet casual and simply tell the thread's author that racism is in the eye of the finger wagger so forget about it? I'm game.

First please do follow your own advice, and clarify what is it that you want to discuss exactly

 

[LilBit]

How reliable can the US Census Bureau's data be when their categories are (or were) so broad and when we live in an age when people seem able to self-identify as whatever they like?

Like I said, it's not reliable. The concept of race in this country has been muddier than the Mississippi for as long as the USA has existed.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Not to take anything away from the legacy of slavery in America, the importation of blacks wasn't some unique or singular oppression in the Old or New Worlds.

Native Americans took neighboring tribes as slaves, when they didn't slaughter them. Those in Alaska would usually instantly kill any of the tribes from the Northwest that ventured into their range. They had no tolerance for one another geographically, outside of trade.

And the colonies on the East Coast were not exactly resort towns. Those who didn't come fleeing religious persecution in the highly sectarian Europe, came in economic hopes of having an opportunity in a society less hide-bound than the feudal systems they left behind, with limited opportunities if you were in a guild or mastered a craft.

And then there were the prisoners sent to Georgia.

The poverty didn't end with the Colonial Period for many whites in America. There were plenty of poor white sharecroppers in the South, almost up to the time I was born, and the industrial north kept working waver after wave of immigrants to death in factories and stuffing them into slums as if they were yet in Paris or London.

And the Chinese who built the railroads were less than slaves, with no rights and worked to death like beasts of burden, and for the richest robber barons in the country.

Race was indeed used to oppress, but it's not like everyone else lived in a 1950's middle class Utopia. The 1% were still the 1%, and it took a long time to build up the Middle Class that we are so rapidly eliminating now.

My favorite novella, "How to avoid the point with non sequitors."


The "Other people were slaves too" is an argument that literally no one ever has made. I'm almost 40 and Ive never in my life heard "Black people were the only slaves." Unnless we're just assuming black people don't know any history outside the transatlantic slave trade-- which isn't possible cuz that'd be a deeply racist and insulting assumption.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Like I said, it's not reliable. The concept of race in this country has been muddier than the Mississippi for as long as the USA has existed.

Many wypipo really believe there's an actual science behind race and not that it simply began as an exclusive club/class system. I guess the prevailing narrative helps sustain their weird racial resentments and inflated sense of superiority.

 

[rareboy]

^ Pretty Much.

 

[belamyi]

Many wypipo really believe there's an actual science behind race and not that it simply began as an exclusive club/class system. I guess the prevailing narrative helps sustain their weird racial resentments and inflated sense of superiority.

The USA and the modern era is founded on the Faith on the superiority of the untanning people of the so-called Western World: they enlarged the sense of biological superiority of the aristocracy that propped pre-democratic societies to the whole population of the modern states, gentrifying (nominally) the whole mass and calling them "citizens", and turning upside down the sense of those who had to be mocked for not belonging to the right class.
So it meant the aristocracies were now certain nations, with their particular genetic pools... but...
When the power and the economies of those nations keep swelling and getting bigger and bigger, and accepting the new "inferiors" from other "inferior" nations, now the new decadent aristos, the magas, brexiteers, voxtrenkos etc. etc. etc. are the ones to feel threatened by the apocalypse of the new themselves who are not themselves.

 

[Latimer]

Academic issue for most of us, which is to say, "Who cares?" It's a preference, no offense intended and no offense should be taken.

 

[peeonme]

My "hot as fuck alarm" is likely to go off on body type, height, weight (or lack thereof) a smile, attitude or maybe just how horny I am (or was, it's been a while since the alarm rang). It has little to do with color or even gender (though male seems to be a preference most of the time). We are what we are.

 

[Nude_Dude]

Do you think it's racist if you go on a dating app and specify that you are interested in, say, Asian guys?

Generally not, but certainly posting "no Asians, fats or femmes" IS racist and/or discriminatory.
I like black dudes, but I wouldn't knock anyone back because they WEREN'T,

 

[unloadonme]

Generally not, but certainly posting "no Asians, fats or femmes" IS racist and/or discriminatory.
I like black dudes, but I wouldn't knock anyone back because they WEREN'T,

I don't disagree. It could also be considered ageist to say one is only interested in guys between 20 and 30 or whatever. That would certainly be the case if one were say advertising a job or a house to rent, but in the context of a dating site, isn't it reasonable to state any deal-breakers to save wasting everyone's time?

 

[rareboy]

I don't disagree. It could also be considered ageist to say one is only interested in guys between 20 and 30 or whatever. That would certainly be the case if one were say advertising a job or a house to rent, but in the context of a dating site, isn't it reasonable to state any deal-breakers to save wasting everyone's time?

You are right.

It is useful to see if someone is an exclusionary racist right up front.

Saves a lot of time.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Academic issue for most of us, which is to say, "Who cares?" It's a preference, no offense intended and no offense should be taken.

Shocking news: The guys on the winning side of a race war are like, "LOLZ wuz da big deal yo?"

Empathy is the actual antithesis to your culture and heritage, especially for "the others." It's weird to see you take every opportunity to pronounce declare and decree how much you don't care about race. Almost like you're overcompensating.

 

[belamyi]

Like... who cares about Trump?

The bad guys have won for decades and centuries many times before... heck, Trump already ruled before.

The worst part is that they are so blinded by comfort and more a childish confidence than actual overbearing despise: when certain national amusingly wonder why Spaniards or Russians are so gloomy, it's because, no matter how century-old their national history, they have always lived in a pre-pubescent and adolescent phase of national development, and even the dictatorships or great wars are considered just bouts of fever, not scarring events for the whole nation (always, obviously, scarring only some). It's not glorification of suffering, it's merely REAL LIFE.

^ They have never lived in a real "down" period who they didn't considered just a "phase" in their constant upward way... The MAGA etc. movement is precisely about that Zeitgeist, expressed by people who were used to feel (comfort, like kids) without any thinking.
It is a whole package: the fact that there is a thread about "race" as an issue shows that we are dealing with an intellectual foundation of the Western World that is taken for granted even by those who say they do not consider it an issue.
And you must approach it very composedly to be taken seriously... to be composedly dismissed as a mare intellectual exercise right away.

But. If it is about Trump or the SC rulings which, as I say, as part of the same package, but with the other side of the coin that you were happy to ignore.... barkbarkbarkbarkbark.

 

[pigface]

Generally not, but certainly posting "no Asians, fats or femmes" IS racist and/or discriminatory.

But why shouldn't you be discriminatory? It's a dating platform, not a job opportunities site.

 

[belamyi]

It can not be posted often enough in this thread...

For the same reason that any woman should be forced to yield or comply to a certain extent to 'manly man' approaches, any gay guy being hit is forced to open up to real gay sex or, at least 'dating'... and straight guys should open to wet fantasies to macho gay men.

 

[Nude_Dude]

But why shouldn't you be discriminatory? It's a dating platform, not a job opportunities site.

If you make a judgement or assessment on ANYONE - in ANY area, based on race - it's RACISM, pure and simple.
We are ALL racist - consciously, or unconsciously - and a behaviour we all need to try and keep in check, as best we can.
We can't just write it off, saying racism is unacceptable in any area, excluding dating.